Climate Change: An unstoppable movement takes hold

[NanLaew]

17 minutes ago, edwinchester said:

https://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/

 

The vast majority would disagree with that 500.

The vast majority of what would disagree?

 

The science has been manipulated, distorted, made up and hyped up the ying-yang. If 500 scientists are willing to put their name to something, the faceless and nameless ones can carry on riding on Greta's bandwagon.

[brokenbone]

pah ! 500 scientists ?

[NanLaew]

1 hour ago, edwinchester said:

I've core samples can provide data going back thousands of years. Those from East Antarctica have provided climate info from up to 800,000 years ago.

And among other things, I've got a Macallan 1926 single malt.

[NCC1701A]

"Yes it is just like 'Invasion of the Body Snatchers'. You fall asleep and when you wake up you are one of us. Soon we will control everyone on your world."

 

 

[overherebc]

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[thaibeachlovers]

3 hours ago, rooster59 said:

The science is undeniable

Just keep repeating over and over and perhaps everyone will eventually believe that.

Climate change, the new religion of the masses.

[Curt1591]

1 hour ago, Tayaout said:

China is also the country developing and investing the most in green energy alternatives. They are the world factory. Developed country are indirectly relocating pollution to China. If they were to cut all emission you could not even type this post. 

China also has the most coal burning plants and plans for many many more.

[thaibeachlovers]

3 hours ago, rooster59 said:

If our world is to avoid the climate cliff, far more is needed to heed the call of science and cut greenhouse emissions by 45 per cent by 2030

Do tell us how that is going to happen when most people don't give a monkey's about any of this. Millions of new petrol powered cars are sold around the world yearly and no owners are going to give them up for electric till electric works as well as petrol and it doesn't cost them anything to change over.

Bird killing windmills that destroy the environment?

More taxes? Ah, that's the one the politicians like the most.

 

3 hours ago, rooster59 said:

limit temperature rise to 1.5 degrees by the end of the century

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There are far too many variables in play to be able to say that by doing "this" it will make "that" happen. 

The greatest danger facing us is that governments will be convinced to do something really stupid and kill us all off even sooner than we would be in the natural order of planetary evolution.

[thaibeachlovers]

2 hours ago, quandow said:

Air, too. We need to stop burning fossil fuels as soon as possible.

We can help that along by

not using our cars

never flying again

only using electricity from renewable sources, which means of course no use of electricity in LOS.

not using mobile phones which are highly polluting to make

reporting every neighbour burning rubbish

etc.

[Buba Ho Tep]

[donnacha]

 

[FarFlungFalang]

1 hour ago, overherebc said:

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I'm pretty sure I will die from environmental effects!

[overherebc]

6 minutes ago, FarFlungFalang said:

I'm pretty sure I will die from environmental effects!

Me too.

Oxygen is the killer. 500 scientists have released data that oxygen kills you but it seems it can take anything from 50 to 90ish years to take effect.

[FarFlungFalang]

10 minutes ago, overherebc said:

Me too.

Oxygen is the killer. 500 scientists have released data that oxygen kills you but it seems it can take anything from 50 to 90ish years to take effect.

I've also said that if you breath Oxygen you will die and you will also die if you don't breath Oxygen!I wonder how many of the 500 scientist have studied the environment and the affects humans are having on it?Or do they mostly just read someone else's stuff and say "yeah that sounds about right".That goes for both sides of the argument.

[Lacessit]

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Just keep repeating over and over and perhaps everyone will eventually believe that.

Climate change, the new religion of the masses.

Basic thermodynamics. The heat we generate is absorbed by the oceans. Before the Industrial Revolution, the contribution of humans to heat was infinitesimal. Weren't enough of us, no planes, cars or power stations. No air conditioners set at 18 C.

As the oceans warm, two things happen. Ice caps melt. Hurricanes/typhoons/cyclones intensify - the warmer the water, the higher the energy released and the higher the wind speed. Entropy doing its thing. If that's not climate change, I don't know what is.

Oceans also absorb carbon dioxide. They acidify, resulting in coral dieback. and disruption of food chains.

Science 101. However, masses of people persist with the delusion there is such a thing as a free lunch.

It's not religion. It's science. Tough luck if you don't like it.

[brokenbone]

3 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

 

As the oceans warm, two things happen. Ice caps melt. Hurricanes/typhoons/cyclones intensify - the warmer the water, the higher the energy released and the higher the wind speed. Entropy doing its thing. If that's not climate change, I don't know what is.

Oceans also absorb carbon dioxide. They acidify, resulting in coral dieback. and disruption of food chains.

Science 101. However, masses of people persist with the delusion there is such a thing as a free lunch.

1] the hurricanes etc are becoming milder since beginning of century

2] the oceans dont go acid

[overherebc]

8 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Basic thermodynamics. The heat we generate is absorbed by the oceans. Before the Industrial Revolution, the contribution of humans to heat was infinitesimal. Weren't enough of us, no planes, cars or power stations. No air conditioners set at 18 C.

As the oceans warm, two things happen. Ice caps melt. Hurricanes/typhoons/cyclones intensify - the warmer the water, the higher the energy released and the higher the wind speed. Entropy doing its thing. If that's not climate change, I don't know what is.

Oceans also absorb carbon dioxide. They acidify, resulting in coral dieback. and disruption of food chains.

Science 101. However, masses of people persist with the delusion there is such a thing as a free lunch.

Re the oceans getting more acidic, it seems that some sea life with shells are starting to lose shell thickness because of it.

Ocean temperatures increasing releases more water vapour into the atmosphere and as it's water vapour that carries all the energy ( dry air doesn't ) it causes lower atmosphere density that causes bigger areas of low pressure that results in higher wind speeds and on it goes.

[Lacessit]

16 minutes ago, brokenbone said:

1] the hurricanes etc are becoming milder since beginning of century

2] the oceans dont go acid

I guess I should throw my science qualifications into the trash basket, as you obviously know better.

[ylmiri]

5 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

Still waiting for her to declare herself a vegetarian lesbian ????

Who? Is it the little girl in this photo on the right? She looks cute, your daughter?

[ExpatOilWorker]

5 hours ago, edwinchester said:

I've core samples can provide data going back thousands of years. Those from East Antarctica have provided climate info from up to 800,000 years ago.

That is correct, but numerous times during those same 800,000 year, the world have been much warmer than is it today and your little core sample didn't melt during those warm periods, didn't it.

So guess what it will also not melt this time around.

[Nyezhov]

5 hours ago, edwinchester said:

The science is undeniable but people choose, for whatever reason, to ignore it and the consequences.

Our kids will have a <deleted>ty life and our grandkids even <deleted>tier.

Because its a hoax based on a fraud. 

 

I ask again, and never get an answer: what was the average temperature in all parts of the globe at the start of the industrial revolution? That should be a number on the first page of the Church of Climate Changes Bible. 

 

Based on history, your kids may have a ***ty life not from "climate change", but from the econazis, if they get their way and destroy human freedom and eventually, kill off the surplus. Just because the possible future is dystopian doesnt mean it wont happen.

 

Quite frankly, Id rather move off my beachfront condo because the water rose, than be told how to live my life by some hypocritical so called elite expert.

[canuckamuck]

The oceans can become less basic, but they cannot become acidic. Alarmists would have us believe that any noticeable change in the natural world is a result of human increase in the atmospheric CO2. The increase is a mere .0048% of atmospheric gases. Even though CO2 is a weak greenhouse gas, and a 10x stronger and much more prevalent greenhouse gas (.2% to 4%) water, fluctuates in its percentage continuously and is not blamed for any changes in the natural world. A humid day traps magnitudes more heat  than CO2 could in a year. And water vapor can reverse its heating effect by becoming liquid, which blocks heat from the sun. Warming creates humidity and humidity causes clouds, clouds block warming and cause rain. Water plus air pressure plus cold outer space control the temperature. All three are linked and balanced. Heating comes from the sun.

The climate record shows CO2 increase is driven by temperature increases. But it doesn't show the reverse. In the last 50 years we have seen significant CO2 increases without the corresponding rise in temperature. The world has been warming at a consistent pace for 10,000 years.  

 

[toast1]

Thaivisa news headlines are starting to look left wing.

Lots of anti-Trump, pro-global warming stuff.

Is an 18 year old Social Justice Warrior doing the editing ?

[Nyezhov]

4 minutes ago, canuckamuck said:

The oceans can become less basic, but they cannot become acidic. Alarmists would have us believe that any noticeable change in the natural world is a result of human increase in the atmospheric CO2, the increase is a mere .0048% of atmospheric gases. Even though CO2 is a weak greenhouse gas, and a 10x stronger and much more prevalent greenhouse gas (.2% to 4%) water, fluctuates in its percentage continuously and is not blamed for any changes in the natural world. A humid day traps magnitudes more heat  than CO2 could in a year. And water vapor can reverse its heating effect by becoming liquid, which blocks heat from the sun. Warming creates humidity and humidity causes clouds, clouds block warming and cause rain. Water plus plus air pressure plus cold outer space control the temperature. All three are linked and balanced. Heating comes from the sun.

The climate record shows CO2 increase is driven by temperature increases. But it doesn't show the reverse. In the last 50 years we have seen significant CO2 increases without the corresponding rise in temperature. The world has been warming at a consistent pace for 10,000 years.  

 

Dude you look scientific. Here:

 

WHAT WAS THE TEMPERATURE AT THE START OF THE INDUSTRIAL AGE? 

 

Why can no one ever answer that. And if you can, where does the data come from?

[Just Weird]

I wonder how many of the indignant, ignorant, hypocrites (and I'm not necessarily referring to Thaivisa posters) who pontificate about alleged significant climate change and humans' ability to change it ever actually do anything about it personally?   Apart from whinging about 7-11s, that is.

[toast1]

Please don't ask for facts.

Climate EndOfTheWorldIsm is an evangelical Socialist cause.

 

Of course the earth's temperature goes up and down all the time, as does CO2. But these people need to believe in something, then make us suffer for it.

 

[brokenbone]

12 minutes ago, Nyezhov said:

Dude you look scientific. Here:

 

WHAT WAS THE TEMPERATURE AT THE START OF THE INDUSTRIAL AGE? 

 

Why can no one ever answer that. And if you can, where does the data come from?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8455KEDitpU&feature=youtu.be

not surprisingly, ipcc decided to censor out data older then 1960,

for the purpose of giving the impression its linked to industry

 

[phantomfiddler]

Climate change is a crock, a phenomenon that has been going on for millions of years. Until we learn how to plug volcanoes and prevent forest fires, not to mention stop the sun coming up and shining every day, there is nothing that we can do about it. Pollution however is a different thing entirely, and until the powers that be set aside money to design and construct effective pollution control measures, we are on the downhill slippery slope ????

[Mitkof Island]

If we don,t stop breeding like rabbits none of this is going to matter. When i see some foreign families visiting Thailand with six or more kids. I always ask myself how many is enough?

[brokenbone]

1 minute ago, Mitkof Island said:

If we don,t stop breeding like rabbits none of this is going to matter. When i see some foreign families visiting Thailand with six or more kids. I always ask myself how many is enough?

why dont you ask yourself that when you see large thai families ?

its well known white people from west dont breed like rampant rabbit 2000,

but others do