rooster59 Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 Egypt detains doctor, parents as girl dies after genital cutting By Menna A. Farouk A badge reads "The power of labor aginst FGM" is seen on a volunteer during a conference on International Day of Zero Tolerance for Female Genital Mutilation (FGM) in Cairo, Egypt February 6, 2018. REUTERS/Amr Abdallah Dalsh TPX IMAGES OF THE DAY CAIRO (Thomson Reuters Foundation) - Egypt has detained a retired doctor after the death of a 12-year-old girl on whom he performed female genital mutilation (FGM) sparked anger among women's rights activists. The victim's parents and aunt took her to a private clinic where she underwent the illegal procedure, also known as female circumcision, the public prosecutor's office said in a statement. "After she left, she suffered complications. The doctor tried to save her, but she passed away," said the statement, pledging "firm action" against anyone carrying out the procedure in the future. The girl's relatives are also being held for a period of four days while the authorities investigate her death, said the statement, issued late on Thursday. Genital cutting of girls was banned in Egypt in 2008, but the practice remains a rite of passage and is often viewed as a way to promote chastity. A 2016 survey by the U.N. Children's Fund showed that 87 percent of women and girls aged 15-49 in Egypt have undergone the procedure. Villagers say husbands prefer wives to be cut and often ask young brides to undergo the procedure before their wedding. In 2016 the practice was made a felony, meaning doctors who perform the procedure can be jailed for up to seven years. Anyone requesting the operation - usually relatives - faces jail of up to three years. However, activists say the law has not been strictly enforced and even those found guilty are often given a lighter penalty. Entessar el-Saeed, a human rights lawyer at the Cairo Foundation for Development and Law, said the persistence of the practice showed more needed to be done to raise awareness, particularly in rural areas. "Medicine, the law and religion are against this practice and yet it is still widespread," she told Thomson Reuters Foundation. FGM typically involves the partial or total removal of the external genitalia. In some cases the vaginal opening is sewn up. Other procedures, more common in parts of Asia, include nicking or pricking the clitoris. World leaders have pledged to eradicate the practice by 2030, but campaigners say the ancient ritual remains deeply entrenched in many places. Reda Eldanbouki, a lawyer who works to hold those responsible accountable, said that authorities including judges and police often treated female circumcision cases with leniency in Egypt. "Most of them do not take the cases seriously because they believe that it is for the benefit of the girl to undergo female circumcision for the protection of her chastity," said Eldanbouki, executive director of the Women's Center for Guidance and Legal Awareness. (Reporting by Menna A. Farouk, Editing by Claire Cozens. Please credit Thomson Reuters Foundation, the charitable arm of Thomson Reuters, that covers humanitarian news, women's rights, trafficking, property rights, and climate change. Visit www.trust.org) -- © Copyright Reuters 2020-02-01 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking Thailand news and visa info 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mike787 Posted January 31, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 31, 2020 Let me cut their nut sack with a rusty dull knife slowly see how that feels. 8 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kinnock Posted February 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 1, 2020 And the WHO population predictions for 2050 show that these primitive, backward looking cultures of Middle East and North Africa will inherit the Earth. The least developed and most war-torn nations have the highest birthrates - so welcome to the new Dark Ages. It's like evolution in reverse. 7 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post BritManToo Posted February 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 1, 2020 1 minute ago, Kinnock said: The least developed and most war-torn nations have the highest birthrates - so welcome to the new Dark Ages. It's like evolution in reverse. Horrible story, but in some ways you're right, the world is a very odd place. In the west we give women choices, and their choice is usually not to breed with us. 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post simple1 Posted February 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 1, 2020 2 hours ago, Kinnock said: And the WHO population predictions for 2050 show that these primitive, backward looking cultures of Middle East and North Africa will inherit the Earth. The least developed and most war-torn nations have the highest birthrates - so welcome to the new Dark Ages. It's like evolution in reverse. Your claim is incorrect - just rabid right wing propaganda. In 2017, Pew projected that the Muslim population of Europe would reach a level between 7% and 14% by 2050 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Europe BTW the terrible cruel cultural practise of FGM is also carried out regionally by the Christian community https://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2016/02/female-genital-mutilation-not-uniquely-muslim-problem/ 3 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RJRS1301 Posted February 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 1, 2020 Disgusting procedure, any person carrying it out whether medically trained or not should be incarcerated for a long time. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post Kinnock Posted February 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 1, 2020 2 hours ago, simple1 said: Your claim is incorrect - just rabid right wing propaganda. In 2017, Pew projected that the Muslim population of Europe would reach a level between 7% and 14% by 2050 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Europe BTW the terrible cruel cultural practise of FGM is also carried out regionally by the Christian community https://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2016/02/female-genital-mutilation-not-uniquely-muslim-problem/ Just rabid right wing propaganda spread by the WHO. ???? https://www.un.org/development/desa/en/news/population/world-population-prospects-2017.html It's a well known trend, both WHO and UN also published reports showing by 2050 the Middle East and Africa populations will be the highest due to the high birth rates, which is a direct result of poor education of women, low economic performance and civil violence. Blindly defending the indefensible will not change the facts. 4 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sydebolle Posted February 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 1, 2020 Fidelism (as we are no longer allowed to call it Islam) at its very very finest. I consider this voluntary manslaughter, for which the medic, his staff, the girl's parents and everyone else who know need to be held responsible. But well, all in the name of the almighty ............ Terrible terrible terrible, how does it feel having destroyed, voluntarily, the young life in the name of the faith! 3 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Krataiboy Posted February 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 1, 2020 2 hours ago, RJRS1301 said: Disgusting procedure, any person carrying it out whether medically trained or not should be incarcerated for a long time. Who could argue with that? In my homeland, the UK, a new case of FGM is reported every hour. Yet the cowardly authorities continue to turn a politically-correct blind eye to the problem - as they did for decades while mainly Muslim rape gangs abused and trafficked thousands of underage girl on "an industrial scale". Since FGM was declared illegal in Britain over thirty years ago, there has been just one successful prosecution of this appalling practice, routine among a Muslim population set to triple to around 13 million by 2050, https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/female-genital-mutilation-fgm-case-per-hour-uk-nhs-circumcision-a7564571.html https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/11/29/muslim-population-uk-could-triple-13m-following-record-influx/ 6 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simple1 Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Kinnock said: <SNIP> Blindly defending the indefensible will not change the facts. What you previously posted was "cultures of Middle East and North Africa will inherit the Earth." which is utter nonsense promoted by the extreme right of centre. Edited February 1, 2020 by simple1 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ivor bigun Posted February 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 1, 2020 5 hours ago, simple1 said: Your claim is incorrect - just rabid right wing propaganda. In 2017, Pew projected that the Muslim population of Europe would reach a level between 7% and 14% by 2050 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Europe BTW the terrible cruel cultural practise of FGM is also carried out regionally by the Christian community https://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2016/02/female-genital-mutilation-not-uniquely-muslim-problem/ Carry on trying to defend them ,but you are fighting a losing battle ,they try to bring their disgusting practices to the west daily . we know it ,and i am sure in your deepest heart you know it as well , 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlover Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 2 hours ago, Sydebolle said: Fidelism (as we are no longer allowed to call it Islam) at its very very finest. I consider this voluntary manslaughter, for which the medic, his staff, the girl's parents and everyone else who know need to be held responsible. But well, all in the name of the almighty ............ Terrible terrible terrible, how does it feel having destroyed, voluntarily, the young life in the name of the faith! This is not correct. FGM is carried out by both the Christian and Islamic communities in Egypt It is also condemned by the religious leaders of both of them. Historical studies indicate that it very likely predates both religions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jany123 Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 3 hours ago, Kinnock said: Just rabid right wing propaganda spread by the WHO. ???? https://www.un.org/development/desa/en/news/population/world-population-prospects-2017.html It's a well known trend, both WHO and UN also published reports showing by 2050 the Middle East and Africa populations will be the highest due to the high birth rates, which is a direct result of poor education of women, low economic performance and civil violence. Blindly defending the indefensible will not change the facts. How on earth does this link support your earlier claim? Following your logic, the earth should already have been inherited by the Chinese, and your post and link, about fertility and numbers, support this idea. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thongkorn Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 6 hours ago, RJRS1301 said: Disgusting procedure, any person carrying it out whether medically trained or not should be incarcerated for a long time. News for you its happening in the UK Now, Old habits die hard, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack7106 Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 7 hours ago, simple1 said: Your claim is incorrect - just rabid right wing propaganda. In 2017, Pew projected that the Muslim population of Europe would reach a level between 7% and 14% by 2050 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Europe BTW the terrible cruel cultural practise of FGM is also carried out regionally by the Christian community https://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2016/02/female-genital-mutilation-not-uniquely-muslim-problem/ So part of your argument relies on a project of a population of between 7% and 14% – this appears to me to be a 100% disparity. Therefore the author of this report is egregiously shocking ????♂️???????????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opl Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, simple1 said: What you previously posted was "cultures of Middle East and North Africa will inherit the Earth." which is utter nonsense promoted by the extreme right of centre. overpopulation + lack of education + poverty = economic migrations - this is pure logic. "Sub-Saharan Africa’s population is set to double over the next 30 years, adding an additional 1bn people and putting it on track to overtake central and south Asia soon after as the world’s most populous region. " Edited February 1, 2020 by Opl 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJRS1301 Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 9 hours ago, Thongkorn said: News for you its happening in the UK Now, Old habits die hard, I am aware some still carry it out, not only in the UK, makes it no less disgusting. Medico and nurse and family member convicted in Australia couple of years ago for doing it. Often carried out by unqualified females according to reports I have read Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendejo Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 This is one of those cases where there is actually a positive side to bigotry: if there was a unity of conservative, fundamentalist religious practices I could see where this kind of thing could be taken up by extremist Christian sects in the US. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simple1 Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 4 hours ago, Opl said: overpopulation + lack of education + poverty = economic migrations - this is pure logic. "Sub-Saharan Africa’s population is set to double over the next 30 years, adding an additional 1bn people and putting it on track to overtake central and south Asia soon after as the world’s most populous region. " Where does your graph support the claim "cultures of Middle East and North Africa will inherit the Earth." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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overherebc Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 2 hours ago, simple1 said: Where does your graph support the claim "cultures of Middle East and North Africa will inherit the Earth." I wouldn't really worry about massive expansion of the world population getting out of control. Nature will find a way. It won't be nice but it will be effective. Mankind itself might even do it and that will be nasty. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyril sneer Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 On 2/1/2020 at 5:45 AM, rooster59 said: Genital cutting of girls was banned in Egypt in 2008 most shocking part of the article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyril sneer Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 On 2/1/2020 at 8:34 AM, Kinnock said: And the WHO population predictions for 2050 show that these primitive, backward looking cultures of Middle East and North Africa will inherit the Earth. The least developed and most war-torn nations have the highest birthrates - so welcome to the new Dark Ages. It's like evolution in reverse. excellent post 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyril sneer Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 20 hours ago, nobodysfriend said: What is it good for anyway ...? That women do not enjoy sex ...? Primitive rs holes ... Make love not war . it's for exactly this reason luckiliy they can't get their hands on womens seretonin receptors, though this may change in the near future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opl Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 3 hours ago, simple1 said: Where does your graph support the claim "cultures of Middle East and North Africa will inherit the Earth." Is it so difficult to understand how people migrate, and that the numbers you present as arguments don't give any sense of the reality of the dynamic in motion? impoverished populations from those régions move with their good and bad habits, same causes same consequences 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simple1 Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 8 minutes ago, Opl said: Is it so difficult to understand how people migrate, and that the numbers you present as arguments don't give any sense of the reality of the dynamic in motion? impoverished populations from those régions move with their good and bad habits, same causes same consequences Currently their is no empirical proof whatsoever that African and M.E, tribal cultural practises will eventually replace the cultural norms of Western countries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksidedog Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 A reported post and subsequent flaming and bickering replies have been removed. This is a nasty enough topic already, but please stick to it rather than making accusations about other posters, which is off topic and guaranteed to destroy the discussion. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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