Thailand tourism: 40 million will visit "for sure" next year and Chinese for free, minister

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Thailand tourism: 40 million will visit "for sure" next year and Chinese for free, minister

 

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Thailand's tourism minister Phiphat Ratchakitprakarn has said that targets will be met and 40 million tourists will visit the country next year. 

 

He said he is absolutely sure of that. 

 

His statements came after the influential Tourism Council of Thailand downgraded their forecast to under 40 million in recent reports. 

 

Phiphat also told Nation TV that the free Visa on Arrival (VoA) scheme that was extended to April 2020 may be made permanent.

 

This applies to about 20 nations but principally tourists visiting from China that makie up a large proportion of Thailand's tourist trade. 

 

 

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[darksidedog]

1 minute ago, webfact said:

Thailand tourism: 40 million will visit "for sure" next year

Given that market forces including the very strong Baht are discouraging people from coming, not to mention the accident and injury rate, I wonder what he will say if and when the number isn't hit. Most likely he will just do the normal thing and tell barefaced lies. Can't have tourism numbers going down now can we?

[Just1Voice]

And in other news, the police are going to actual start doing their jobs, and all forms of bribery will be punishable with mandatory prison sentences. Oh, and there will be no more flooding - Ever!

[holy cow cm]

7 minutes ago, webfact said:

Thailand tourism: 40 million will visit "for sure" next year and Chinese for free

That ain't workin' that's the way you do it ..... Money for nothin' and your Chinese for free

[worgeordie]

11 minutes ago, webfact said:

that targets will be met and 40 million tourists will visit the country next year. 

Tourism Council of Thailand downgraded their forecast to under 40 million in recent reports. 

So who do you believe ?, I will wait till T.A.T comes up with the true figures,as they always

tell the truth !

regards worgeordie

Edited September 27, 2019 by worgeordie
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[lust]

Good. The streets more feces and spit in them, the country needs to be much louder with abusive families hitting their children, people pushing their ways to the front of the lines, flags on poles leading the sheep around so they can feel like sophisticated travelers. 

[Yinn]

7 minutes ago, darksidedog said:

Given that market forces including the very strong Baht are discouraging people from coming, not to mention the accident and injury rate, I wonder what he will say if and when the number isn't hit.

Not get 40 million number this year. He admit. 

 

7 minutes ago, darksidedog said:

 

Most likely he will just do the normal thing and tell barefaced lies. Can't have tourism numbers going down now can we?

He admit. 

 

Lies? 

The tourist number go up and up. Is lie to say it not up. 

This year up again a little bit. Not 40 million but up. Some year go down a little bit. But look long term is up,up,up. 

 

You have other graph? Or just what you imagine? How you know?

 

[Yinn]

5 minutes ago, lust said:

Good. The streets more feces and spit in them, the country needs to be much louder with abusive families hitting their children, people pushing their ways to the front of the lines, flags on poles leading the sheep around so they can feel like sophisticated travelers. 

No, the backpacker tourism down.

[Yinn]

China come to Thailand the most.

Chinese spend the most baht per person.

 

 

Welcome to Thailand!

[madmitch]

4 minutes ago, Yinn said:

China come to Thailand the most.

Chinese spend the most baht per person.

 

 

Welcome to Thailand!

I'd love to know how these statistics were calculated. Europeans the lowest spenders? Hmmmm.

[Momofarang]

Really wonder what is so attractive for these people to come to Thailand? Besides the cheap sex there isn't much to speak of.

[BobBKK]

"Chinese for free' no racism there then

[Vacuum]

17 minutes ago, lust said:

Good. The streets more feces and spit in them, the country needs to be much louder with abusive families hitting their children, people pushing their ways to the front of the lines, flags on poles leading the sheep around so they can feel like sophisticated travelers. 

 

11 minutes ago, Yinn said:

No, the backpacker tourism down.

Backpackers don't do what lust said.

[Yinn]

6 minutes ago, madmitch said:

I'd love to know how these statistics were calculated. Europeans the lowest spenders? Hmmmm.

Generally speaking...

 

chinese go tour everyday, eat seafood, go shopping.

europe, sunbath on beach, pool, eat a sandwich.

 

How much Madmitch spend everyday?

[donnacha]

30 minutes ago, Yinn said:

China come to Thailand the most.

Chinese spend the most baht per person.

No, that is not what that chart says.

The Chinese spend the most baht per person per day, but Westerners tend to stay far longer, so, their total spend per vacation is higher.
 

Also, a substantial portion of what the Chinese spend goes straight back to China, as group tours tend to stick to Chinese-owned hotels, restaurants, fake temples, and shopping destinations.

It also does not include the significant amounts of money that Westerners, as more independent travelers, spend on things that are not captured by surveys of this type. That includes relationships, bars, and, yes, the sex industry. All that can add up to significantly more than all the types of spending that are captured.

These details are important if you want to understand why so many Thai businesses are reporting that their tourist customers have all but disappeared, while the government keeps proclaiming the highest tourism numbers of all time.

 

Edited September 27, 2019 by donnacha

[ratcatcher]

32 minutes ago, holy cow cm said:

That ain't workin' that's the way you do it ..... Money for nothin' and your Chinese for free

And I actually thought Thai tourism was in dire straits

[cyril sneer]

23 minutes ago, Yinn said:

China come to Thailand the most.

Chinese spend the most baht per person.

 

 

Welcome to Thailand!

do these figures include the sex industry?

[CharlieH]

You can make "statistics" say whatever you want them to say, a it's the source of those stastistics that matters most and speaks to the probability of truth.

[Yinn]

8 minutes ago, donnacha said:

No, that is not what that chart says.

The Chinese spend the most baht per person per day, but Westerners tend to stay far longer, so, their total spend per vacation is higher.
 

Also, a substantial of what the Chinese spend per day goes straight back to China, as group tours tend to stick to Chinese-owned hotels, restaurants, fake temples, and shopping destinations.

These details are important if you want to understand why so many Thai businesses are reporting that their tourist customers have all but disappeared, while the government keeps proclaiming the highest tourism numbers of all time.

China is 28% of TOTAL revenue.

is the MOST any country. Is true.

[yogi100]

2 minutes ago, BobBKK said:

"Chinese for free' no racism there then

Racism and Nationalism as we call it comes naturally in Asia and other parts of the world and is part of the prevailing culture. It's a concept most of us in the West have been brainwashed into considering as unacceptable.

 

Therefore Thais are naturally going to accept Orientals more readily than us. It's expected because they are of the same race.

 

But like Japan and other Asian countries they don't accept immigrants whatever race they may belong to.

[Yinn]

6 minutes ago, CharlieH said:

You can make "statistics" say whatever you want them to say, a it's the source of those stastistics that matters most and speaks to the probability of truth.

Darside dog or Wikipedia? 

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tourism_in_Thailand

 

Wikipedia have total number every country, year by year.

since 2006

Edited September 27, 2019 by Yinn

[Yinn]

4 minutes ago, yogi100 said:

Racism and Nationalism as we call it comes naturally in Asia and other parts of the world and is part of the prevailing culture. It's a concept most of us in the West have been brainwashed into considering as unacceptable.

 

Therefore Thais are naturally going to accept Orientals more readily than us. It's expected because they are of the same race.

 

But like Japan and other Asian countries they don't accept immigrants whatever race they may belong to.

Westerner ALREADY get free visa on arrival!!!

[bendejo]

What about the punters who come here for a few weeks for companionship and go through 6,000+ baht per day?  I doubt many of them are from China.

 

 

[PatOngo]

7 minutes ago, Yinn said:

Westerner ALREADY get free visa on arrival!!!

But if married to a Thai, have half Thai children, must to pay!

[Peterw42]

32 minutes ago, madmitch said:

I'd love to know how these statistics were calculated. Europeans the lowest spenders? Hmmmm.

The numbers would be very easy to calculate, number of tourist from a country divided by foreign exchange from that country.

 

 

[donnacha]

28 minutes ago, Yinn said:

China is 28% of TOTAL revenue.

No, again, it is very far from the total amount spent by tourists.

It is 28% of spending captured by this survey, which is necessarily going to be quite limited in what it captures.

Hotel spend, possibly some types of restaurants, organized tours and activities, and shopping that happens to getting recorded because the Chinese religiously apply to get back every penny of tax they can when leaving. Those stats are relatively easy for the survey creator to collect. What a Norwegian blows through on a wild night out in Pattaya before getting arrested is not so easy to collect but, even so, it will support several families in Isaan for many months.

Westerners also like to shop, we even tend to be a little less careful with our money. We rarely apply for a tax refunds when leaving Thailand because, frankly, we can't be arsed. In general, we've already foolishly blown so much money while partying that it makes no sense to worry about tax refunds etc.
 

 

28 minutes ago, Yinn said:

is the MOST any country. Is true.

You are making a common mistake. You are taking the results of a limited survey and presuming that they map to reality, that what you have just read is the actual truth.

There are a lot of Chinese, sure. They spend a lot of money on certain things, sure. The real question is why all this wonderful new spending is somehow not helping the many Thai small business owners who rely on tourism


 

Edited September 27, 2019 by donnacha

[cmsally]

Thailand would be stupid to focus on the Chinese market at the expense of others.

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/opinion/2019/09/09/commentary/japan-commentary/japan-take-note-chinese-tourism-strings-attached/#.XY2Eubgprkc

 

https://kathmandupost.com/national/2019/04/18/wechat-pay-and-alipay-are-illegal-officials-say-but-they-have-no-idea-how-to-control-it

 

 

[Vacuum]

4 minutes ago, yogi100 said:

they don't accept immigrants whatever race they may belong to.

Except for Chinese.

[cyril sneer]

24 minutes ago, yogi100 said:

Racism and Nationalism as we call it comes naturally in Asia and other parts of the world and is part of the prevailing culture. It's a concept most of us in the West have been brainwashed into considering as unacceptable.

excellent point, shouldn't be overlooked

[PatOngo]

In 2022 there will be 56,000,000 tourists and in 2023 there will be 63,000,000 tourists, please don't question how I know!