Customers in Pattaya’s famous bars and nightclubs down a whopping 40%

[CNXexpat]

14 minutes ago, RedPill said:

Haha, I think you have opened the door for a few pictures to be posted ... unfortunately, I don't have any ????

 

555 No, that´s not the topic of this thread. And why don´t you have some of the hotties? ????

[kingofthemountain]

9 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Huh? Are you serious? How about the two year campaign Big Joke waged against foreigners? How about little Ouds continued campaign of hatred and ignorance? How about the administrations unwillingness to tackle public safety, traffic safety, air quality, scamming, corruption, visa policy, etc. I could go on for days. You must be baiting me. You cannot possibly be serious. 

And you forgot the ridiculous amount of taxes on the wine

[DannyCarlton]

9 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Huh? Are you serious? How about the two year campaign Big Joke waged against foreigners? How about little Ouds continued campaign of hatred and ignorance? How about the administrations unwillingness to tackle public safety, traffic safety, air quality, scamming, corruption, visa policy, etc. I could go on for days. You must be baiting me. You cannot possibly be serious. 

I don't remember Big Joke affecting 2 week tourists in any way.

Likewise with Big Oud.

Likewise with visa policy.

Public safety,scamming and corruption are slightly less of a problem than they used to be and they've always been there.

Air quality? Never heard a 2 week tourist complaining about air quality in Pattaya.

 

None of your gripes go any way to explaining the relatively sudden lack of tourists in Pattaya. Expats maybe but I'd mostly disagree with you even then.

 

And please don't mention the price of wine, it's not and never has been a consideration for 2 week tourists in Pattaya.

 

A close friend stays with me 3-4 times a year for 2-3 weeks at a time. He wouldn't recognise any of your "problems".

 

[kingofthemountain]

2 hours ago, DannyCarlton said:

They have risen year on year. So have the girls prices.

so have the weight and the age

 

and at the end  of the day you have an old fat lady overpriced

that's one of the problems

[kingofthemountain]

1 hour ago, Inn Between said:

So now through whatever efforts and forces, their wish has come true, and the depression in the hospitality industry won't really effect the rich who want a "cleaner" Thailand. It will only create a wider gap between the haves and the have-nots, and only the have-nots care, so Prayut and his friends are likely quite pleased by Pattaya's economic suffering.

Yes i totally agree with you 

and i am pretty sure it was the ''real'' project under all this mess 

i mean the junta want punish all these ''red'' people and get rid of them

in sending them back in their poverty and misery with no any hope

(Where they were before the Thaksins era) and get rid also from all these

farang used as a social and economic elevator for the poorest families in Issan

lucky enough to have a daughter in the ''business''

 

[Melbun]

20 hours ago, Fancyzancy said:

Any discounts on hotel rooms ? NO!!!

They should start there.

As well as the pretties shouldn't turn down older Farang.  Were the bread and butter!!!

OMG - even the pretties have their limits. If you are an old (or young) farang get into good shape before you go. Hit the gym and lose the pot belly & barge ass, brush up on good manners, shave, comb your hair, shower 2 X a day, wear antiperspirant, brush you teeth, don't have a breath that will scare even a female hippo away, don't swill the beer all night, don't dress in t-shirts, 3/4 shorts and flip flops. In short look good and you won't get rejected. If you insist that a lady accepts you just because you have money, look like an obese hippo, smell like hippo sh*t and dress like a slob with similar manners - Stay at home and wallow in the mud - you pig!!

Edited December 14, 2019 by Melbun

[Daveyh]

Warning signs have been ignored for far too long .......... now the "rot has set in" it's obvious that there's no turning back as the "loss of face" is so important here. It will continue with "immediate first aid" measures until they run out of "short term" quick fixes. Pattaya was a very profitable adult playground for Thailand & had been since the early days of the Vietnam war (1964 era) ................ it just sprung up from nowhere with very little investment. In fact, it was a "golden gift" which was the inherited basis of tourism here ......... everyone knew that Pattaya was the "city of fun". It was lively, exotic & adult entertainment at it's best. Now it's all doom & gloom, full of bored & angry people, both local & foreign ......... the fun is long gone. Most of us now have left or just stay home. Sadly the town now has the Chinese, Indian & Russian tourists who also have started to "dwindle" of late. It will not be long before all the neighboring countries will seriously benefit from Thailand killing the "golden goose". RIP Pattaya ............... I have so many fond memories of what "once was" ............ sad.

Edited December 14, 2019 by Daveyh

[jacko45k]

12 hours ago, possum1931 said:

My wife was as good looking as any p2p girl and still as good looking as some.

What is P2P, do you only pay half the going rate?

[Melbun]

1 hour ago, Daveyh said:

Warning signs have been ignored for far too long .......... now the "rot has set in" it's obvious that there's no turning back as the "loss of face" is so important here. It will continue with "immediate first aid" measures until they run out of "short term" quick fixes. Pattaya was a very profitable adult playground for Thailand & had been since the early days of the Vietnam war (1964 era) ................ it just sprung up from nowhere with very little investment. In fact, it was a "golden gift" which was the inherited basis of tourism here ......... everyone knew that Pattaya was the "city of fun". It was lively, exotic & adult entertainment at it's best. Now it's all doom & gloom, full of bored & angry people, both local & foreign ......... the fun is long gone. Most of us now have left or just stay home. Sadly the town now has the Chinese, Indian & Russian tourists who also have started to "dwindle" of late. It will not be long before all the neighboring countries will seriously benefit from Thailand killing the "golden goose". RIP Pattaya ............... I have so many fond memories of what "once was" ............ sad.

Oh Boo Hoo - you sound like you are about to slit your wrists. Go to BKK plenty of chicky babes there or go elsewhere. Patts is not he only place on earth. Most are missing the point. Maybe all the bars are going under because the girls are using technology to secure the next hansum man. And men have discovered freelancers, instead of precious overpriced pratts in bars - only an idiot would entertain paying outrageous costs there for the girls and barfines, lady drinks and expensive beer.

[ravip]

On 12/14/2019 at 5:42 AM, ThaiBunny said:

Not quite. If numbers are down by 40% you need to increase prices by 67% to get back to the same revenue - 40% of 100 = 60%. Divide the original 100 by 60% and you get ~ 1.67 

A maths genius!

[mikebell]

20 hours ago, possum1931 said:

Bet you have a thick wallet. ????

As well......

[mikebell]

23 hours ago, toofarnorth said:

Good Lord , and I thought I was the oldest on TV at 72.  How about another poll. ' What age bracket is one in innit '

77 isn't old.  I play table tennis four times a week & go to the gym the other three days.  I can't think of a time in my younger days when I was happier.

[GeorgeCross]

 

15 hours ago, Don Mega said:

15 hours ago, yogi100 said:

The complications arise when they want to spend more than 30 days in Thailand. Many do especially retirees who want to avoid our harsh winters.

if they are retired why don't they sort out the appropriate visa ?

 

WHAT? 

 

put 800K in a THAI bank or buy a useless 12 month insurance for a 4 month winter escape??

 

seriously?

 

 

[Peterbkk99]

This is the cumulated effect of always trying to get the maximum return for the minimum of effort. Greed, arrogance, laziness. Sooner or later there's a tipping point.

 

 

 

Edited December 15, 2019 by Peterbkk99

[Beggar]

17 hours ago, SteveK said:

There are remarkably few attractive young girls in the village where I live, I suspect many of them have been shipped off somewhere. My wife says some of them have gone to Bahrain, apparently the money they earn there is on a whole different level (like 20k a night if they are attractive). There are some really nice girls in the Tesco Lotus though.

I would be careful with these girls in the Tesco Lotus. Something must be wrong with them. 

[Ron jeremy]

On December 13, 2019 at 10:33 PM, Leaver said:

Sounds like now is the best time to buy a cheap bar.  ????????

Night wish group is looking for wise investors!

[Ron jeremy]

15 hours ago, CNXexpat said:

Then they go to the immigration office and make 30 days more. Or apply for a longer visa at their home embassies or consulates.

Btw. Thailand´s visa regulations are easier than the regulations of Vietnam. Europeans can stay in Thailand for 30 days, in Vietnam only 15 days without a special visa. 

I am currently applying for my multi entry Vietnam tourist visa.

ONLINE, fill out application forum, online, make payment, online, letter of invitation in emailed to me the next day, I show it upon entry.$115

multi entry tourist visa in Thailand,download forms, get a passport picture, go to bank, get a money order, go to local UPS store , special delivery , insured, envelope with my passport inside, return postage, wait over a week, drive back to UPS and pick it up. Well over $200

dont tell me this bs of things being easier, maybe for retirees???

but certainly not for a longer stay tourist.

 

Edited December 15, 2019 by Ron jeremy

[Leaver]

57 minutes ago, Ron jeremy said:

Night wish group is looking for wise investors!

Yes, they are looking for wise investors, but will take the unintelligent investors also.   ????

[Oziex1]

They need more bars and condos, that'll fix it.

[angy]

they are rising revenues of bars offering again the Shisa everywhere

[ericdiam]

Hello, I went last week to Nha Trang in Vietnam. That is the city where the Russians are now by thousands. They are owners of bars, restaurants, pharmacies, shops like 7/11, really you see them everywhere. More Russians than Vietnamese nearly

And yeah also lots lots of Chinese tourists.

Thailand and Pattaya its over, all much much too expensive, strong THB, still a army state, zero democracy, and then all the stricter rules from immigration, treating us like we are all criminals to be followed wherever we go.

[Cheesekraft]

down 40% from last year, which was also abysmal

[Bruce Aussie Chiang Mai]

On 12/14/2019 at 7:08 AM, xtof2 said:

Easy. 
Increase prices by 40% !
 

60% be better as 10% will be put of by increase.

????❤????????

[freethinker]

I was told I was not welcome anymore. That Thailand was not for me. That Thailand now catered to a higher class of tourist. That the young rich professional demographics had taken over.

Me being just a middle class bloke from the west is nothing but a bum and that my money was no good.

 

I listened and now spend my 1 million bath a year travel allowance somewhere else. 

[yogi100]

8 hours ago, Don Mega said:

Yes, seriously.

 

If you are not willing to meet the requirements then don't.....up to you, but don't come whinging about it.

He is not whinging he is making a valid point as he sees it.

 

You're the only whinger.

[Banana7]

Thailand wanted Pattaya to become a family resort town. As it becomes one, families don't spend money in go-go bars, beer bars, small mom and pop restaurants. Also they don't stay in one area for a long time. So it should come as no surprise that these establishments have less patrons.

 

Also, the Bank of Thailand restricting outflows of Thai baht will continue the appreciation of Baht against most other currencies, making Thailand very expensive!

 

[elliss]

On 12/14/2019 at 7:41 AM, RichardColeman said:

Maybe avoiding the growing Russian bars in Walking streets as they can see Russian girls at home !

 

      Those Russian girls ,  are good bodyguards , they look the part ..

 

 

Edited December 15, 2019 by elliss

[Traubert]

On 12/14/2019 at 7:54 AM, bristolgeoff said:

holloween was quiet and it has continued it seems  with tourist numbers down

Halloween is not an Asian holiday.

[Traubert]

12 hours ago, mikebell said:

77 isn't old.  I play table tennis four times a week & go to the gym the other three days.  I can't think of a time in my younger days when I was happier.

Ah, physically fit, mentally f***ed.

 

Age gets to you one way or another

[thaibeachlovers]

On 12/14/2019 at 1:19 PM, colinneil said:

Clearly scaremongering by bar owners, T.A.T. are saying tourist numbers up.

So now tourists to Thailand are only coming for the pristine beaches.????????????????

You forgot the temples.

 

Speaking as one that visited Pattaya many times, lived there, loved there, loved the place, it's become such a <deleted><deleted> that I don't miss it at all. Would I make the effort to go back- probably not.

Multiply me by thousands and easily explained.

Who is to blame. The authorities are. Their obsession with trying to turn a dump with a stinking beach and poisonous sea into the Riviera of SEA has resulted in no rich tourists and not enough mongers.