1 minute ago, SteveK said:

Western men have it ingrained in them from birth to treat women as equals, and quite rightly so. I have met dozens of Thai women who say that they don't want a Thai man again because of beatings, yaba abuse, cheating etc. - how much of that I believe I don't know, but it does seem that Thai men in general treat women as inferior.

Bargirl 101, Chapter 1: Tell every farang you meet that you "No like Thai man!"  "Like farang mak mak!"  If the farang ask why, just tell them anything because they will believe you. 

I'm flipping the coin, thai women suck !

3 minutes ago, Liverpudlian said:

I'm flipping the coin, thai women suck !

Some of them could suck a golf ball through a garden hose.

3 minutes ago, Liverpudlian said:

I'm flipping the coin, thai women suck !

I hope so.........????

Such an exciting, thought provoking topic. I wasn't here in 1999, but from reading old internet scriptures I understand that a Jedi Master called Stickman used to write about the same subjects ????

1 hour ago, spidermike007 said:

A rather general question. I think the vast majority prefer Thai, as it is familiar, they share a common language and culture, and it is more comfortable for them. Having said that, there is a small percentage that are open minded, have heard good things about foreign men from their girlfriends, and are open to the possibilities. I have been told by many that foreign men are more affectionate, more communicative (a rather mixed bag on that one), and more willing to provide them with support. Also, I often hear from them, that some foreign men are not as possessive and as jealous, and allow their women more independence. My wife has alot of independence. She tells me her girlfriends cannot believe it. Often when they go out, their boyfriends or husbands have to join. Not an option for them to go solo. For me, sitting around and listening to them jabbering for hours (in Thai) is the epitome of boring. 

Whe the wife goes away for a day, or preferably a week....

Easy. In general they prefer Thai men. It's why many often have a Thai man, brother, uncle in the background. However they also like money which provides a better lifestyle so we get a look in. Try dating a Thai lady and not supporting her and her family and see how long it lasts. Often the Thai lady will work and the ferang will have a pension. Normally youd think the lady wouldn't require so much support when she works but how many foreign husbands don't pay an allowance to supplement their salary. The only rationale is paying for youth as financially the set up in Thailand would otherwise be seen as taking the pi55!

What often amazes me though is after a while the Thai ladies attitude is she wants more and is ungrateful. I often see behaviour that is disrespectful when they are milking a foreigner. A sort of quiet loathing and contempt.

Just now, twix38 said:

Try dating a Thai lady and not supporting her and her family and see how long it lasts

17 years so far!

So no monthly income or buying house or car in her name. No supporting her parents or her kids from previous relationships. No clearing her debts or .....

 

In summary you have relationship like is typical in the West. You don't pay her for anything or buy her anything for her use or sole  ownership at all that would be over and above that normally practised in relationships and neither do you give her an allowance if she works . I don't believe you. My point is even if you don't that is very unusual. 

 

It started with a dowry and went on from there to pay for items for her family etc

My wife was not a bargirl, runs her own business and owns lots of land. She won't ever have a Thai husband again because the first one beat her regularly then left her to fend for herself with two young children after being imprisoned on drug offences.

 

She doesn't need any financial support from me. But sometimes I make a nice gesture to her family which is very much appreciated. She is much cheaper to run than a western bloater.

Really don't care if you believe me or not ... but I pay her nothing and we have always split everything. I think the trouble is most westerners tend to think all thai women are like bar girls and that just simply isn't the case.

2 minutes ago, CraigInBangkok said:

Really don't care if you believe me or not ... but I pay her nothing and we have always split everything. I think the trouble is most westerners tend to think all thai women are like bar girls and that just simply isn't the case.

I don't pay my wife anything either, except on her birthday. In return I get free accommodation and as much Isaan food as I can eat (not much). Western guys living in Thailand paying a regular stipend to their "partner" are mugs, it's basically a long-term prostitute.

Western bloaters don't expect the sort of family gestures Thais do. 

 

I must let my married mates know that their foreign wives would appreciate them sending gestures to their (spouses) parents. There's always terms and always different, but if you don't pay the relationship will end within a couple of years as a general rule.

 

Sounds like you have a keeper in large part due to previous Thai husband. Let's face it most Thai ladies are in business for foreign mans income and imv they generally otherwise would prefer Thai men. Accept that does not apply to you in the circumstances. 

 

I don't know about other peoples feelings but if you have to pay someone or their family to be with you, something is not right. I was never going to go for something like that. Not judging anyone thats just the way I am and think.

25 minutes ago, twix38 said:

Easy. In general they prefer Thai men. It's why many often have a Thai man, brother, uncle in the background. However they also like money which provides a better lifestyle so we get a look in. Try dating a Thai lady and not supporting her and her family and see how long it lasts. Often the Thai lady will work and the ferang will have a pension. Normally youd think the lady wouldn't require so much support when she works but how many foreign husbands don't pay an allowance to supplement their salary. The only rationale is paying for youth as financially the set up in Thailand would otherwise be seen as taking the pi55!

What often amazes me though is after a while the Thai ladies attitude is she wants more and is ungrateful. I often see behaviour that is disrespectful when they are milking a foreigner. A sort of quiet loathing and contempt.

You've been listening to bar stool stuff for too long or been taken... 

 

12 minutes ago, twix38 said:

Sounds like you have a keeper in large part due to previous Thai husband. Let's face it most Thai ladies are in business for foreign mans income and imv they generally otherwise would prefer Thai men. Accept that does not apply to you in the circumstances. 

 

100% agree with your comments that many Thai women see Western men as a solution to their family-wide financial problems.

 

I met my wife out of sheer chance in a restaurant, and she is 7 years older than me. Definitely not the norm as most western men in Thailand are looking for someone significantly younger then wonder why all she wants is money.

 

If you're 50+, overweight and bald, why would you think that a 25 year old stunner would want to spend time with you? Some guys are either stupid or have spent too much time in their youth using mind-altering substances.

9 minutes ago, twix38 said:

Western bloaters don't expect the sort of family gestures Thais do. 

 

I must let my married mates know that their foreign wives would appreciate them sending gestures to their spouses parents. There's always terms and always different. 

 

Sounds like you have a keeper in large part due to previous Thai husband. Let's face it most Thai ladies are in business for foreign mans income and imv they generally otherwise would prefer Thai men. Accept that does not apply to you in the circumstances. 

 

Or me............

2 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

A rather general question. I think the vast majority prefer Thai, as it is familiar, they share a common language and culture, and it is more comfortable for them. Having said that, there is a small percentage that are open minded, have heard good things about foreign men from their girlfriends, and are open to the possibilities. I have been told by many that foreign men are more affectionate, more communicative (a rather mixed bag on that one), and more willing to provide them with support. Also, I often hear from them, that some foreign men are not as possessive and as jealous, and allow their women more independence. My wife has alot of independence. She tells me her girlfriends cannot believe it. Often when they go out, their boyfriends or husbands have to join. Not an option for them to go solo. For me, sitting around and listening to them jabbering for hours (in Thai) is the epitome of boring. 

I agree with the above but would add that Thai women who have had miserable experiences with unfaithful Thai husband's with mia  nois think that it's more secure arrangement with the falang.

46 minutes ago, SteveK said:

Western men have it ingrained in them from birth to treat women as equals, and quite rightly so. I have met dozens of Thai women who say that they don't want a Thai man again because of beatings, yaba abuse, cheating etc. - how much of that I believe I don't know, but it does seem that Thai men in general treat women as inferior.

Have you read many posts here at TVF how foreigners describe their wives? e.g. cannot have an intelligent conversation. Her thinking is very shallow etc.?

In any country, the majority of the locals will prefer a local partner. In exceptional circumstances, relationships may develop between foreigners which are genuine.

But the majority of the stories we hear around here is about the relationship between a foreign wallet! Generally it is obvious to the bi-stander - but with your pink glasses on... its bliss, until the nose dive starts.

The filthy rich are surrounded by so many beauties... is it for the love of the old, fat man?

No need to choose Thailand - this phenomena is international!

????

2 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

I have been told by many that foreign men are more

 

What I mostly heard is that we don't beat them;
if in addition we do not drink alcohol and do not smoke (which is my case), Thai men can go get dressed and see elsewhere if I am there.
The size of the "thing" can sometimes be taken into consideration but I do not think it is decisive since it is with a "thing" of small size that the guys here make gorgeous chicks ...

2 hours ago, GalaxyMan said:

The older I get, the better I was. ????

As we say in France: "it is in old pots that we make the best soups" 

Transam, or pethaps you haven't woken up yet.

My views are from observation, experience and some horror stories I have personally known where the foreign guy praised Thai wife and found out different later. I see many happy relationships where my own observation and knowledge is the Thai lady has little respect for her husband and even less appreciation.

Sure there are exceptions but I am often amazes for instance when a Thai lady is getting $$$ and asks for more or is given more and they often hardly seem to appreciate the extra and the foreigner ends up regretting the gesture because he feels it (he) isn't appreciated. The more you give the more is expected and the less is appreciated.

 

 

2 hours ago, Mavideol said:

I did, I did, when she wanted to scam me out of 2K

In 15 years she did it to me only once because the month following her monthly budget was cut by 2K  

1 minute ago, Assurancetourix said:

The size of the "thing" can sometimes be taken into consideration but I do not think it is decisive since it is with a "thing" of small size that the guys here make gorgeous chicks ...

Any talk of "size" issues should be disregarded - Japanese men are supposedly some of the smallest but some of the most voracious and perverted sex pests going, and seem to have no problems in producing offspring.

 

Would you rather have a girl with huge jumbo breasts who was a complete a-hole and couldn't give a rat's ass about you, or one with very small boobs who was loving and caring? I think women think the same about banana size. I would always go for the nice girl (unless of course I was paying).

1 hour ago, Isaanbiker said:

My Canadian friend: "Tomorrow, I go Bangkok." " I no have", etc.

Yinn would she be canadian? 

5 minutes ago, twix38 said:

Transam, or pethaps you haven't woken up yet.

My views are from observation, experience and some horror stories I have personally known where the foreign guy praised Thai wife and found out different later. I see many happy relationships where my own observation and knowledge is the Thai lady has little respect for her husband and even less appreciation.

Sure there are exceptions but I am often amazes for instance when a Thai lady is getting $$$ and asks for more or is given more and they often hardly seem to appreciate the extra and the foreigner ends up regretting the gesture because he feels it (he) isn't appreciated. The more you give the more is expected and the less is appreciated.

 

 

What do you mean "perhaps you haven't woken up yet".....? ????

3 minutes ago, twix38 said:

My views are from observation, experience and some horror stories I have personally known where the foreign guy praised Thai wife and found out different later. I see many happy relationships where my own observation and knowledge is the Thai lady has little respect for her husband and even less appreciation.

Sure there are exceptions but I am often amazes for instance when a Thai lady is getting $$$ and asks for more or is given more and they often hardly seem to appreciate the extra and the foreigner ends up regretting the gesture because he feels it (he) isn't appreciated. The more you give the more is expected and the less is appreciated.

I have heard horror stories but what really amazes me is the guys don't see them coming. Again if you are paying monthly what do you expect?

1 hour ago, NanLaew said:

So my big cock hasn't made any difference at all these past 3 score and 3?

 

Gutted I am, gutted.

You shouldn't watch so much gay porn, my friend. 

2 hours ago, Tagged said:

Oh my G, you keep statistic? 

I think they are called notches on the bed post ????

There are some very good looking Thai men about compared to a lot of older ,less fit foreign men .