Pattaya: Locals sell their houses after being driven away by trash

[dcnx]

1 minute ago, ChakaKhan said:

Rats rejoice with shots of sangsom!!!  Moving on up!!!!

Kind of looks like a good place to squat and eat some noodles.

[ChakaKhan]

Sidenote that is really bad..all they need is the rainy season to really get it funky.....cough

[dcnx]

47 minutes ago, Yinn said:

I blame the community. The people who live there. Up to them. 

Who live Pattaya?

Blame the local government. That’s where it ALL stems from.

 

Pattaya is a corrupt sewer / brothel for a reason.

[impulse]

6 minutes ago, dcnx said:

14 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

The problem with that is the way Thailand's government has been so diligent to make sure that foreigners have no voice and no power to do anything about it.  Even if they wanted to, there's not a thing they can do legally.  Keep in mind they can not have majority say when they are only allowed to own 49% of the projects.

They even have a saying about them always having the upper hand. It allows them to stay in control of everything. Because the moment they don’t have control, we’d all fix this <deleted> hole of a country and the prices would sky rocket. 

 

Be careful what you wish for.  The vast majority of tourists and foreigners buying property are Chinese.  If you think they're going to fix a trash problem, you should probably spend some time in China.  They will, however, drive up the price of real estate looking for a place to hide ill gotten cash.  Ask Vancouver and Oz residents...

 

[NCC1701A]

16 minutes ago, Tayaout said:

This is what trash collection look like in most "high density caucasian" countries. 

 

 

BTW I'm the only foreigner in my community and there is no trash collection in the village. All Thai throw and burn trash everywhere. 

and Yinn, please note how clean the street and sidewalks are. Not one piece of trash anywhere.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

1 hour ago, RotBenz8888 said:

Couldn't the residents join together, a few 100 Baht each, to solve the issue? Surely wouldn't be that difficult to find someone to remove the trash for cash. Where they eventually will deposit the garbage is another issue...

 

Most likely, drive it down the road a few KMs and then dump it in the jungle/forest somewhere when no one's looking...

[Fred white]

16 minutes ago, Tayaout said:

This is what trash collection look like in most "high density caucasian" countries. 

 

 

BTW I'm the only foreigner in my community and there is no trash collection in the village. All Thai throw and burn trash everywhere. 

Where I lived in the US we were out in the sticks but we still had trash pick up. here like you there is no trash collection so everyone burns. I can deal with the burning of the sugar cane fields but the smell of burning plastic is bad

[marqus12]

1 hour ago, Yinn said:

Pattaya have a the most caucasians per km in Thailand. Or not? 

Why is it the dirtiest? 

I suggest an inscription for a T-shirt.

"Nothing is washed so well as my own brain "

[Tayaout]

1 minute ago, Fred white said:

Where I lived in the US we were out in the sticks but we still had trash pick up. here like you there is no trash collection so everyone burns. I can deal with the burning of the sugar cane fields but the smell of burning plastic is bad

I have a very remote land in Canada with no building and there is still trash collection every week in the summer and twice a month in the winter. We only go camping and the local regulation force us to have a dry toilet and absorbent well for gray water. 

[AhFarangJa]

Bone idle, lazy, ignorant, self centered. That can just about sum up the residents. 4,000 people, a lot of whom appear to just dump waste on top of waste in the vain hope that someone else will clean it up. If you can see the rubbish is not collected how difficult can it be to take your bags a bit farther to a bin you know is regularly emptied, maybe on a soi nearer the town....

[Yinn]

42 minutes ago, sillyfool said:

you are really cherry picking on this one yinn. 

 

are you seriously going to post pics on here and talk about the garbage issue in this country ?  you are swimming upstream and are totally ignorant or a complete troll.

 

so what about the thai community ? why are they not working together ? up to them right ? 

 

points to you for such a jedi level troll post. others here have proposed good ideas and thoughts on the matter. 

 

you come in storming blaming the foreigner. a common tone in your posts. 

 

 

555 I know my post won’t be popular one..

but is true. Up to community to take care.

 

pattaya is famous for dirty. Is true. Maybe because the people who go to live there, foreign and thai people, not really communitytogether.

 

where I live, the community together. Is clean. If we have like that in photo, we fix it one day. Sure. 100%

 

[smedly]

2 hours ago, webfact said:

Some people have already sold up and moved out

did they take their trash with them 

 

I wonder how many refuge vehicles are operating across the city, it seems not enough 

[bendejo]

1 hour ago, Dmaxdan said:

 

I'm amazed they found any buyers! 

Maybe the buyers were the absentee trash collectors who drove down the prices.

 

 

[Yinn]

15 minutes ago, dcnx said:

Blame the local government. That’s where it ALL stems from.

 

Pattaya is a corrupt sewer / brothel for a reason.

I agree.

but not the orbortor can fix everything if the people so bad do like that.

[smedly]

1 hour ago, Yinn said:

I blame the community. The people who live there. Up to them. 

Who live Pattaya?

it is up to local authority to keep the city clean and they are doing a fine job - right ?

[smedly]

41 minutes ago, johng said:

Rubbish collection is the local government responsibility..its not the responsibility of tourists ,retirees and guests

(Caucasian or other) to provide basic services likes this.

 

Also remember "work"  requires a work permit for all non Thai people in Thailand ????

Yin is blowing it out his (deleted) as usual, I wonder how his home country deals with trash - the highest polluter on the planet 

[baansgr]

1 hour ago, Yinn said:

The Thai link says the “traditional” house owners moving away. The people live there before. Before the nice place.

But these houses built for foreigners and not locals and like this now. The new people not care. 

Terrible. 

Maybe building company will buy there land and build more new house.= more rubbish.

 

Pattaya have a the most caucasians per km in Thailand. Or not? 

Why is it the dirtiest? 

The community must work together. Up to them.

So its the foreigners fault for putting their rubbish out into bins and the tessabhan not collecting it....beggars believe the thinking of some posters but half expected by some

[Yinn]

4 minutes ago, smedly said:

it is up to local authority to keep the city clean and they are doing a fine job - right ?

No. Is up to the people. 

The “authority” must do everything? 

 

IMO. I understand not you opinion. Up to me, up to you.

[Fred white]

13 minutes ago, AhFarangJa said:

Bone idle, lazy, ignorant, self centered. That can just about sum up the residents. 4,000 people, a lot of whom appear to just dump waste on top of waste in the vain hope that someone else will clean it up. If you can see the rubbish is not collected how difficult can it be to take your bags a bit farther to a bin you know is regularly emptied, maybe on a soi nearer the town....

How many of those 4000 are kids

[marqus12]

13 minutes ago, Yinn said:

pattaya is famous for dirty. Is true. Maybe because the people who go to live there, foreign and thai people, not really communitytogether.

You live in Ranong so it's even easier,
You can blame the Burmese for the garbage !

[smedly]

26 minutes ago, NCC1701A said:

and Yinn, please note how clean the street and sidewalks are. Not one piece of trash anywhere.

he thinks it's been edited to look that way

 

very difficult to educate those that have lived with trash all their lives and can't comprehend "clean"

[PatOngo]

1 hour ago, Yinn said:

The Thai link says the “traditional” house owners moving away. The people live there before. Before the nice place.

But these houses built for foreigners and not locals and like this now. The new people not care. 

Terrible. 

Maybe building company will buy there land and build more new house.= more rubbish.

 

Pattaya have a the most caucasians per km in Thailand. Or not? 

Why is it the dirtiest? 

The community must work together. Up to them.

 

 

 

Yes, if they want to live like pigs, up to them, I don't live in Pattaya.

[Fred white]

3 minutes ago, Yinn said:

No. Is up to the people. 

The “authority” must do everything? 

 

IMO. I understand not you opinion. Up to me, up to you.

It's the people's responsibility to put their trash in the bin and put it by the road or wherever it's the responsibility of the govt or whoever is being contracted to pick up the trash

[ChipButty]

We just got the annual bill the other day 480 baht for twice a week collection which I will gladly pay to keep our moo baan clean 

[smedly]

18 minutes ago, Yinn said:

I agree.

but not the orbortor can fix everything if the people so bad do like that.

I see Thais and Chinese just throw trash at their feet, they have zero concept of clean, it's what they are brought up with - trash all around 

[poohy]

Seems we are fighting a losing battle with mr/s Yinn they are Thai

 

Thais just dont see litter its not on their radar that s why beaches, roads, fields and waste land is covered in litter!

I went to my local harbour in Klong wan today, there was a big wedding there yesterday, this morning you could not see the land for waste paper tissue and other rubbish , even in the countryside by me rubbish dumped .... Off course the standard answer from Thais is the dirty Burmese drop /dump it.

 

Like many things its an education thing BUT you would really imagine with this so called "Country pride Thailand is number one" thing they are indoctrinated into, they could harness it to do something about it, but probably no money in it

 

Maybe it will be working  in another generation in the cities, buthere in the sticks ....forget it!

[baansgr]

1 minute ago, smedly said:

I see Thais and Chinese just throw trash at their feet, they have zero concept of clean, it's what they are brought up with - trash all around 

Just look at Jomtien beach after a "Thai" holiday......rubbish everywhere, disgusting, uneducated morons that have no pride in their country or themselves

[smedly]

13 minutes ago, Yinn said:

No. Is up to the people. 

The “authority” must do everything? 

 

IMO. I understand not you opinion. Up to me, up to you.

wrong, it is the city authority responsibility to keep the city clean, why do you think it is so dirty - they are not doing their job, if left to the people what do you think is going to happen - oh wait 

[baansgr]

Suppose they could just do what the Thais do and burn it.....to supossedly keep mossies away 555

[billd766]

2 hours ago, ivor bigun said:

thats terrible ,our binmen come twice a week and take everything 

Ours come once a week and take everything, It costs me 30 baht a week and is well worth the price.

 

I sort out the empty glass bottle etc and IF the salvage guy comes around he buys them. If he doesn't then I put them out for the trash men and they can make a few baht on them.

Edited November 4, 2019 by billd766
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