snoop1130 Posted January 30, 2020 Posted January 30, 2020 Soi Dog urges against Krabi mass stray roundup after American boy, 7, attacked By The Phuket News Krabi Governor Pol Lt Col (Rtd) ML Kitibodee Pravitra ordered the mass roundup after American boy Nolan Anderson, 7, was attacked by a pack of dogs on Ao Siao Beach. Photo: PR Dept PHUKET:-- Soi Dog Foundation and Lanta Animal Welfare are urging Krabi Provincial Governor Pol Lt Col (Rtd) ML Kitibodee Pravitra to revoke his order to round up and impound stray dogs at tourist hotspots in the province after a 7-year-old American boy was attacked by a pack of stray dogs at Ao Siao beach, west of Ao Nang. The boy, Nolan Jess Anderson, 7, was playing on the beach while his father was exercising nearby on Jan 18 when he was set upon by a pack of about eight dogs. The father heard Nolan’s screams and rushed to rescue him from the attack, but by that time the boy had suffered multiple bites, with deep puncture lacerations under his left arm from when he held his hands up to cover his face. Full Story: https://www.thephuketnews.com/soi-dog-urges-against-krabi-mass-stray-roundup-after-american-boy-7-attacked-74605.php -- © Copyright Phuket News 2020-01-30 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking Thailand news and visa info 3 1
Popular Post z42 Posted January 30, 2020 Popular Post Posted January 30, 2020 I am very pro-animal welfare. However when the soi dogs join together in packs they become a danger to other animals as well as humans. For that, I think the options for their future become much more limited. It is sad, but what else should the authorities do? 20
Popular Post PatOngo Posted January 30, 2020 Popular Post Posted January 30, 2020 Maybe the Soi Dog Foundation would like to take them home and feed them and prevent them from attacking innocent tourists! 21 6
Popular Post beechbum Posted January 30, 2020 Popular Post Posted January 30, 2020 So it breaks down to SD and the likes saying the pack of dogs that attacked the little boy should be sterilised, vaccinated and then returned to the original location! Strange logic. 12
Popular Post Beggar Posted January 30, 2020 Popular Post Posted January 30, 2020 I can't understand why people support such organizations. Obviously they care more about such dangerous animals than about people. "Mr Sakdapol suggested that provincial budgets would be better spent on a long-term sterilisation and vaccination programme, which is proven to be the most effective way to humanely and sustainably reduce stray dog populations." Not 1 of these measures would prevent new human victims. How many more innocent victims does it need that such a naive thinking stops?! 16 1
Popular Post Rookiescot Posted January 30, 2020 Popular Post Posted January 30, 2020 10 minutes ago, Beggar said: I can't understand why people support such organizations. Obviously they care more about such dangerous animals than about people. "Mr Sakdapol suggested that provincial budgets would be better spent on a long-term sterilisation and vaccination programme, which is proven to be the most effective way to humanely and sustainably reduce stray dog populations." Not 1 of these measures would prevent new human victims. How many more innocent victims does it need that such a naive thinking stops?! I'm sure Mr Sakdapol would still be suggesting this course of action if it had been his little boy who had been savaged by feral dogs. Or maybe he wouldn't be. 5
PremiumLane Posted January 30, 2020 Posted January 30, 2020 2 hours ago, Beggar said: Not 1 of these measures would prevent new human victims. How many more innocent victims does it need that such a naive thinking stops?! So you are an expert on dog behaviour and how to control stray dog populations?
Popular Post Beggar Posted January 30, 2020 Popular Post Posted January 30, 2020 21 minutes ago, PremiumLane said: So you are an expert on dog behaviour and how to control stray dog populations? I am sure that you are one and that you will from now on sit on this beach together with the stray dogs and guarantee that something like this will never happen again. 6 1
Popular Post lemonjelly Posted January 30, 2020 Popular Post Posted January 30, 2020 Tranquilizer dart > remove > euthanasia. It’s that simple and logical. 16
Popular Post Destiny1990 Posted January 31, 2020 Popular Post Posted January 31, 2020 Why haven’t these stray dogs not rounded up years ago? How third world that looks for the visitors. 8 1
Popular Post neeray Posted January 31, 2020 Popular Post Posted January 31, 2020 I am a domestic dog owner but seeing the miserable life that these mutts live and knowing the fear and harm they inflict on others, I agree, humanely euthanize the lot of them. As far as I know, a "sterilisation and vaccination programme" will not take them out of their "pack mentality". If not in a yard or on a leash and licensed .............. ! 9 1
Popular Post RichardColeman Posted January 31, 2020 Popular Post Posted January 31, 2020 Maybe if the Government and the Soi Dog foundation were legally responsible for every Soi dog attack hospital wise they may think their strategy again 5
ChrisY1 Posted January 31, 2020 Posted January 31, 2020 10 hours ago, lemonjelly said: Tranquilizer dart > remove > euthanasia. It’s that simple and logical. "that simple and logical."........Logic ??? Not in Thai vocabulary....sorry. 2 1
Popular Post DannyCarlton Posted January 31, 2020 Popular Post Posted January 31, 2020 11 hours ago, PremiumLane said: So you are an expert on dog behaviour and how to control stray dog populations? We have real experts in the UK. 20 years ago we had problems with packs of stray dogs roaming the streets and attacking children. Every area was allocated a professional dog warden who rounded up all the strays. They were taken to the local dog pound where every effort was made to responsibly re home them after health checks, vaccinations and neutering. Those that couldn't be rehomed were euthanased. Within a year the problem was virtually eradicated. This is what a modern, humane society does. Easy for Thailand to do the same. 14 2
Popular Post klauskunkel Posted January 31, 2020 Popular Post Posted January 31, 2020 I suggest that Soi Dog Foundation and Lanta Animal Welfare be held legally and financially responsible for future stray dog attacks. 6 2
neeray Posted January 31, 2020 Posted January 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, klauskunkel said: I suggest that Soi Dog Foundation and Lanta Animal Welfare be held legally and financially responsible for future stray dog attacks. Reasonable idea but that won't prevent future painful and potentially deadly attacks.
simple1 Posted January 31, 2020 Posted January 31, 2020 1 hour ago, Destiny1990 said: Why haven’t these stray dogs not rounded up years ago? How third world that looks for the visitors. Agree. Thailand stopped culling dogs some years back. I was in India a few moths ago - lots of stay dogs. I asked why and was informed about eight years ago culling of stray dogs was stopped, now a big problem in India e.g. https://blogs.agu.org/sciencecommunication/2019/07/09/human-rabies-mortality-in-india-why-is-this-still-an-issue/
tomazbodner Posted January 31, 2020 Posted January 31, 2020 They do have a point. When you remove dogs, other dogs will move in and soon you'll be in same situation. Either constantly remove all dogs, or neuter and return them to guard the territory, which will keep numbers low. The main point should have been chipping the dogs and checking the chips of strays, with hefty penalties for the owners who ditch their pets.
Geoffggi Posted January 31, 2020 Posted January 31, 2020 15 hours ago, Beggar said: I can't understand why people support such organizations. Obviously they care more about such dangerous animals than about people. "Mr Sakdapol suggested that provincial budgets would be better spent on a long-term sterilisation and vaccination programme, which is proven to be the most effective way to humanely and sustainably reduce stray dog populations." Not 1 of these measures would prevent new human victims. How many more innocent victims does it need that such a naive thinking stops?! I would agree with a vaccination program that put an end to their suffering...... 1
neeray Posted January 31, 2020 Posted January 31, 2020 28 minutes ago, tomazbodner said: They do have a point. When you remove dogs, other dogs will move in and soon you'll be in same situation. Either constantly remove all dogs, or neuter and return them to guard the territory, which will keep numbers low. The main point should have been chipping the dogs and checking the chips of strays, with hefty penalties for the owners who ditch their pets. This needs to be a perpetual purging program. Come on Prayut, take the lead ! 1
Popular Post Foghorn Posted January 31, 2020 Popular Post Posted January 31, 2020 Why do dogs have rights children don’t ,why do these idiots think about dogs before children . 6
Popular Post Foghorn Posted January 31, 2020 Popular Post Posted January 31, 2020 If not have stray dogs soi dog wouldn’t be in business and someone wouldn’t be making money this why they want them 4
Popular Post Cereal Posted January 31, 2020 Popular Post Posted January 31, 2020 "Mr Sakdapol suggested that provincial budgets would be better spent on a long-term sterilisation and vaccination programme, which is proven to be the most effective way to humanely and sustainably reduce stray dog populations." No, it is not. The most effective and humane way to handle this serious problem is a very careful placed bullet into the dog's head. It would feel nothing, no nothing and cause no harm again. As a bonus, it's also much faster and cheaper. 3 2
Thingamabob Posted January 31, 2020 Posted January 31, 2020 16 hours ago, Beggar said: I can't understand why people support such organizations. Obviously they care more about such dangerous animals than about people. "Mr Sakdapol suggested that provincial budgets would be better spent on a long-term sterilisation and vaccination programme, which is proven to be the most effective way to humanely and sustainably reduce stray dog populations." Not 1 of these measures would prevent new human victims. How many more innocent victims does it need that such a naive thinking stops?! I certainly care as much about animals as I do people. Humans will have a lot to answer for should there ever be a judgement day. 1 1
ThaiBunny Posted January 31, 2020 Posted January 31, 2020 21 minutes ago, Thingamabob said: I certainly care as much about animals as I do people. Humans will have a lot to answer for should there ever be a judgement day. We're all safe then 1
Scott Tracy Posted January 31, 2020 Posted January 31, 2020 This is a continuing problem which needs to be continuously managed. A one off round up and storing of stray dogs is not the way to do it. As has been said, other packs will move in. Requiring those to be removed and stored. And so on... Neutering and vaccinating them may, and I say may, decrease the pack's aggressive nature if they were returned to 'guard' their territory, but there is a continuing risk if this is done. Risk and reward, responsibility. All dogs that are owned should be identified. making the 'owner' responsible for the actions of their dog. Destroy all dogs that are strays. Continually. 1
Mavideol Posted January 31, 2020 Posted January 31, 2020 19 hours ago, snoop1130 said: Soi Dog Foundation and Lanta Animal Welfare are urging Krabi Provincial Governor Pol Lt Col (Rtd) ML Kitibodee Pravitra to revoke his order to round up and impound stray dogs quite sure the people from Soi Dog Foundation and LAnta Animal Welfare didn't have any relatives/family members and/or friends bittern by the stray dogs, if they had, they would be taking a different approach to the matter 2
CanuckThai Posted January 31, 2020 Posted January 31, 2020 The Soi Dog Foundation has the right idea, but have their proposed MO per feral species misaligned. The 2 legged version with pack mentality to attack/beat, rob or rape, should be darted/tranquilized and sterilized. The 4 legged version should be tranquilized/euthanized.
PatOngo Posted January 31, 2020 Posted January 31, 2020 2 hours ago, Thingamabob said: I certainly care as much about animals as I do people. Humans will have a lot to answer for should there ever be a judgement day. Are we beyond redemption?
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