'Thais better off than people in New York' during Covid-19 outbreak

[Jonathan Fairfield]

'Thais better off than people in New York' during Covid-19 outbreak

Image: Reuters file photo

 

A Thai nurse who works at a small hospital in New York tells a depressing story of gloom and death and considers Thailand to be much better off.

 

Damrong Pudtan, a famous television host and former senator, revealed his chat with a former head of Thai nurses, who used to work in a famous luxury hospital in Bangkok, and then moved to a small state hospital in the centre of New York some years ago.

 

She spoke to Damrong on April 3 about her experience.

 

She said working during this pandemic has been depressing because during every shift there were always 3-4 people dead. Before the dead body is taken away another infected patient is ready to take their place. Although it was a small hospital, seeing dead people there was like "watching leaves fall from a tree".

 

She said Thai people and Thailand had better luck as the weather was better. In New York, it is still cold and gloomy on some days because of rains. "But in our country, April is hot and dry. Also, foreigners do not agree to wear mask like in Thailand, where one has to wear a mask.

 

When he asked her about a protest march by nurses in New York over shortage of medical equipment or protective masks, she said, "The protest is real. The staff over there really lacked the equipment, but I did not participate in the protest because I am at a small hospital where there was no shortage of protective gear at that time."

 

Source: https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30385441

 

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[Enoon]

 

It would be nice to hear what a US nurse in Thailand says about what they see around themself.........

 

.........after they've being guaranteed immunity from prosecution, intimidation or expulsion.

 

 

 

Edited April 5, 2020 by Enoon

[Yadon Toploy]

Yeh Thailand better because weather and masks.

 

 

Bored with these Thai-centric self-congratulatory nonsense news articles that capitalise on other countries' misfortune. 

 

 

[tifino]

9 minutes ago, Enoon said:

 

It would be nice to hear what a US nurse in Thailand says about what they see around them.........

 

.........after they've being guaranteed immunity from prosecution, intimidation or expulsion.

 

 

 

yes... it is a problem (for her) when the half-chinese DNA

of those with their finger on the reaction trigger...

 - is really beginning to emanate from the current lineage... 

 

ultimate loyalty to the chinese heritage cause, and mannerisms cannot be forever concealed

[Thailand]

Assumimg that Thailand is not simply at the beginning of the infection.

[kevin612]

I doubt it. Many Thais afraid of the covid 19. However, they fear more that money is running out and have nothing to eat.

[unamazedloso]

so go back to work in your own country then! Oh yeh the $ and freedom.

[OneMoreFarang]

1 hour ago, Jonathan Fairfield said:

A Thai nurse who works at a small hospital in New York tells a depressing story of gloom and death and considers Thailand to be much better off.

Americans have Trump.

Thais have Prayut.

nuff said

 

[hydraides]

Trump refusing to wear a mask......................How dumb can you get.

 

Prayut wears a mask...At least give him that

 

If you are a leader of a country..................It is your responsibility to LEAD by example. Trump refusing to wear a mask is just crazy

 

I know there are conflicting reports on how effective wearing a mask but better safe than sorry. I am sure its effective to at least some degree. 

[sammieuk1]

16 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Americans have Trump.

Thais have Prayut.

nuff said

 

Sure that comparison is in everyone's head????

[dcnx]

Nurse who is obviously too stupid to understand what exponential growth means and that Thailand is just getting started. 
 

The propaganda department is working over time.

[Misterwhisper]

2 hours ago, Enoon said:

 

It would be nice to hear what a US nurse in Thailand says about what they see around themself.........

 

.........after they've being guaranteed immunity from prosecution, intimidation or expulsion.

 

 

 

And only if nursing weren't on the long, long, long, long list of occupations prohibited to foreigners. 

[CLW]

Ask this nurse again in two weeks or a month from now. When the virus is past it's incubation period of the exodus to the countryside. 

 

I've read another two articles in German newspaper that sounded like propaganda, too. Written from some journalists that have been in Thailand for holidays just before everything was closed down. 

[lexilis]

The comments on this thread are utterly stupid.

[Puchaiyank]

11 minutes ago, lexilis said:

The comments on this thread are utterly stupid.

Not only the comments!  

[Puchaiyank]

"better off than people in New York"'

 

Where in the world are people NOT better off than being in NY?

 

Some would say being dead is better than living in NY...

[bannork]

So many posters upset the number of deaths and cases in Thailand are miniscule compared to the West.

'It's the lack of testing'

'Just wait 2 weeks when all the workers have returned upcountry, then you'll see the exponential growth.'

Maybe the hot weather is a major inhibitor, which combined with the current clampdown on social contact and the space available upcountry, has led to the low numbers of infections anddeaths 

[mauGR1]

14 minutes ago, bannork said:

So many posters upset the number of deaths and cases in Thailand are miniscule compared to the West.

'It's the lack of testing'

'Just wait 2 weeks when all the workers have returned upcountry, then you'll see the exponential growth.'

Maybe the hot weather is a major inhibitor, which combined with the current clampdown on social contact and the space available upcountry, has led to the low numbers of infections anddeaths 

Perhaps, as a few scientific studies are saying, the number of asymptomatic carriers is huge everywhere, then it could be that, on average, Thais have good antibodies.

[gunderhill]

4 hours ago, Jonathan Fairfield said:

Also, foreigners do not agree to wear mask like in Thailand, where one has to wear a mask.

Let's  just  slip  that  in there  eh Nation.

[White Christmas13]

What a load of bull in Australia's north it is about 37 at the moment and had

many cases the last days.

[gunderhill]

4 minutes ago, mauGR1 said:

Perhaps, as a few scientific studies are saying, the number of asymptomatic carriers is huge everywhere, then it could be that, on average, Thais have good antibodies.

It  will be interesting later when it's all  passed to get some real scientific  answers on a lot of questions such as face  masks, climate, and immunity. There's  so  much BS going around  now it's almost  impossible to  believe anything, or  anyone.

[mauGR1]

2 minutes ago, gunderhill said:

It  will be interesting later when it's all  passed to get some real scientific  answers on a lot of questions such as face  masks, climate, and immunity. There's  so  much BS going around  now it's almost  impossible to  believe anything, or  anyone.

Well, it might surprise you, but after nearly 4 weeks in isolation, reading news and TVF the whole day, something starts to make sense to me.

[DavisH]

12 minutes ago, mauGR1 said:

Perhaps, as a few scientific studies are saying, the number of asymptomatic carriers is huge everywhere, then it could be that, on average, Thais have good antibodies.

The vast majority of asymptomatic carriers are actually pre-symptomatic. At this time they are most contagious, hence this is why everyone shoudl wear masks. This is unlike the situation with SARS, were they were most contagious when they had symptoms. 

 

[mauGR1]

2 minutes ago, DavisH said:

The vast majority of asymptomatic carriers are actually pre-symptomatic. At this time they are most contagious, hence this is why everyone shoudl wear masks. This is unlike the situation with SARS, were they were most contagious when they had symptoms. 

 

While i agree that everyone should wear masks when going out, i am not sure about your 1rst statement.

Afaik many asymptomatic stay asymptomatic, though i don't know for how long they can be contagious.

[DavisH]

33 minutes ago, bannork said:

So many posters upset the number of deaths and cases in Thailand are miniscule compared to the West.

'It's the lack of testing'

'Just wait 2 weeks when all the workers have returned upcountry, then you'll see the exponential growth.'

Maybe the hot weather is a major inhibitor, which combined with the current clampdown on social contact and the space available upcountry, has led to the low numbers of infections anddeaths 

About 8-9% of tests on persons under investigation come back positive, at this time. Unless hundreds of people ar dying at home, not being tested for covid, and then cremated - which I doubt, then I would accept the current statisitics. Sure, there could be thousands of pre-symptomatic people walking around, but hospitals have no reason to test them. I don't expect them to either, given that testing solution should not be wasted.  The median age of positive cases is in the low 30's as this is the age of people who tend to travel a lot, go drinking together, etc. Elderly Thais tend to stay home more than compared to those in western countries. 

[DavisH]

15 minutes ago, mauGR1 said:

While i agree that everyone should wear masks when going out, i am not sure about your 1rst statement.

Afaik many asymptomatic stay asymptomatic, though i don't know for how long they can be contagious.

Some stay that way, but I've been trying to keep up with the current research on that (read something about it yesterday, but don't remember the link). I know some stay asymptomatic, my understanding is that most will develop symptoms, even if they are very mild, such as a cough. If you see something to the contrary, please post it. A South Korean doctor mentioned about 20% of cases being asymptomatic but did not mention about them becoming symptomatic later. I think the other study was from Singapore which suggested that "a few" of 20 asymptomatic patients did not develop symptoms. From what I can gather, there could have been asymptomatic spreaders in churches around the world (and the boxing ring here) - the virus being shed through shouting and singing. This also appears to be the case at the football match in Italy. 

[mauGR1]

3 minutes ago, DavisH said:

I know some stay asymptomatic, my understanding is that most will develop symptoms, even if they are very mild, such as a cough. If you see something to the contrary, please post it.

I read a few articles everyday, unfortunately mass-testing is impossible, thus we cannot have enough data at the moment.

A recent theory suggested that many millions in Italy could be infected, and mostly asymptomatic.

Sorry no link.

[metisdead]

Some troll posts and replies have been removed. 

[steven100]

5 hours ago, Jonathan Fairfield said:

Thais better off than people in New York' during Covid-19 outbreak

yes i'm sure you are,  because your from thailand right ......   

[yellowboat]

The comparison is use by petty, soulless people, politicians, to blatantly advance their own interests.  Looking for a junta pat on the back.