660,000 COVID-19 “high-risk” people under watch of health volunteers

[Matzzon]

1 hour ago, scubascuba3 said:

Very unlikely, like other countries, with all the lockdowns, a high number of business closures and unemployment is here

Yes, like you say! Like all countries with all the lockdowns. The difference I am referring to is the amount of deaths. You chose to not see that as minimal damage??? Why?

[scubascuba3]

21 minutes ago, Matzzon said:

Yes, like you say! Like all countries with all the lockdowns. The difference I am referring to is the amount of deaths. You chose to not see that as minimal damage??? Why?

The economic catastrophe could cause more deaths along with ruined lives. Remind yourself of facebook, post after post after post of desperate Thais who can't pay their rent or buy food, it will only get worse over the next few weeks.

 

As for Corona deaths, unfortunately people don't believe the numbers but there was a personal account on FB of a guy catching Corona and the medical care he got and it did seem very thorough and professional. Maybe they should publicise what they do

[Deez]

"Health Volunteers"? They don't get paid? 

[Olmate]

25 minutes ago, Matzzon said:

Yes, like you say! Like all countries with all the lockdowns. The difference I am referring to is the amount of deaths. You chose to not see that as minimal damage??? Why?

Why didn’t,t you clarify that in your reply then? Hardly minimal to those families in any event. How many folk do you know who are effected by the economic side, no doubt it is most. If Thailand can curtail the economic disaster on top of the health outcome it can certainly take a bow ????‍♀️ 

[RJRS1301]

1 minute ago, Olmate said:

Got it now , I thought you were being critical of  untrained unqualified unpaid volunteers helping out .

There was no where in my post that I indicated any criticism in any way to any group of people.

 

[JCP108]

2 hours ago, tonray said:

Some towns (my friend lives in Tat Phanom) are requiring health certificates before you are allowed to venture out of your home. A volunteer will accompany you to the clinic, and after you get cert you can then go out to Tesco or whereever. Crazy stuff. Being watched like lab rats...I'm not sure if it's because he is identified as foreigner but he needs to show passport stamps on demand to prove he has been here and not traveled recently. I know his wife also needed cert but maybe because identified as living in same house as foreigner.

Is this true? Is it that the person is required to be on total lockdown simply because he is a farang? Did he recently travel? This is the first I've heard of farangs being put on total lockdown simply because of status and required to have a health certificate to go out of the house. Anyone else encountered this?

[tonray]

3 hours ago, tonray said:

Some towns (my friend lives in Tat Phanom) are requiring health certificates before you are allowed to venture out of your home. A volunteer will accompany you to the clinic, and after you get cert you can then go out to Tesco or whereever. Crazy stuff. Being watched like lab rats...I'm not sure if it's because he is identified as foreigner but he needs to show passport stamps on demand to prove he has been here and not traveled recently. I know his wife also needed cert but maybe because identified as living in same house as foreigner.

Ok...I got a further clarification. My friend and wife recently returned from another province and were self quarantined for 14 days....that is why they then needed health cert before they could leave the house.

[Olmate]

11 minutes ago, tonray said:

Ok...I got a further clarification. My friend and wife recently returned from another province and were self quarantined for 14 days....that is why they then needed health cert before they could leave the house.

That’s the detail you should have stated first up! So nothing new then, same procedure in many other countries also

[Almer]

4 hours ago, BigBadGeordie said:

I live in a small village in Isaan, the healthcare volunteers, around 8 of them, do an excellent job. They have monitored the returnees, myself included, twice a day during the 14 day self-isolation period. They have made cloth masks, distributed hand sanitiser and offered advice and support.

A checkpoint was ordered by the Tambon Admin, this is staffed by healthcare volunteers 24/7.

Without the volunteer network in my opinion things would be a lot worse.

Credit where credit is due!

Well done.

All sounds good, are the checkpoints still in place or removed over songran?

[heybuz]

Does this mean thailand has 600,000 cases of the virus they are now admitting to,?

[CharlieH]

6 minutes ago, heybuz said:

Does this mean thailand has 600,000 cases of the virus they are now admitting to,?

 

No it does not. 

 

"Dr. Tharet Krasnairawiwong, director-general of the Health Service Support Department, said today that this group of people includes 59,178 returning from abroad, 463,756 arriving in the provinces from Bangkok and those linked to the boxing stadium and entertainment venue clusters".

[CharlieH]

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[smedly]

6 hours ago, webfact said:

On the resort island of Phuket, health workers have screened over 3,000 people

screened (temp check) not tested 

 

another diversion trying to indicate that they are doing something

[JAG]

4 hours ago, RJRS1301 said:

I am always amazed at the function of so many "volunteers" in Thailand from emergency response teams to policing, and so many other functions in between, now health monitoring. Wonder what training they receive, and why are these people volunteers rather than salaried?

 

4 hours ago, RJRS1301 said:

I am always amazed at the function of so many "volunteers" in Thailand from emergency response teams to policing, and so many other functions in between, now health monitoring. Wonder what training they receive, and why are these people volunteers rather than salaried?

There seems to be quite a strong tradition of "volunteering" particularly in rural communities. Up here in Chiang Rai, away from the city, virtually all the first aid/ ambulance services are provided by various volunteer organisations, as are much of the police (non crime fighting) activities - traffic control, escorting funeral processions and so on. They are the visible ones  there are others such as the health care volunteers.

 

Of course the uniforms and perceived power and authority may, for some, be an attraction. Thais are a gregarious bunch, and they love to be part of a gang, if that gang is providing a needed service, that makes them feel better. There is also the element of gaining merit as a Buddhist, Equipment and training may not be as good as you (and possibly they) wish, but without them there would be no other service. Occasionally I give some appropriate English lessons to my local " Rescue Foundation" (ambulance) volunteers. They are enthusiastic, committed, actually quite knowledgeable, and the only resource in the area.

 

I had a bad year last year, a couple of accidents which required me to be carted off to hospital - nothing serious. On both occasions the volunteer ambulance crews were excellent, Without them I would have been even more knackered!

[ThailandRyan]

6 hours ago, Matzzon said:

See what they have done. Now we will see how long time it takes for the first one to complain about to small checks, monitoring and control. They have visited almost 12 million people, and identified 660 000 considered high risk that are under monitoring. And the is only what volunteers have been doing, which means they in fact have been identifying many many more. Who is going to be the first to make this positive news into a negative thai bashing thread?

Good work again! This is one of the many reasons why Thailand is coming out of this mess with minimal damage.

Maybe I have read too much into the story, and I wonder if those 660,000 have already visited a hospital and were sent home with paracetamol, to help their fevers, and then never went back, and that's why they are being watched.  But what do I know, probably just wanting to see and visit everyone to ensure we are all healthy....whatever

[Grumpy John]

A lot of people here do volunteer work to gain good merit.  The well healed give a bag of useful things to the poor to make merit.  Mare came home last year with a bag of stuff,  soap, toothpaste, toothbrush,  powder, a small bag of rice,  tinned fish, a bottle of oil, a torch and....a few other things......

[Cake Monster]

4 hours ago, BigBadGeordie said:

I live in a small village in Isaan, the healthcare volunteers, around 8 of them, do an excellent job. They have monitored the returnees, myself included, twice a day during the 14 day self-isolation period. They have made cloth masks, distributed hand sanitiser and offered advice and support.

A checkpoint was ordered by the Tambon Admin, this is staffed by healthcare volunteers 24/7.

Without the volunteer network in my opinion things would be a lot worse.

Credit where credit is due!

Well done.

The local Health Volunteers visited my SIL,s House last week.

They distributed hand Sanitiser and face masks....... well to be correct, a ( as in One ) face Mask Size V Small - for a child ( no children in the House ) and a 30 Ml tube of Sanitiser.

They also handed out advice about Covid 19 protection to the 5 Adults living in the House.

Maybe things will improve 

[dinsdale]

6 hours ago, Matzzon said:

See what they have done. Now we will see how long time it takes for the first one to complain about to small checks, monitoring and control. They have visited almost 12 million people, and identified 660 000 considered high risk that are under monitoring. And the is only what volunteers have been doing, which means they in fact have been identifying many many more. Who is going to be the first to make this positive news into a negative thai bashing thread?

Good work again! This is one of the many reasons why Thailand is coming out of this mess with minimal damage.

Ok! So how many of these were actually tested for CCP-covid-19 antigen? Asympotomatic goes un-noticed if not tested. Phuket: Screened 3,000 people. This is good. What about the other 657,000?

[RJRS1301]

1 hour ago, smedly said:

screened (temp check) not tested 

 

another diversion trying to indicate that they are doing something

I would imagine an elevated temprature would then trigger another response from a person authorised to either further elvauate or test.

It is sensible and they ARE actually doing something by the reading of some posters

 

[Yadon Toploy]

This stinks of a PR firm release.

[smedly]

57 minutes ago, RJRS1301 said:

they ARE actually doing something by the reading of some posters

really like what exactly

 

how many have they actually bothered to test ?

 

seems they prefer just to bury it

[Matzzon]

1 hour ago, dinsdale said:

Ok! So how many of these were actually tested for CCP-covid-19 antigen? Asympotomatic goes un-noticed if not tested. Phuket: Screened 3,000 people. This is good. What about the other 657,000?

Your question seems rather irrelevant when you look at the results according Thailand fighting Covid-19. Can you please bring up some countries in Europe and America that have done a better job? Seems like they test much more as following your idea of a better way to do it. Then please also explain why they have so many infection and deaths?

[Matzzon]

5 minutes ago, smedly said:

really like what exactly

 

how many have they actually bothered to test ?

 

seems they prefer just to bury it

How can they feel any need to bury something that just lives in your and some other posters mind. It´s impossible to hide things that doesn´t exist.

[Eibot]

8 hours ago, Matzzon said:

Who is going to be the first to make this positive news into a negative thai bashing thread?

You ????

[Matzzon]

2 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

Maybe I have read too much into the story, and I wonder if those 660,000 have already visited a hospital and were sent home with paracetamol, to help their fevers, and then never went back, and that's why they are being watched.  But what do I know, probably just wanting to see and visit everyone to ensure we are all healthy....whatever

I would think that they visit around 12 million people and that 660 000 of them have a bigger risk. Maybe already have different chronichal diseases as well as some might be old.

You have read one story of a russian and his GF, and then automatically believe it and think they are doing that on 660 000 more. Really mature! Do you also believe that if one person win the lottery, you will do that too?

[Matzzon]

7 minutes ago, Eibot said:

You ????

Eeeeh?

[dinsdale]

4 minutes ago, Matzzon said:

Your question seems rather irrelevant when you look at the results according Thailand fighting Covid-19. Can you please bring up some countries in Europe and America that have done a better job? Seems like they test much more as following your idea of a better way to do it. Then please also explain why they have so many infection and deaths?

More infections and more deaths? Maybe those countries are giving a more accurate assessment although many experts are saying that numbers everywhere are higher than we know. More testing as even children know means finding more infections. Thailand has a very low testing rate. A better job means to actually find infected people hence higher numbers. 

p.s. Don't believe everything you read especially from those who have a track record in bending the truth.

[ThailandRyan]

30 minutes ago, Matzzon said:

I would think that they visit around 12 million people and that 660 000 of them have a bigger risk. Maybe already have different chronichal diseases as well as some might be old.

You have read one story of a russian and his GF, and then automatically believe it and think they are doing that on 660 000 more. Really mature! Do you also believe that if one person win the lottery, you will do that too?

Never saw the Russian and his GF story, I have read plenty of accounts of folks being seen at the hospitals, not tested, had a fever, given medicine, told to go home and isolate and return if the condition worsens.  Family members in Udon have had the same experiences there as well, so I don't understand the:

 

"You have read one story of a russian and his GF, and then automatically believe it and think they are doing that on 660 000 more. Really mature! Do you also believe that if one person win the lottery, you will do that too?" comment. 

 

My post was a question in regards to the possibility of the number being published being those that may have been to a hospital.

[natway09]

Had a staff member & a friend (who does not work, kept woman) decided to go home to thieir respective own homes  after 12 days in Bangkok in self isolation  (got the form from Hospital)

Both told no contact with the village for 12 days & being watched 

So, yes there are staff or volunteers out there doing their work.

In the end Prayut is right it is up to every individual to do the right thing to help.

 

 

[Matzzon]

6 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

Never saw the Russian and his GF story, I have read plenty of accounts of folks being seen at the hospitals, not tested, had a fever, given medicine, told to go home and isolate and return if the condition worsens.  Family members in Udon have had the same experiences there as well, so I don't understand the:

 

"You have read one story of a russian and his GF, and then automatically believe it and think they are doing that on 660 000 more. Really mature! Do you also believe that if one person win the lottery, you will do that too?" comment. 

 

My post was a question in regards to the possibility of the number being published being those that may have been to a hospital.

Ok, if you heard that it´s many that have been sent home with medicine and told to isolate, then they do that because of need for resources for other that are already very ill. If they take medicine and isolate as told, then they can get better or go to the hospital if get worse. I guess you will find your answer to your question somewhere in that.

By the way, have you also heard many of the ones they sent home, say that they got worse and died or didn´t get help? I don´t think so, which means that the system works.