ASEAN NOW Sales Posted January 28, 2020 Posted January 28, 2020 Cost of Living in Thailand This post is an excerpt of a longer article. Thailand has been a popular destination for those looking to move overseas for many years and for a variety of reasons. Not only is the Land of Smiles famous for its friendly welcome, but the weather is great, the food is fantastic, the culture is delightful and, perhaps most importantly, prices for most of your day-to-day essentials are consistently lower than they are in places like the US and Europe. But how much lower? It’s hard to plan your budget for a life in Thailand without a clear idea of how much things cost. It’s not a simple calculation, either - some things are a fraction of the price they would be in the west while others can be more expensive. And that’s before you’ve factored in the differences from one province of Thailand to another. To help you make those calculations and plan your future in the Land of Smiles, we’ve prepared a simple guide to the cost of living in Thailand. How much does an apartment cost in Thailand? The basic needs of life generally consist of food, shelter and clothing. We will start with shelter. As will become a trend throughout this guide, you will find that there is a lot of variation available in this category. The prices can vary depending first on which city or area of Thailand you want to live in and then on exactly where within that area you want to live and then in what kind of accommodation you want within that area of that city. For example, the same money that could pay for a small mansion out in the countryside may only afford a small studio apartment in the centre of Bangkok. Other factors can also radically impact the price you will end up paying. For example, a property with no air conditioning, no kitchen and limited furniture will be significantly cheaper than one with a range of modern conveniences. As a further note, those modern conveniences add to the overall cost since regularly running the air-conditioning, even in a small apartment, will probably give you a monthly electricity bill measured in four figures. Finally, the age of the property also has an impact, particularly since Thailand’s humid climate is quite harsh on building materials and decorations. This being the case, we will use average figures. Just bear in mind that there is a degree of flexibility available, if you shop around and are willing to trade convenience for affordability. You may also be able to reduce the cost by renting a small house or larger apartment and sharing the rental fee with others. Bangkok: 1-bedroom apartment in city centre = around 20,000 baht per month 1-bedroom apartment outside city centre = around 10,000 baht 2-bedroom townhouse in city centre = around 35,000 baht 2-bedroom townhouse outside city centre = around 15,000 baht per month Pattaya: 1-bedroom apartment in city centre = around 16,000 baht per month 1-bedroom apartment outside city centre = around 9,000 baht 2-bedroom townhouse in city centre = around 18,000 baht 2-bedroom townhouse outside city centre = around 15,000 baht per month Phuket: 1-bedroom apartment in city centre = around 13,000 baht per month 1-bedroom apartment outside city centre = around 9,000 baht 2-bedroom townhouse in city centre = around 35,000 baht 2-bedroom townhouse outside city centre = around 50,000 baht per month Chiang Mai: 1-bedroom apartment in city centre = around 12,000 baht per month 1-bedroom apartment outside city centre = around 8,000 baht 2-bedroom townhouse in city centre = around 30,000 baht 2-bedroom townhouse outside city centre = around 20,000 baht per month It’s worth noting that foreign nationals cannot own land in Thailand. You can own a condo, assuming that at least 51 per cent of the properties in the building are owned by Thais. How much does it cost to eat in Thailand? The next of our basic needs for life in Thailand, the cost of eating also comes with quite a lot of variety. If you are happy with eating local food (which, with Thai food being famously tasty, is not such an unattractive prospect) then your monthly costs will be quite low. However, if you want to eat just as you did in your country of origin, you might find your cost of living significantly increasing. The reason for this is that agriculture in Thailand is a significant part of the nation’s economy. Nearly half of the workforce is employed in helping maintain Thailand’s place among the world’s largest exporters of rice and seafood, with coconuts, soybeans, sugarcane and tapioca also among the top exports. To help protect this valuable part of the economy, there are heavy import taxes on foodstuffs from overseas (along with almost everything else from overseas). In order to give you as complete an idea of the cost of living in Thailand, we will provide three metrics - the cost per person each of a meal at a small local restaurant and of a meal at a more luxurious restaurant as well as the cost of a local beer to wash it all down. As a general rule, “luxurious restaurant” in Thailand usually translates to one specialising in foreign cuisines, though there are some exceptional Thai restaurants around. Bangkok: Local restaurant: around 60 baht Luxurious restaurant: around around 800 baht Beer: around 90 baht Pattaya: Local restaurant: around 100 baht Luxurious restaurant: around 900 baht Beer: around 80 baht Phuket: Local restaurant: around 120 baht Luxurious restaurant: around 600 baht Beer: around 100 baht Chiang Mai: Local restaurant: around 50 baht Luxurious restaurant: around 550 baht Beer: around 60 baht How much does a visa for Thailand cost? Your visa is arguably the most essential expense when calculating the cost of living in Thailand, since you can’t stay in the country long without one. However, the exact cost you will incur largely depends on your circumstances. If you get a job, your company will usually pay for your visa (though some English teachers working for low-end schools have found themselves having to deal with the cost themselves). On the other hand, if you plan to live out your retirement in Thailand, the cost works out somewhat differently. It’s a complicated subject, and one that needs its own article to explain. You could arguably live in Thailand on a tourist visa, which costs only 1,900 baht for a single-entry visa or 3,800 baht for multiple-entry. However, you would need to leave the country and get a new visa every two months (a process known as “doing a visa run”). The Thai government takes a dim view to people living in their country on tourist visas and are making moves to clamp down on this, including limiting the number of times people can leave and then immediately re-enter the country. Add the fact that Immigration officers have the right to deny you entry to the country even if you do have a valid tourist visa and building a life in this way is extremely risky. This post is an excerpt of a longer article from DeeMoney, Thailand’s payment provider. Exchange and send money to 14 countries, register via our app, website or in store. DeeMoney serves as a hybrid solution that’s similar to both Transferwise and Western Union, yet distinguishable from both. Whilst TransferWise offers only digital transfers, and WesternUnion mainly cash transfers, DeeMoney is Thailand’s only service to provide both means of transferring money.
Popular Post BritManToo Posted January 28, 2020 Popular Post Posted January 28, 2020 13 minutes ago, ThaivisaSales said: Chiang Mai: 1-bedroom apartment in city centre = around 12,000 baht per month 1-bedroom apartment outside city centre = around 8,000 baht 2-bedroom townhouse in city centre = around 30,000 baht 2-bedroom townhouse outside city centre = around 20,000 baht per month Hundreds of nice apartments in the centre of Chiang Mai for 5,000bht/month + utils. I'm living in a 3 bedroom house outside the city centre for 10,000bht/month, again hundreds to choose from. Where are you getting your housing prices from? Are they all as wildly wrong as the CM prices? 6 2
Popular Post mstevens Posted January 28, 2020 Popular Post Posted January 28, 2020 If you're willing to lead a lifestyle like a local which might mean pretty basic accommodation, not own a vehicle and eat in some modest outlets, you can live for not a lot of money in Thailand. If you wish to live a similar lifestyle in Thailand as you do at home with a property built to Western standards, your own vehicle, eat similar food to home, then it might cost around the same as it would at home, or possibly even more than it would in your own country. I think the great thing about Thailand is that there is a lifestyle for all budgets. If you have a small amount of money / low local salary / small pension you can still have a semblance of a life. And if you're wealthy / on a high income then you can live high on the hog. It's up to you! 7
Popular Post nickmondo Posted January 28, 2020 Popular Post Posted January 28, 2020 last time i was in Spain i did a price comparison. Thailand rents, fuel, electric, water, cheaper Eating in nice restaurants, about the same price Supermarkets, Spain cheaper Spain does not offer the choice of cheap eating joints as in Thailand however. Toiletries, Spain much cheaper, by a long way. All in all, I did a comprehensive comparison, and Spain worked out cheaper, except for the items listed in sentence 2 above. Standard of living, healthy climate, pollution levels, driving abilities, etc......Spain wins by a landslide. 11 1
YT3k72Em Posted January 28, 2020 Posted January 28, 2020 Think the International school prices in the original article should be per year, not per month. 1
joni08 Posted January 28, 2020 Posted January 28, 2020 8 hours ago, nickmondo said: last time i was in Spain i did a price comparison. Thailand rents, fuel, electric, water, cheaper Eating in nice restaurants, about the same price Supermarkets, Spain cheaper Spain does not offer the choice of cheap eating joints as in Thailand however. Toiletries, Spain much cheaper, by a long way. All in all, I did a comprehensive comparison, and Spain worked out cheaper, except for the items listed in sentence 2 above. Standard of living, healthy climate, pollution levels, driving abilities, etc......Spain wins by a landslide. Portugal same. And if you dont go to Lisbon or Porto still can find attractive rentals (cheap ones i mean). I compared my life in Leiria (center of Portugal) vs Sathorn/Bang Sue bkk and Chiang Mai (Thailand) and at the end get the same cost. Thailand cheaper for rental but much smaller condos/houses. Portugal have a lot of supermarket brands cheap food and everything else and probably with better quality. Portugal is more expensive: Transportation (public and private) Pets Rentals (but they re bigger in average) Restaurants (but in my opinion better food and not so much expensive, worth it) Im from there and i dont like live there but is a great place to live ???? (safe, good food, weather ok part of the year, cheap for travel around europe) I paid for elite visa here (so +500k for 5years cost of living) probably at portugal non of you need to worry so much about visa as here in thailand. (Have easy business visa and passive income/retired visa - D7 visa) 2
White Christmas13 Posted January 28, 2020 Posted January 28, 2020 What does a luxurious restaurant mean? I have been to many European restaurants in Pattaya (I can't name them here ) I paid 189 baht for a 2 course meal. Yes but if Thai people go to the Hilton they will pay the same, what a lot of nonsense.
StefanBBK Posted January 29, 2020 Posted January 29, 2020 16 hours ago, YT3k72Em said: Think the International school prices in the original article should be per year, not per month. Definitely not per month, but per year. Anyway also these vary so widely that any average ought to be taken carefully.
Thailand Noobie Posted January 29, 2020 Posted January 29, 2020 Where did you get food prices? Local thai restaurants local foods 60-80thb depends what you eat.... Creamy curry soups with pork or chicken and rice around 120thb
madmen Posted January 31, 2020 Posted January 31, 2020 On 1/28/2020 at 10:31 AM, BritManToo said: Hundreds of nice apartments in the centre of Chiang Mai for 5,000bht/month + utils. I'm living in a 3 bedroom house outside the city centre for 10,000bht/month, again hundreds to choose from. Where are you getting your housing prices from? Are they all as wildly wrong as the CM prices? Complete nonsense. Firstly you live in the jungle and that's not what they mean by outside the city center I would love to see a link to these lovely 1 bedroom condos for 5k in city center.. Over to you 2
rabang Posted January 31, 2020 Posted January 31, 2020 In the end I spend roughly the same as back home. There are many differences in my lifestyle in different places but by and large it's pretty simple and comparable in both. Pros and cons to each but Thailand is not a great way to save money if that was what I would be looking for. 1
DaRoadrunner Posted January 31, 2020 Posted January 31, 2020 On 1/28/2020 at 10:31 AM, BritManToo said: I'm living in a 3 bedroom house outside the city centre for 10,000bht/month, again hundreds to choose from. Show us photos of this 3 bed house, the Roadrunners would move in tomorrow at that price, if only it was not so polluted in CM...... Er, just how far outside the city are you? Like, will I need a machete to get to the front door up the jungle? 1 1
Popular Post BritManToo Posted February 1, 2020 Popular Post Posted February 1, 2020 4 hours ago, DaRoadrunner said: Show us photos of this 3 bed house, the Roadrunners would move in tomorrow at that price, if only it was not so polluted in CM...... Er, just how far outside the city are you? Like, will I need a machete to get to the front door up the jungle? Try this 3 bed house at Hang Dong, 7k/month. (https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2626690480908532/) 5
Popular Post sirineou Posted February 1, 2020 Popular Post Posted February 1, 2020 We have being having this conversation for the past decade and the answer is always the same The only things less expensive in Thailand are wages and most things dependant on Thai wages. all other things are the same or more expensive than the west and often of lower quality. I don't disagree that one can live for less in Thailand but only because we are settling for inferior products , services. and protections. 5 2 2
TheFishman1 Posted February 1, 2020 Posted February 1, 2020 I live in a newer 3 bedroom three bedroom house nice furniture about 20 minutes outside the city the rent is 18,000 a month that includes free internet and tv
Popular Post merlen10002 Posted February 1, 2020 Popular Post Posted February 1, 2020 The house price in this post is nuts, I lived in Bangkok for three years in a Condo at Sukhumvit Rd Phar Khanong Soi 64/1 on the 6 floor two bed room two bath room air con fully furnished pool on the second floor, 5 minute walk to Tops . 10,000 BHT per month. could walk to On Nut easy. Live in Pattaya in a town house 4 years old two bed room air con, western kitchen off Sukhumvit Rd Soi 15 , 25 minutes drive to Big C Pattaya Klang 7,500 BHT a month very nice place, Lived in a three bed room two Storey two bath room air con house at Nakluea Soi 16 north Pattaya, 10,000 BHT per month. great area very quite no barking dogs the people clean the Soi almost every day, Now live in two storey three bed room three bath room house air con very private no noise very quite area, 13,000 BHT a month. I post a pic of the house I now live. I must live in a different Thailand 3 3
Popular Post beavenlen Posted February 1, 2020 Popular Post Posted February 1, 2020 not very much research gone into this topic. seems to have concentrated on most popular farang settlement areas,and does not give an overal picture of Thailandas a whole. you can live comfortly in most of Thailand for very much less than the uppercrust prices quoted,even in some major cities and i quote Ubon Ratchathani as one of those cities. so Please when writing an article that may be of use to others planning maybe their retirement,do the research and do not misinform interested parties. i might add that i have lived in Ubon ,now live in the sticks Quite happily and better off than i would have been in uk on a state pension. 2 1
Popular Post NCC1701A Posted February 1, 2020 Popular Post Posted February 1, 2020 don't forget the cost of labor is low in Thailand. I have two maids and that would cost a fortune in the USA. Cosplay outfits are 250-300 baht. I just got for my new girlfriend a Chinese Girl new year mini skirt outfit and a pleated micro mini skirt and white school girl blouse for next to nothing. Shoes are dirt cheap also. 1 3
faraday Posted February 1, 2020 Posted February 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, NCC1701A said: don't forget the cost of labor is low in Thailand. I have two maids and that would cost a fortune in the USA. Cosplay outfits are 250-300 baht. I just got for my new girlfriend a Chinese Girl new year mini skirt outfit and a pleated micro mini skirt and white school girl blouse for next to nothing. Shoes are dirt cheap also. I just don't believe you. ???? Proof is required. ???? 2
lanng khao Posted February 1, 2020 Posted February 1, 2020 11 minutes ago, NCC1701A said: don't forget the cost of labor is low in Thailand. I have two maids and that would cost a fortune in the USA. Cosplay outfits are 250-300 baht. I just got for my new girlfriend a Chinese Girl new year mini skirt outfit and a pleated micro mini skirt and white school girl blouse for next to nothing. Shoes are dirt cheap Make sure the shoes are soft leather though, don't want them digging into your shoulders do we...????
Don Mega Posted February 1, 2020 Posted February 1, 2020 43 minutes ago, merlen10002 said: Live in Pattaya in a town house 4 years old two bed room air con, western kitchen off Sukhumvit Rd Soi 15 , 25 minutes drive to Big C Pattaya Klang 7,500 BHT a month very nice place, Is that down near Siri Anan tyre shop ?.... thats closer to Laem Chabang than Pattaya !!
topt Posted February 1, 2020 Posted February 1, 2020 40 minutes ago, Don Mega said: Is that down near Siri Anan tyre shop ?.... thats closer to Laem Chabang than Pattaya !! Agreed. Anything 25 minutes drive to Pattaya Klang to me is outside Pattaya. 1 hour ago, merlen10002 said: Now live in two storey three bed room three bath room house air con very private no noise very quite area, 13,000 BHT a month. I post a pic of the house I now live. I must live in a different Thailand Where is that. It looks like a house in Baan Natcha - is it? 1
Popular Post CygnusX1 Posted February 1, 2020 Popular Post Posted February 1, 2020 On 1/28/2020 at 2:53 PM, nickmondo said: last time i was in Spain i did a price comparison. Thailand rents, fuel, electric, water, cheaper Eating in nice restaurants, about the same price Supermarkets, Spain cheaper Spain does not offer the choice of cheap eating joints as in Thailand however. Toiletries, Spain much cheaper, by a long way. All in all, I did a comprehensive comparison, and Spain worked out cheaper, except for the items listed in sentence 2 above. Standard of living, healthy climate, pollution levels, driving abilities, etc......Spain wins by a landslide. It seems that you’ve concluded that because Spain has cheaper supermarkets and toiletries, it’s cheaper overall, despite Thailand having cheaper rents, fuel, electricity and water. You must use an extraordinary amount of toiletries! 1 2
BritManToo Posted February 1, 2020 Posted February 1, 2020 22 minutes ago, CygnusX1 said: It seems that you’ve concluded that because Spain has cheaper supermarkets and toiletries, it’s cheaper overall, despite Thailand having cheaper rents, fuel, electricity and water. You must use an extraordinary amount of toiletries! The only comparison worth making is accommodation and local taxes. I don't have to drive a car, or eat in restaurants but ............ In the UK I can barely afford to live in a bedsit. In Thailand I can easily afford to live in a 3 bed house with a garden. 1
earlinclaifornia Posted February 1, 2020 Posted February 1, 2020 On 1/28/2020 at 10:31 AM, BritManToo said: Hundreds of nice apartments in the centre of Chiang Mai for 5,000bht/month + utils. I'm living in a 3 bedroom house outside the city centre for 10,000bht/month, again hundreds to choose from. Where are you getting your housing prices from? Are they all as wildly wrong as the CM prices? Same here I pay 5000 for a two bedroom duplex outskirts of CM, Noeng Yang. 1
earlinclaifornia Posted February 1, 2020 Posted February 1, 2020 I was back in America SF bay area this Summertime and the cost of everything is so very expensive. Food, rent and clothing. Rent $1900 to $2700 one or two bedrooms. I pay for a Mexican meal here $6 there the cost for similar is $10 to $12. The prices here for so much is more like prices there was back in 1960 . Like always VALUE is the true comparison.
Gweiloman Posted February 1, 2020 Posted February 1, 2020 A few years ago, I took a group of work colleagues out for a Thai dinner to celebrate the completion of a successful project. Food was served in individual portions as opposed to big portions to share. Tom Yam Gung was about Eur 6.50 per bowl. Plain white rice was Eur4.50 per bowl. And so on and so forth. All these were single portions, for one person only. Final bill (without drinks) was about Eur 200 for 6 pax. This was in South of France. All this just goes to show that Asian food is cheaper in Asia and western food is cheaper in the west. Not exactly rocket science. 1
Kidvinie Posted February 1, 2020 Posted February 1, 2020 On 1/28/2020 at 2:53 PM, nickmondo said: last time i was in Spain i did a price comparison. Thailand rents, fuel, electric, water, cheaper Eating in nice restaurants, about the same price Supermarkets, Spain cheaper Spain does not offer the choice of cheap eating joints as in Thailand however. Toiletries, Spain much cheaper, by a long way. All in all, I did a comprehensive comparison, and Spain worked out cheaper, except for the items listed in sentence 2 above. Standard of living, healthy climate, pollution levels, driving abilities, etc......Spain wins by a landslide. I've lived in a nicer part of Spain (Javea) for 19 years and there really is no comparison in quality or value for money. Spain wins hands down from buying a vehicle to household appliances, DIY goods and tools or healthy eating. I can't actually believe how expensive it is in Thailand. Ray Bans 12,000 baht (360 euro), Nike trainers 4000 baht (on offer). Even a regular coffee is more expensive. The only thing I've noticed as well priced is chicken breast and avocado lol Even house prices are over rated here (Chiang Mai). I don't know where they pull their prices from.
topt Posted February 1, 2020 Posted February 1, 2020 2 hours ago, Kidvinie said: Spain wins hands down I asked this in another, similar, thread and never got an answer. What is the tax situation there for non working/retired foreigners?
Thomas J Posted February 2, 2020 Posted February 2, 2020 I am from the USA and the cost of living in many parts of the USA is lower than Thailand. You can buy a nicer home in most of Texas for the same money. The cost of food here in Thailand is substantially higher with less selection. The only thing cheaper in Thailand is labor. Haircuts, taxi, plumber, gardener ect.
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