Another post got me thinking?

 

How is it so many, 10,000's of Thai People can survive financially in my home state of Florida, USA, when many expats run off to Thailand because they cannot afford to live/retire in their own country and complain how high the cost is?

 

Expats move to Thailand, live in a one room flat, try to survive teaching English and basically don't have a pot to pee in?

 

I was at the Thai temple here Sunday, the amount of Thai's driving Merc's, BMW's and even Corvettes is amazing.

 

These are not young educated professional Thai's either.

 

People still wearing Thai clothes, speaking Thai loudly and acting uncivilized exactly like they did in Thailand.

 

Isn't it amazing?

 

Many of these folks are older.

 

You have to ask yourself how the Thai's are surviving financially in America with new cars, owning their OWN homes and businesses, etc. and there are expats living out their lives in a one room flat, rural farmhouse, no insurance, no savings to speak of, in Thailand.

 

Now comparing apples to apples, even Florida has it's own Isaan where it is dirt cheap to live if one had to.

 

Thai's are coming to America and financially have it all, while the majority of expats moving to Thailand are barely making it, some have financially trapped themselves, and even worse?

20 dollar pad Thai. 

Ingredient cost 1 dollar. 

 

Next ...

No argument , that the immigration system in the US is a lot more fair than in Thailand. But the US is a much different country than Thailand. It is a country of Immigrants, where thailand is not, It is a much wealthier country than Thailand. and a much bigger country than

You can not compare Apple pie with Some tom. 

Live 15 to a house, 4-5 to a room.

 

Six people will buy a house, sell in five years, three people buy two houses, six people buy six homes. Like that.

 

Eat Thai food which is free if they or someone in circle or family works in resty. Otherwise, cheap anyway.

 

Buy those cars on credit.

 

Asians are good savers. Often work hard.

 

Thais like Filipinos love to weave themselves into government jobs if they can. Not as good at it as the Pinoy but they try.

 

Overstaying visa.

 

Many don't get ahead honestly.

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The few that I know who emigrated came from well off families( California). Others came and started restaurants and have done well for themselves and unlike most Americans they tend to help their country people get established. Once established they join the ranks of financing everything which is why you see some Thai folks driving Benz, Corvettes and other luxury vehicles. It is very easy for people to find employment in the US (legal or illegal). Many will rent a home and live 5 or 6 or more to keep costs down. Used to see it all the time. 

 

As for the expats here, Not all are living on a shoe string or can't afford to live in the states. You tend to generalize too much. Many chose to move and live here for a host of reasons. 

You need to be successful and have money as a Thai to move to the US and immigration filter losers directly at the embassy.

 

You can be a poor American and live in Thailand. You can bribe the system if you don't meet visa requirements. 

 

The US has also more opportunities for foreigner to be successful vs Thailand. 

The answer is simple. They are there for a reason !!! and they work hard.

They are not , entitled, whining, winnies.

 

Immigrants in the USA have more legal opportunities than farang in Thailand.

Some people are more business like than others , some Thais are more business like than some Westerners and are therefore more successful .

  There are also many Thais in the USA who are not business like and who are working in menial jobs .

  Some people are more successful than others and its doesnt really matter where they come from .

  Did you believe that White people are supreme ?

10 hours ago, Number 6 said:

Live 15 to a house, 4-5 to a room.

 

Six people will buy a house, sell in five years, three people buy two houses, six people buy six homes. Like that.

 

Eat Thai food which is free if they or someone in circle or family works in resty. Otherwise, cheap anyway.

 

Buy those cars on credit.

 

Asians are good savers. Often work hard.

 

Thais like Filipinos love to weave themselves into government jobs if they can. Not as good at it as the Pinoy but they try.

 

Overstaying visa.

 

Many don't get ahead honestly.

Sorry we know many single families that live in giant houses by themselves.

It is not much of a mystery.  Thais in the US can work, we cannot.  Thais can own property in America, we cannot own property in Thailand, therefore they can rent and make money, where we are limited in money making opportunities in Thailand 

 

This is not restricted to Thais, look how the Koreans virtually took over the fresh grocery business in New York City, why, because they were open when the commuters went to work and were still open when they came home. Since the whole family worked they were able to expand and basically monopolize the market

 

In all my travels I never saw a visa line at a Soviet Embassy, but I saw one at every US Embassy 

1 hour ago, bwpage3 said:

Sorry we know many single families that live in giant houses by themselves.

Maybe they are:

 

1) From wealthy families

2) Are professionals and have professional jobs

3) Were born and bred there, 2nd, 3rd generation etc

4) Came over and worked their asses off

5) Are in debt and living a life they cannot afford

6) Married some dead beat yank in Thailand and then realized they had married a dead beat yank and <deleted> off for something better when they got there (Understandably)

7) I am sure many other legitimate reasons

 

You should not judge a book by its cover.

13 hours ago, bwpage3 said:

Thai's are coming to America and financially have it all, while the majority of expats moving to Thailand are barely making it, some have financially trapped themselves, and even worse?

I would imagine your sampling size is rather small, so not sure what to make of your conclusions.  It's much harder for a Thai to immigrate to America, but once they do, it's easier to become citizens.  I knew immigrant Thais whose kids were completely American....couldn't even speak Thai. 

 

America does not have a "retirement visa," so can't really compare this category of immigrants.  Largely apples and oranges.

I have a good idea how East Asian immigrants operate. I've had Cambodian and Vietnamese girlfriends in the US. Was plugged in to neighborhoods in So California, DC and Massachusetts. 

 

I've assisted a few dozen abroad with scholarships and university, academic guidance.

 

Very few come with anything. That was the 70-80s. Slim pickings nowadays. Low wage jobs in vast majority of states wages have gone nowhere.

 

Most wealthy Thai are quite content in Thailand. They have it far better than they could in US. Villas, servants, connections. Low taxes.

 

Many students that study abroad don't (want to) come back. Those students tend to do ok in the long run but usually fighting demons back in Thailand or themselves (gay, disfunctional family, poor, politically out of step post 2006).

 

I've affluent friends and relatives o don't recall anyone living near Thais. The Thai community in LA (N Hollywood). Not known for being especially ambitious honestly although it 8s a transient imiigrant community.

 

Thai people, or rich kids, young Thai females, sex workers (and their half breed offspring)?

How many normal 40 something male Thai expats are there? 

 

11 hours ago, smutcakes said:

Maybe they are:

 

1) From wealthy families

2) Are professionals and have professional jobs

3) Were born and bred there, 2nd, 3rd generation etc

4) Came over and worked their asses off

5) Are in debt and living a life they cannot afford

6) Married some dead beat yank in Thailand and then realized they had married a dead beat yank and <deleted> off for something better when they got there (Understandably)

7) I am sure many other legitimate reasons

 

You should not judge a book by its cover.

You didn't read very carefully.

 

Not from wealthy families

 

Older in their late 60s and 70s

 

Not professionals, many can barely speak a few words of English

 

Does debt matter, when the question was how did they get here in the first and how are they financially able to survive when many Americans are living in Thailand on nothing?

 

Aside of the few that did married, how did the rest legally get here and get established to the point they are financially surviving here better than most Americans are making due in Thailand?

24 minutes ago, bwpage3 said:

Older in their late 60s and 70s

Not professionals, many can barely speak a few words of English

Refugees from the Vietnam war era, what was that movie with Clint Eastwood? Oh yeah, Gran Torino.

Not exactly people that made it there on their own dime!

On 11/5/2019 at 7:12 AM, Jingthing said:

20 dollar pad Thai. 

Ingredient cost 1 dollar. 

 

Next ...

 

You forgot the main ingredient... ambition. You have to have a place of business and be willing to get off your ass to make Pad Thai. I see very few people on TV that actually look for a side hustle or anyway to improve their situation. Common complaints about the currency going south... buy something and sell it on eBay. 

 

Thais make it in the USA because they don't get handed an entitlement check every month (which doesn't outpace inflation) to sit around and post on TV.  Anybody can make it in the USA. 

10 minutes ago, Cryingdick said:

 

  I see very few people on TV that actually look for a side hustle or anyway to improve their situation.  

Everything would be  illegal earning money in Thailand and you would be earning a very meagre income even if you ignored the legalities 

1 minute ago, sanemax said:

Everything would be  illegal earning money in Thailand and you would be earning a very meagre income even if you ignored the legalities 

 

Yup there is always an excuse. 

9 minutes ago, Cryingdick said:

 

Yup there is always an excuse. 

Staying legal, not breaking the law and running risk of arrest and deportation is a reality rather than an excuse 

1 minute ago, sanemax said:

Staying legal, not breaking the law and running risk of arrest and deportation is a reality rather than an excuse 

 

Thais in America don't worry about that I guess. There are ways to make money and life habits that can help without being illegal. If not you have to wonder why somebody would willingly stay in such a hopeless situation.

Because Thai families care about each others. 

 

Just look at the amount of fools here paying their girlfriends, mils, brothers, sons a monthly salary. 

 

Do Farang pay any monthly allowance to his own family? 

 

Case closed! 

1 minute ago, Pravda said:

Because Thai families care about each others. 

 

Just look at the amount of fools here paying their girlfriends, mils, brothers, sons a monthly salary. 

 

Do Farang pay any monthly allowance to his own family? 

 

Case closed! 

 

I dare say many Thais can also pull it off because they have a sugar daddy that props their restaurant up. 

7 minutes ago, Cryingdick said:

 

Thais in America don't worry about that I guess. There are ways to make money and life habits that can help without being illegal. If not you have to wonder why somebody would willingly stay in such a hopeless situation.

The rich Thais in the USA can work and settle and live there legally , they can become Americans.

Could you list all the ways that older Americans living in Thailand could make extra money legally ?

(Selling on E-bay isnt too profitable nowadays)

On 11/5/2019 at 7:12 PM, Jingthing said:

20 dollar pad Thai. 

Ingredient cost 1 dollar. 

 

Next ...

and don't forget not paying taxes by collecting cash...

1 minute ago, sanemax said:

The rich Thais in the USA can work and settle and live there legally , they can become Americans.

Could you list all the ways that older Americans living in Thailand could make extra money legally ?

(Selling on E-bay isnt too profitable nowadays)

 

You can always invest. Cut back a little on your outgoings and invest it. I agree though one advantage Thais have is the rule of law and that they are sponsored to go to the USA. 

They luckeee, gained lot of merit in a past life!

11 minutes ago, Cryingdick said:

 

You can always invest. Cut back a little on your outgoings and invest it. I agree though one advantage Thais have is the rule of law and that they are sponsored to go to the USA. 

Which investment gaurantees a profitable return with no risk of losing money ?