Shocking response to a complaint about tax fraud

[WonnabeBiker]

Several teachers I know have never bothered to file tax returns. Walking away from 5-digit tax refunds. My last school promised to handle the tax returns for all foreigners. In the past, this has worked out (some reported getting "a few hundred Baht"). 

 

The official deadline is in March? They said, they would do it "in Summer". It never happened.

 

All efforts, to get the tax forms have been in vain. Angry and desperate for the refund, I complained to OPEC. 

 

Tonight, they emailed a response.

 

It's so bizarre, I wonder what to make of it? The issue at hand is the tax reporting. Just as a reminder. 

 

They e,ailed me my contract and all the gross salaries of the foreign teachers at the school. Interesting. ** Then they reported that because of me being some bad dude, who couldn't get a B-Visa, my tax complaint has been labeled as a hoax. <deleted>?!? I got a B-Visa and the author of this letter needs to stay on topic. Alas, he never thought about his own tax affairs, the need to file a tax return? The document the Revenue Department wants? 

 

They walk among us.

 

The local RD told me, schools have to submit tax payments "monthly". If they did it dutifully, why can't they hand over the confirmations If not, I would rush to make those payments and be done with.

 

TBH, it's a sweet little racket - who wouldn't like to file tax returns for colleagues, pocketing about 95%.

[FritsSikkink]

"it's a sweet little racket - who wouldn't like to file tax returns for colleagues, pocketing about 95%"

They can't pocket tax returns. 

You either get it in your account via PROMPT pay or you need to go to the bank with the tax letter, your passport and your work permit.

[Scott]

An inflammatory post has been removed.   Keep it civil.

[otherstuff1957]

As Frits pointed out, they cannot cash or deposit your tax return.  A much more common and more likely scam is to deduct taxes from your paycheck and then pocket that money instead of paying it on to the Tax office.

 

You should have a Tax ID number.  If you do not know what it is, go to the Tax office closest to your school and show them your passport and Work Permit.  They should be able to issue you a card with your Tax ID number.  If they do, then your school has probably been paying taxes.  If they do not have you in their database, your school has probably been taking the 'tax money' withheld from your paycheck.

 

If you have been paying taxes, the same office can probably give you the forms you need to file a tax return, but I think that the school will still have to provide some forms or information.

 

If your taxes have not been paid, the situation can become much more difficult.  I have known foreigners who ended up with big income tax bills because their school under-withheld their taxes or didn't increase their withholding after they got a raise.

[moontang]

Others will know more, but isn't there a possibility of having to prove you are clear with taxes, before you can leave?  Same with cancelling your visa/wp?

 

As mentioned, the scam is them deducting and putting it in their pocket.  Part of the toxic environment of people working illegally, on mostly false promises.  You have to complain so much to get legal, that you get fired.

[Neeranam]

On 3/2/2020 at 6:18 PM, moontang said:

Others will know more, but isn't there a possibility of having to prove you are clear with taxes, before you can leave?  Same with cancelling your visa/wp?

 

As mentioned, the scam is them deducting and putting it in their pocket.  Part of the toxic environment of people working illegally, on mostly false promises.  You have to complain so much to get legal, that you get fired.

That was done away with in the early 90s.

 

March is not the deadline. I don my taxes in April, when it is quiet. I pay 100 baht fine.

[moontang]

I got my return three weeks ago..even reused the same ktb 

cardfrom last time

It remembered my uncollected 30 THB from last year...had 1680..they told me I could not add to it to make an even amount..I called BS and put them on the phone..20 THB later.i was able to get 1700.

[topt]

20 hours ago, Neeranam said:

March is not the deadline. I don my taxes in April, when it is quiet. I pay 100 baht fine.

Semantics no.......? January to March is the official filing period. If you file later than you pay a (very small) fine.  

[natway09]

Get yourself along to the tax department with your tax file number, passport (B visa) & your 

pay slips 

& ask them how much paid in.

They are very helpful. Once you have this answer you can decide if wish to have a go 

at them for fraud,,,,,,,,your choice.

If they have paid it ONLY you can get the  refund

[jojothai]

21 hours ago, Neeranam said:

That was done away with in the early 90s.

 

March is not the deadline. I don my taxes in April, when it is quiet. I pay 100 baht fine.

False information.

Check the websites for the deadline, end of march.

If you choose to declare late thats your decision.

[Khun Yaaai]

2 hours ago, topt said:

Semantics no.......? January to March is the official filing period. If you file later than you pay a (very small) fine.  

Not this year, they've extended the deadline until end of June.

[Neeranam]

On 2/25/2020 at 10:42 PM, FritsSikkink said:

"it's a sweet little racket - who wouldn't like to file tax returns for colleagues, pocketing about 95%"

They can't pocket tax returns. 

You either get it in your account via PROMPT pay or you need to go to the bank with the tax letter, your passport and your work permit.

I got 19,000 sent straight to my bank account. I don't have prompt.

[Neeranam]

On 3/12/2020 at 10:20 AM, jojothai said:

False information.

Check the websites for the deadline, end of march.

If you choose to declare late thats your decision.

I've done it late for many years, so it's not false information.

My 3 years from 2015-2017 were even accepted by the Special Branch police and the Ministry of Interior for getting Thai citizenship. 

[Mambowoman]

A clear case of defamation.

 

https://www.bangkokpost.com/business/1839844/finance-ministry-extends-income-tax-deadline-to-june

[Neeranam]

On 3/12/2020 at 10:56 AM, Khun Yaaai said:

Not this year, they've extended the deadline until end of June.

Good news. 

[thequietman]

On 3/31/2020 at 1:03 PM, Neeranam said:

I've done it late for many years, so it's not false information.

My 3 years from 2015-2017 were even accepted by the Special Branch police and the Ministry of Interior for getting Thai citizenship. 

Please can I ask, what salary did they expect you to be earning?  Many thanks.

[Neeranam]

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