snoop1130 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Iranians chant 'Death to America' to mark U.S. embassy seizure Iranian students attend an anti U.S. demonstration, marking the 40th anniversary of the U.S. embassy takeover, near the old U.S. embassy in Tehran, Iran November 4, 2019. Nazanin Tabatabaee/WANA (West Asia News Agency) via REUTERS DUBAI (Reuters) - Thousands of Iranians chanted "Death to America" near the old U.S. embassy on Monday, the 40th anniversary on the seizure of the mission, with the country's army chief comparing the United States with a poisonous scorpion intent on harming Iran. State television showed crowds packing the streets around the former mission, dubbed the "den of spies" after Iran's 1979 Islamic revolution. Marches and rallies were being held in some 1,000 communities across the country, state media said. Hardline Islamist students stormed the embassy soon after the fall of the U.S.-backed shah, and 52 Americans were held hostage there for 444 days. The two countries have been enemies ever since. "Our fight with America is over our independence, over not submitting to bullying, over values, beliefs and our religion," army chief Major General Abdolrahim Mousavi said in a speech at the rally outside the former embassy. "They (Americans) will continue their hostilities, like the proverbial poisonous scorpion whose nature it is to sting and cannot be stopped unless it is crushed," Mousavi said in remarks carried by state TV. On Sunday, Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei renewed a ban on talks with the United States, describing the two countries as implacable foes. "Those who believe that negotiations with the enemy will solve our problems are 100% wrong," he said. Meanwhile, Iran's parliament gave initial approval to a measure requiring schoolbooks to inform students about "America's crimes". Lawmakers also chanted "Death to America". Relations between the two countries have reached a crisis over the past year since U.S. President Donald Trump abandoned a 2015 pact between Iran and world powers under which it accepted curbs to its nuclear programme in return for lifting sanctions. The United States has reimposed sanctions aimed at halting all Iranian oil exports, saying it seeks to force it to negotiate to reach a wider deal. Khamenei has banned Iranian officials from holding talks unless the United States returns to the nuclear deal and lifts all sanctions. -- © Copyright Reuters 2019-11-04 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking Thailand news and visa info 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jingthing Posted November 4, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 4, 2019 That chant is really not very nice. I know the history and I get that there is substance behind their narrative but I don't think such chants are really helpful. 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post evadgib Posted November 4, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 4, 2019 Celebrating a return to the 7th century isn't something to crow about. 8 3 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tug Posted November 4, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 4, 2019 It’s to bad both country’s were starting (baby steps)to talk and and work together till Donald wrecked it bombing killing ect isent working so good it was sad to see those first steps on both sides destroyed by trump 7 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sanemax Posted November 4, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 4, 2019 11 minutes ago, Tug said: It’s to bad both country’s were starting (baby steps)to talk and and work together till Donald wrecked it bombing killing ect isent working so good it was sad to see those first steps on both sides destroyed by trump This is to do with events from 40 years ago , nothing to do with Trump 3 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Guitarzan Posted November 4, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 4, 2019 37 minutes ago, sanemax said: This is to do with events from 40 years ago , nothing to do with Trump But millennials weren’t born then — so it doesn’t count. 1 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RideJocky Posted November 4, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Tug said: It’s to bad both country’s were starting (baby steps)to talk and and work together till Donald wrecked it bombing killing ect isent working so good it was sad to see those first steps on both sides destroyed by trump yes, as long as you define “work together” as sending them money and allowing them to move ahead with their nuclear “defense” program and say nothing when they renege on their inspection agreement. Lefty should make the Iran “agreement” a big issue for 2020, that, open-boarders and firearm confiscation are all big winners. 5 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Alex Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 2 hours ago, Jingthing said: That chant is really not very nice. I know the history and I get that there is substance behind their narrative but I don't think such chants are really helpful. It certainly doesn't help them. I also think choosing the old embassy site makes the optics even worse. But it was just a small group of losers, so no big deal. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SteveK Posted November 4, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 4, 2019 What lovely people. 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Crazy Alex Posted November 4, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 4, 2019 2 hours ago, Guitarzan said: But millennials weren’t born then — so it doesn’t count. Millennials weren't born in 1776 either, but many still celebrate Independence Day in the US. And it counts. 3 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sanemax Posted November 4, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 4, 2019 26 minutes ago, Crazy Alex said: Millennials weren't born in 1776 either, but many still celebrate Independence Day in the US. And it counts. Yes, but these protests have nothing to do with Trump as they are protests against something that happened 40 years ago 7 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tug Posted November 4, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 4, 2019 3 hours ago, sanemax said: This is to do with events from 40 years ago , nothing to do with Trump The baby steps were referring to the nuclear deal that trump squandered now we are back on a war footing with Iran it has a lot to do with trump he squandered any peaceful steps towards improved relations between our country’s 4 1 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post riclag Posted November 4, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 4, 2019 Some people never change no matter how much money you give them 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rabas Posted November 4, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 4, 2019 (edited) 9 hours ago, Tug said: The baby steps were referring to the nuclear deal that trump squandered now we are back on a war footing with Iran it has a lot to do with trump he squandered any peaceful steps towards improved relations between our country’s During those baby steps, Iran made great strides developing new technology able to mass produce very high volumes of bomb grade material, within the framework. And the US paid them. Witness the November 2018 completion of a huge centrifuge factory that can build the equivalent of 360 new centrifuges every day. Oh, and yesterday's announcement of a revolutionary new centrifuge 50 times more powerful that their current ones. World class. Not sure what's hard to understand about 'bombs away'. And all the Mullahs had to do for a real peace accord was ditch all this equipment. But, oh well! Edited November 4, 2019 by rabas 3 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tug Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 55 minutes ago, rabas said: During those baby steps, Iran made great strides developing new technology able to mass produce very high volumes of bomb grade material, within the framework. And the US paid them. Witness the November 2018 completion of a huge centrifuge factory that can build the equivalent of 360 new centrifuges every day. Oh, and yesterday's announcement of a revolutionary new centrifuge 50 times more powerful that their current ones. World class. Not sure what's hard to understand about 'bombs away'. And all the Mullahs had to do for a real peace accord was ditch all this equipment. But, oh well! No not during only after Donald welched on the agreement not before they are now un encumbered by the agreement and can do as they please unfortunately and make no mistake I do not like or support their regime far from it but imo it was an epic blunder on donalds part th Welch on the agreement 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rabas Posted November 5, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 5, 2019 5 minutes ago, Tug said: No not during only after Donald welched on the agreement not before they are now un encumbered by the agreement and can do as they please unfortunately and make no mistake I do not like or support their regime far from it but imo it was an epic blunder on donalds part th Welch on the agreement No because all this technology takes years to develop. The factory was under development long before the announced withdrawal. Same with super centrifuges, years of research. Iran just makes publicity statements when it suits them. Iran is brilliant at playing the dual use technology card, has been for decades. I would agree with you 100% if this agreement had actually limited their long term nuclear capability, it didn't, it was a convince agreement for most parties especially China and Russia, EU got lots of business. For Iran, "OK, we won't flip the switch today, as long as we are happy". I repeat, all Iran had to do for a really good agreement was ditch the bomb material making equipment. Think about it. 3 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kamahele Posted November 5, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 5, 2019 14 hours ago, sanemax said: This is to do with events from 40 years ago , nothing to do with Trump It has everything to do with Trump who dumped the nuclear proliferation agreement and reinstated sanctions 4 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post quandow Posted November 5, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 5, 2019 I've worked with Iranians. They were decent people and were like everyone else. They wanted family, security, you know - human stuff. It's government fronts representing military arms sales that stoke these fires. Until we all see this for what it is and collectively demand it to stop, this planet will never be safe. 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantomfiddler Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 Shouldn,t they be in school ? No wonder they are all behind educationally ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex8912 Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 15 hours ago, Tug said: It’s to bad both country’s were starting (baby steps)to talk and and work together till Donald wrecked it bombing killing ect isent working so good it was sad to see those first steps on both sides destroyed by trump In 1979? 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex8912 Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 I couldn’t resist. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sujo Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 14 hours ago, RideJocky said: yes, as long as you define “work together” as sending them money and allowing them to move ahead with their nuclear “defense” program and say nothing when they renege on their inspection agreement. Lefty should make the Iran “agreement” a big issue for 2020, that, open-boarders and firearm confiscation are all big winners. In one post you make 3 comments about iran and all 3 ate false. You must be starting to catch up to trumps lie count. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sujo Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 1 hour ago, rabas said: No because all this technology takes years to develop. The factory was under development long before the announced withdrawal. Same with super centrifuges, years of research. Iran just makes publicity statements when it suits them. Iran is brilliant at playing the dual use technology card, has been for decades. I would agree with you 100% if this agreement had actually limited their long term nuclear capability, it didn't, it was a convince agreement for most parties especially China and Russia, EU got lots of business. For Iran, "OK, we won't flip the switch today, as long as we are happy". I repeat, all Iran had to do for a really good agreement was ditch the bomb material making equipment. Think about it. But instead they are now free to build it. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tug Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 37 minutes ago, alex8912 said: In 1979? Common Alex don’t be obtuse you know what I’m getting at this is not a good thing 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salerno Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 16 hours ago, sanemax said: This is to do with events from 40 years ago , nothing to do with Trump Only the naive or obtuse would post such <deleted>. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post billd766 Posted November 5, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 5, 2019 5 hours ago, rabas said: During those baby steps, Iran made great strides developing new technology able to mass produce very high volumes of bomb grade material, within the framework. And the US paid them. Witness the November 2018 completion of a huge centrifuge factory that can build the equivalent of 360 new centrifuges every day. Oh, and yesterday's announcement of a revolutionary new centrifuge 50 times more powerful that their current ones. World class. Not sure what's hard to understand about 'bombs away'. And all the Mullahs had to do for a real peace accord was ditch all this equipment. But, oh well! Oh well, who was checking and stopping the Israelis when they were building centrifuges and nuclear weapons? Surely the USA wasn't turning a blind eye at that time. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sunnyboy2018 Posted November 5, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 5, 2019 23 hours ago, Jingthing said: That chant is really not very nice. I know the history and I get that there is substance behind their narrative but I don't think such chants are really helpful. State sponsored hate but most of them want to live in the USA. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sunnyboy2018 Posted November 5, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 5, 2019 4 hours ago, rhyddid said: Iran has been too long abused by arrogant and warmaker US, US gave hate, well as karma its getting it all back , US blame yourself first before blame others ! Claptrap. Those demonstrators all want to live in the USA. They just shout infantile, hate slogans because they are terrified of the Mukhabarat. I lived in Iran during the golden years of freedom when the Shah was in power. Long Live The King of Kings who bought justice and equality to women, education for all and modernity to what is now a basket case country. 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sunnyboy2018 Posted November 5, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 5, 2019 5 hours ago, billd766 said: Oh well, who was checking and stopping the Israelis when they were building centrifuges and nuclear weapons? Surely the USA wasn't turning a blind eye at that time. Israel is a democracy not a mad dog Islamic fascist state. 2 1 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Isaan sailor Posted November 5, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 5, 2019 Obama’s religion Of peace—lovely people. 4 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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