Smokers and Covid-19: Regular cigarette and e-cigarette users face 5,000 fine for lighting up in public

[rooster59]

Smokers and Covid-19: Regular cigarette and e-cigarette users face 5,000 fine for lighting up in public

 

Image: Sanook

 

A leading figure in the fight against Covid-19 has said that smokers - even e-cigarette ones - can easily spread the virus if they are infected.

 

He has warned that smokers face 5,000 baht fines for lighting up in public.

 

Khajornsak Kaewjaras, a deputy at the infectious disease department, was speaking after officials were called in to investigate many people smoking at a temple in the area of Pak Kret, Nonthaburi, north west of Bangkok.

 

Khajornsak said that when smokers exhale their smoke carries their phlegm and bacteria on particles far and wide. This is true of both regular cigarette smokers and e-cigarette users.

 

If the smoker is infected with coronavirus the possibility of transmission to other people in a wide area is heightened.

 

People would be fined 5,000 baht under Article 42, he said, for lighting up in public.

 

Source: Sanook

 

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[SilentSal]

First 5,000 baht to smoke near certain areas "OK, understandable..." Now 5,000 if you smoke anywhere. This is ridiculous. (but if it's true about it spreading easier then it's understandable i suppose)

[WineOh]

What’s the fine for farting in public?

Asking for a friend.

[Sambotte]

It's a joke, right ? ????

[Sambotte]

Any medical, scientific, base ?

[sungod]

Well, from what i can gather is if you want to smoke then you are putting yourself at more risk.

 

I've read nothing from anywhere else in the world where smoking actually spreads it. Perhaps this guy has the scoop.........?

 

(or not)

[connda]

21 minutes ago, rooster59 said:

If the smoker is infected with coronavirus the possibility of transmission to other people in a wide area is heightened.

How?  

[Wiggy]

If it is true (which I doubt as I’ve heard nothing from real experts) then we should also be fined 5,000 baht for breathing as we might spread it that way. Imbecile. 

[Puchaiyank]

Good!

[Sambotte]

If real, they just lost my 500.000 bahts elite visa. I'm not kidding.

Unless it's scientifically proved (witch i doubt), that's just a non-sense, have nothing else to do or incompetent, and choose a scapegoat (minority).

What next ? Alcool no it's a majority. Cheese ? Fart being vectors... Coffee ? Farang drug this is.

 

No seriously, it's not so much the thing here, than the feeling : scapegoat and less freedom !

Even USA, or China don't go so far i think.

Crazy.

500.000 bahts. Other country with minimum of freedom (both way, i totally respect non-smokers).

 

I just hope enough people will point out the scientific non-sense here.

[Sambotte]

I wonder what the guy smokes... Bad product, bad trip ????

[Justgrazing]

41 minutes ago, rooster59 said:

Khajornsak said that when smokers exhale their smoke carries their phlegm and bacteria on particles far and wide. This is true of both regular cigarette smokers and e-cigarette users

Yea but surely the particles will be deaded by the cloud of toxic smoke they are hitching a ride on .. 

And they don't mention ganja but there again the droplets would probably be too stoned looking for another host after a blast of green .. I should imagine .. ????

[jabis]

3 minutes ago, Sambotte said:

If real, they just lost my 500.000 bahts elite visa. I'm not kidding.

Unless it's scientifically proved (witch i doubt), that's just a non-sense, have nothing else to do or incompetent, and choose a scapegoat (minority).

What next ? Alcool no it's a majority. Cheese ? Fart being vectors... Coffee ? Farang drug this is.

 

No seriously, it's not so much the thing here, than the feeling : scapegoat and less freedom !

Even USA, or China don't go so far i think.

Crazy.

500.000 bahts. Other country with minimum of freedom (both way, i totally respect non-smokers).

 

I just hope enough people will point out the scientific non-sense here.

No they didn't - you paid it upfront - so they just gain with you waiving the visa, lol

[jabis]

Just now, Justgrazing said:

Yea but surely the particles will be deaded by the cloud of toxic smoke they are hitching a ride on .. 

And they don't mention ganja but there again the droplets would probably be too stoned looking for another host after a blast of green .. I should imagine .. ????

E-cigs dispell vapour that's ingested, and the rest exhaled is mostly without toxins or pollutants - as in exhaling air   

[DrTuner]

What?!?! Smoke carrying SARS-CoV-2, well that's a new one. Sure it can aerosolize but this is the very first time I've seen anybody suggest it'd adhere to the smoke particles. 

 

If they continue on this brainfart reasoning, they'll notice the air is full of PM2.5 and PM10 particles. Oooops.

[Kelsall]

Another rule they won't enforce.

[Youlike]

10 minutes ago, Sambotte said:

Even USA, or China don't go so far i think.

 

In Europe they scapegoat the virus for dirty air, air with much pollution (like in the italian mountains, serious!) contributes to the spread of the virus...i read it in the newspaper.

[Sambotte]

10 minutes ago, jabis said:

No they didn't - you paid it upfront - so they just gain with you waiving the visa, lol

I did not pay yet. They will lose my 500.000 and many smokers if they go crazy.

What next ? No boum-boum ? Contagion. "For your safety".

Freedom is something i do not sell.

[Sambotte]

4 minutes ago, Youlike said:

In Europe they scapegoat the virus for dirty air, air with much pollution (like in the italian mountains, serious!) contributes to the spread of the virus...i read it in the newspaper.

Yeah. I forget : how much is the fine for BURNING ENTIRE FIELD in the north ?!

[smedly]

this is complete tosh

 

just look at the guys face - there's nothing behind it

 

No doubt one of the anti smoking agencies that contribute nothing and are a waste of air 

[Sambotte]

6 minutes ago, Kelsall said:

Another rule they won't enforce.

Police will try to get extra money with that, like helmet, driving licence.

[cyril sneer]

10 minutes ago, Kelsall said:

Another rule they won't enforce.

It’ll be enforced for foreigners only 

 

the same way it’s done for having no motorbike licence

[Sambotte]

I did not find his article 42. Anyone knows ?

[Youlike]

14 minutes ago, Sambotte said:

Yeah. I forget : how much is the fine for BURNING ENTIRE FIELD in the north ?!

Chiang mai is in or near the top 10 of most polluted cities worldwide, so the virus must be happy to spread there...i bet the air in italy is far far cleaner than in chiang mai.

[Ventenio]

We came here because of the "strange" rules and all that.  But now we are suckers to the system and being used like a rented mule.   I hate smokers, but this is a rather hard addiction.  If I see farang smoke, I report them.  jk.  

 

yea, we aren't wanted anymore and we will get no sympathy from anyone.  i'm glad i decided not to retire here, and, as we know, you get what you pay for.  

 

i just have a bad feeling things are going to get much worse.  My gut says all farangs will need some special COVID test every year for 30,000 baht.  stuff like that....more monitoring.  less rights.  and if the economy tanks I need to worry about my bank account.  

[owl sees all]

1 minute ago, Youlike said:

Chiang mai is in or near the top 10 of most polluted cities worldwide, so the virus must be happy to spread there...i bet the air in italy is far far cleaner than in chiang mai.

The COVID-19 virus can 'hitch a ride' on a smoke particle. If there is a little breeze the virus can travel a long way (maybe miles) before it finds a new host. This is why Chiang Mai people are so sick.

 

I'm not so knowledgeable about e-ciggies; so can't comment. Used to smoke myself but gave it up in 1976,

[Sambotte]

2 minutes ago, owl sees all said:

The COVID-19 virus can 'hitch a ride' on a smoke particle.

Scientific reference please ?

[Tingtong2mut]

Were groping at straws now ????????

[Yadon Toploy]

42 minutes ago, Sambotte said:

If real, they just lost my 500.000 bahts elite visa. I'm not kidding.

Unless it's scientifically proved (witch i doubt), that's just a non-sense, have nothing else to do or incompetent, and choose a scapegoat (minority).

What next ? Alcool no it's a majority. Cheese ? Fart being vectors... Coffee ? Farang drug this is.

 

No seriously, it's not so much the thing here, than the feeling : scapegoat and less freedom !

Even USA, or China don't go so far i think.

Crazy.

500.000 bahts. Other country with minimum of freedom (both way, i totally respect non-smokers).

 

I just hope enough people will point out the scientific non-sense here.

This is what happens when a bunch of thick, sociopathic gangsters run things from a governmental to village level in a country with one of the poorest education systems on the planet. 

 

Enjoy the show. There's nothing else like it on Earth. 

[Yadon Toploy]

This nonsense comes a day after Phillip Morris called the Thais out for being unethical and ignoring international law. 

 

Funny that, eh?