Popular Post BestB Posted October 5, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 5, 2019 4 minutes ago, klauskunkel said: If I was in his shoes and going to kill myself, I would make sure to name the person who did make me change the verdict, not only in that statement but wherever I can think of... You forgot this is Thailand, his family are not immune from repercussions if he did drop names 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossco1 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 no its call losing face rather than admit he was wrong best option is to shot yourself that way not losing face 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukrules Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 1 hour ago, rkidlad said: And I wonder just how many times judges here have been told what the verdict should be. I would have to assume that it is every single time. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJRS1301 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Judges are not paid enough, and need second jobs to live comfortably? This is in a country which expects to be viewed and a first world country? Separation of judiciary and state, does that concept exist here? Evidence beyond reasonable doubt to secure a conviction? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yinn Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 4 hours ago, Just1Voice said: Now THAT is some heavy duty pressure on a judge by someone with substantial connections & influence. 4 hours ago, Mavideol said: did you mean some from Prayut's gang 555 3 hours ago, car720 said: We joke and laugh about it because T.I.T. but in reality the same type of gangsters that are running this guy are running every government in the world. What chance the little guy? 3 hours ago, phetpeter said: If true, he should state the name of the person who initiated he change the verdict, so the person can tell everybody why he has done it. Not just state 'someone' 1 hour ago, rkidlad said: And I wonder just how many times judges here have been told what the verdict should be. 1 hour ago, Rampant20 said: Maybe he thought if he says someone and kills himself that his family would be safe from reprisals if he was to mention names. Just a thought Thai news say.... He was pressure from another (older) judge. The old judge wrote him secret letter told him to change his decision. so he ask why? Why not use the system. Secret letter for what? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yinn Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 21 minutes ago, rossco1 said: no its call losing face rather than admit he was wrong best option is to shot yourself that way not losing face No. Wrong. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTgrizzly Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 2 hours ago, Tchooptip said: "despite the lack of sufficient evidence to convict any of them" The judge believed there was not enough evidence but at last three of them were condemned to the death penalty. One can understand that the judge was upset and more could feel guilty for not having had the courage or the strength to refuse such an injustice. My wife saw the story on TV it could be a minister who gave this order? But since the judge is not dead the story is far from finished But since the judge is not dead the story is far from finished He will be soon, someone else will do the job he failed to do 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJRS1301 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Yinn said: Thai news say.... He was pressure from another (older) judge. The old judge wrote him secret letter told him to change his decision. so he ask why? Why not use the system. Secret letter for what? Do you believe that a brother judge would risk threatening one of his own? Edited October 5, 2019 by RJRS1301 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yinn Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, RJRS1301 said: You know this how? In the thai news. The old judge want him to give death penalty three people this judge believe is innocent. Two more jail all the life. This judge is honest guy. https://www.khaosod.co.th/politics/news_2948532 Edited October 5, 2019 by Yinn 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggy Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 2 hours ago, Tchooptip said: "despite the lack of sufficient evidence to convict any of them" The judge believed there was not enough evidence but at last three of them were condemned to the death penalty. One can understand that the judge was upset and more could feel guilty for not having had the courage or the strength to refuse such an injustice. My wife saw the story on TV it could be a minister who gave this order? But since the judge is not dead the story is far from finished Lose face maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BestB Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 17 minutes ago, Yinn said: Thai news say.... He was pressure from another (older) judge. The old judge wrote him secret letter told him to change his decision. so he ask why? Why not use the system. Secret letter for what? It’s not only Thai news but clearly in English , just some people struggle to read or to comprehend ???? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickey rat Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 3 hours ago, phetpeter said: If true, he should state the name of the person who initiated he change the verdict, so the person can tell everybody why he has done it. Not just state 'someone' That would be the same as suicide but they would most likely go after the family as well. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidneyw Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Strange that "not guilty" verdicts were ordered to be changed to guilty verdicts. It is usually the other way around here. I guess someone has a major grudge against the defendants. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xr399 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 3 hours ago, steven100 said: One would assume someone connected very high up threatened him and he bowed to the pressure. Now that he didn't succeed in his attempt to end it all, will he be coming forward with naming the perpetrator. I won't hold my breath. Yes, if he really wants his death wish... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deecfc67 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 17 minutes ago, kidneyw said: Strange that "not guilty" verdicts were ordered to be changed to guilty verdicts. It is usually the other way around here. I guess someone has a major grudge against the defendants. Or, as in the infamous Koh Tao case with the two Burmese lads, it could be that by securing convictions against some "patsy's", the real guilty parties get off with whatever they are charged with (assuming that the many rumours about that case are correct of course). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Steve Vincent Posted October 5, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 5, 2019 I’ve always been skeptical regarding Thai laws and this proves my point in case,. If you’ve got the money and connections your walking away. Believe the actions from the judge was a cry for help - will lead to a retrial and a new judge will be called in to preside over the case. Don’t know the full story of the case so it would be folly of me to comment on those on trial. - It’s not what you know,it’s who you know ‘and this has never been more evident than in Thailand. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpudlian Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Seems like the temple would have been a better choice than the chest. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raccos21 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 All the government are run by Puppeteers. D6C9DDF2-B466-46D9-831C-74FB6F087701.jp2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meshborg Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 ???? In Thailan In Thailan no justice only coruption in Thailan???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Burma Bill Posted October 5, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 5, 2019 Quote:- "condemning three of them to death and sending another two to prison, despite the lack of sufficient evidence to convict any of them" How about the two Burmese lads on "death row"? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wazzupnow Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 4 hours ago, RBOP said: How did he get a gun into court? hey he is the judge, if i was a judge i would not leave home without one ever 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
friend of siam Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 4 hours ago, phetpeter said: If true, he should state the name of the person who initiated he change the verdict, so the person can tell everybody why he has done it. Not just state 'someone' if this someone is named...nothing will happen to the judge ..not immediately...but maybe to his mother and father...maybe first their bank accounts are freezed... later their house burns a gas bottle explosion unfortunately mom burn to death nobody speaks about the chains that tight her to the bedframe...later dad have a heart attack or a car accident..his son or daughter forced out of university because drugs found in car... later suddenly his bank account is empty and somebody claim his proberty...one by one slowly but steady thai style...or a quick car explosion in yala business as usual..terrorists you know... land of smiles LOS happiness easy life ... think twice ...this is gang land and the gangs are in power of the whole country... about this s somebody one thing is sure nothing will happen to him , sure not, he will receive a medal of honor of some kind 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhys Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 All so confusing and yet what else would he do? Sad, must have been very .... All the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevoromgh Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Would've been better if he shot the messenger 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToddinChonburi Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 What ever happened to the good old sword in the stomach. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KKr Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 it would be an interesting subject to study the occurrence of (attempted) suicides, across government employees relative to the general population. This time a judge (how come a "junior" judge can mete out death sentences? why does the prosecutor not just appeal if the suspects are in his opinion guilty and he can proof that ?), a senior official last month, and maybe more that did not make the news. It seems that in Official duty, a lot of people are under an enormous amount of stress. Any Sociologists or Psychologists on here who have looked into such statistics in other countries ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KKr Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, friend of siam said: ..not immediately... seems you are a subject specialist or a Biggles fan. Edited October 5, 2019 by KKr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katana Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Last sentence of the OP: Quote In the statement, the judge also urged lawmakers to amend the judicial charter to prevent senior judges from screening the verdicts of the judges in the court of first instance before they are delivered in court. Sounds like it was a senior judge who put pressure on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khaowong1 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 "the judge might be suffering from stress" "Ya think" LOL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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