Safety guarantee added to lure tourists back to ‘Amazing Thailand

[3NUMBAS]

News

Coronavirus: Germany's rate of COVID-19 infections grows after lockdown eased

Sky News•29 April 2020

 

 

Germany faces the prospect of having to restore stricter lockdown measures as its number and rate of coronavirus infections grew again.

Hailed as among Europe's most successful in tackling the pandemic, the country began relaxing restrictions on 20 April to allow small businesses to open as the reproduction rate of the virus fell.

Based on the average number of people each infected person transmits coronavirus to, the rate - known as 'R' - had fallen to 0.7.

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/coronavirus-germanys-rate-covid-19-infections-grows-lockdown-200700262.html

 

[DrTuner]

19 minutes ago, belfast3 said:

Why are so many people who hate Thailand on a forum about Thailand? ????

They came here when going was still good and got trapped. I'm studying on how to make a bamboo raft to escape Thailand, but I think I need to find Snake Plissken to escape Pattaya.

Edited April 29, 2020 by DrTuner

[3NUMBAS]

3 hours ago, chiangmaitraveler said:

Thailand will be throw back for about 15 years. And the rest of the world wouldnt do much better. So forget about mass tourism for a long time. And that because of this mass hysteria. Crazy world.

BA has just laid of 12000 staff and  unlikely  they will be back any time soon..air travel will vanish for years to come and will take many years to rebuild confidence ..easyjet are unlikely to fly again ..airlines wont be able to buy new planes with no income so factories will close .airbus and boeing are doomed for years ..planes may have small numbers of pax ..airports will be doomed with few pax passing thru

[andux]

On 4/28/2020 at 6:27 PM, Alex 012 said:

And find a way of reducing the girls overcharging for opening their legs, with mostly rubbish service.

 

How exactly do girls overcharge in Thailand?

[belfast3]

10 minutes ago, 3NUMBAS said:

BA has just laid of 12000 staff and  unlikely  they will be back any time soon..air travel will vanish for years to come and will take many years to rebuild confidence ..easyjet are unlikely to fly again ..airlines wont be able to buy new planes with no income so factories will close .airbus and boeing are doomed for years ..planes may have small numbers of pax ..airports will be doomed with few pax passing thru

Thanks for the doomsday scenario, have you considered a job on Sky News? ????

[ThailandRyan]

16 minutes ago, 3NUMBAS said:

BA has just laid of 12000 staff and  unlikely  they will be back any time soon..air travel will vanish for years to come and will take many years to rebuild confidence ..easyjet are unlikely to fly again ..airlines wont be able to buy new planes with no income so factories will close .airbus and boeing are doomed for years ..planes may have small numbers of pax ..airports will be doomed with few pax passing thru

Wow, nothing positive in your post at all except for the positively dire news.  Time to go pull the rug over my head and hide now......

[Pattaya46]

18 minutes ago, DrTuner said:

37 minutes ago, belfast3 said:

Why are so many people who hate Thailand on a forum about Thailand? ????

They came here when going was still good and got trapped. //

I would like to see a flag on this forum showing if each post is made from inside or outside Thailand.

I think that many of most negative posts or from people who are not in Thailand... ??

 

BTW: I am not in Thailand ???? 

I was in holidays in France when Thailand closed it's border. Blocked in France ????

[Tony125]

On 4/28/2020 at 6:58 PM, sezze said:

I agree , families won't be coming any time soon , not this year , even if they can come . Single man are the ones who are less afraid to go further from home , so they will be the 1st people returning . I expect real long haul tourism , like before not to return until vaccin or medication are found and this thing is out of the air for at least 6 months . This means , i think at least 2 years from now , and that is a absolute minimum .

Oxford University and India may have vacine before September

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/oxford-university-researchers-testing-coronavirus-vaccine-that-could-be-ready-soon/vi-BB13mICB

[3NUMBAS]

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/apr/29/airlines-may-not-recover-from-covid-19-crisis-for-five-years-says-airbus

 

The planemaker Airbus has warned that the aviation industry could take as long as five years to recover to the levels seen before the coronavirus pandemic, as customers such as British Airways try to secure their survival by cutting thousands of jobs.

The Airbus chief executive, Guillaume Faury, warned on Wednesday it could take “three to five years” for passengers to be as willing to fly as before the crisis.

Faury said: “We are now in the midst of the gravest crisis the aerospace industry has ever known.”

The pandemic has plunged the airline industry into chaos, with passenger flight revenues all but wiped out. British Airways, a major Airbus customer, on Tuesday evening announced plans to cut 12,000 jobs – almost a third of its workforce – in the face of slump in demand.

 

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Brian Strutton, the general secretary of the British Airline Pilots’ Association (Balpa), on Wednesday told BBC radio that job cuts had not been expected at this stage, given the uncertainties around the outlook for aviation.

He added that a “lack of government support” was one of the reasons cited by British Airways for the redundancies. Parent company International Airlines Group’s other airlines, such as Iberia and Vueling in Spain and Ireland’s Aer Lingus, have not yet announced job cuts.

During the first three months of the year, Airbus was unable to deliver more than 60 planes to customers because of quarantine restrictions. That number is expected to rise as airlines negotiate delays to orders in an attempt to ease financial pressures.

Airbus’s core profits fell by 49% in the first quarter of the year to €281m, while revenues slumped by almost €2bn to €10.6bn.

[RedPill]

2 hours ago, zaZa9 said:

Did you look at the pic you posted ?

Heres your "armed vigilantes" , 

Utterly terrifying arent they !

Did you look at the 'other' tens and tens of posts with similar slingshots pics and message 'fck off tourists' on that page?

That couple are only the admin of that FB group, followed by 500k plus ppl.

 

A Phuket page, out of all places in Thailand! ... yes ... fck off tourists, no more for Phuket, for years to come. I hope they get what they were asking for.

 

That was not just one couple, that was a long series of posts with many ppl. I know, a minority ... nevertheless ... fkck Phuket, better.

They don't deserve any 'easy' tourist money ... let them rip each other off among themselves, jetski guy in a Tuk Tuk for 500 baht/100 meter journey and the tuk tuk driver on a jet ski, for 40,000 Baht fixing an existing scratch. And let nature recover.

 

 

Edited April 29, 2020 by RedPill

[the guest]

Yeah they are dreaming of course. Maybe in a couple of years.

[Janner1]

On 4/28/2020 at 12:01 PM, Thaiwrath said:

The normally optimistic TAT man is inconsolable.

Yep had to tell the truth for once

[Teee]

1 hour ago, 3NUMBAS said:

BA has just laid of 12000 staff and  unlikely  they will be back any time soon..air travel will vanish for years to come and will take many years to rebuild confidence ..easyjet are unlikely to fly again ..airlines wont be able to buy new planes with no income so factories will close .airbus and boeing are doomed for years ..planes may have small numbers of pax ..airports will be doomed with few pax passing thru

Where do you get your info about Easyjet not flying again?? Source?

 

Fake news!!! 

[mauGR1]

2 hours ago, zaZa9 said:

Did you look at the pic you posted ?

Heres your "armed vigilantes" , 

Utterly terrifying arent they !

5555

Get a grip.

Any idiot can post nowadays , thus Im  stuck with answering one.

Let me tell you theres hardly any xenophobic , dangerous  Thai left here in Phuket ... they all went back home to Northern Thailand when the work dried up.

OH NO !

 

So ... quick !

Open  ever so careflly the curtain to the darkened room you tap away in , take a furtive look outside , then  grab your blunderbuster ... and imagine ... you can just hear those  jungle drums, cant you  ... 555

Although i don't share the alarmism and the panic about that fb post, i have read some post on that page, and to deny that there aren't xenophobic feelings around, is also not correct.

I have to admit that, in the years, i have seen enough westerners behaving like d**ks, to understand why some locals may feel that way.

[RedPill]

17 minutes ago, mauGR1 said:

Although i don't share the alarmism and the panic about that fb post, i have read some post on that page, and to deny that there aren't xenophobic feelings around, is also not correct.

I have to admit that, in the years, i have seen enough westerners behaving like d**ks, to understand why some locals may feel that way.

you know, there are so many things not allowed to talk about in open in thailand.

 

Why not put everything on the table ... for sure there is a balance and truth in everything ... which can be discussed. 

 

But god forbid ... no talk about anything negative ... on top of all the other stuff we are already not allowed to openly put on the table.

 

Ok, just all good, no rip-offs in phuket ... all back to normal. The slingshots happy the tourists are back, get their easy money again, the tuk tuks continue as they like, the jetskis also ... nature gets destroyed for more and more profit .... etc. etc. 

 

No negative posts ... all ppl shut up ... rose tinted glasses on and all hunky dory ;-)))

 

Ok, I say this a bit in a sarcastic way. But why is it not allowed to pinpoint and hight light a group doing this and the rip offs going on in Phuket, for more than a decade? And a TAT which is putting it all into a even more rose tinted package? 

 

Just sit there and say: I love Thailand ... yes, I can do this, also.

 

btw ... funny, just talking about rose tinted glasses ... and then this ad with that cat pops up ????

 

Edited April 29, 2020 by RedPill

[mauGR1]

6 minutes ago, RedPill said:

you know, there are so many things not allowed to talk about in open in thailand.

 

Why not put everything on the table ... for sure there is a balance and truth in everything ... which can be discussed. 

 

But god forbid ... no talk about anything negative ... on top of all the other stuff we are already not allowed to openly put on the table.

 

Ok, just all good, no rip-offs in phuket ... all back to normal. The slingshots happy the tourists are back, get their easy money again, the tuk tuks continue as they like, the jetskis also ... nature gets destroyed for more and more profit .... etc. etc. 

 

No negative posts ... all ppl shut up ... rose tinted glasses on and all hunky dory ;-)))

 

Ok, I say this a bit in a sarcastic way. But why is it not allowed to pinpoint and hight light a group doing this and the rip offs going on in Phuket, for more than a decade? And a TAT which is putting it all into a even more rose tinted package? 

 

Just sit there and say: I love Thailand ... yes, I can do this, also.

 

 

 

I have never been to Phuket, perhaps 30 years ago it was still a nice place to be.

We have to consider the fact that too many tourists have irremediably spoiled that place.

I am a foreigner living in Thailand, i often try to see things from the point of view of the locals, i can understand the frustration of the good people having to deal with bad people.

The same goes if i see things with the eyes of a tourist, i can understand the frustration of the good tourists having to deal with bad locals.

In the current situation, with no tourist money in sight for many months to come, i think we should be more careful than usual, a hungry man is an angry man.

[RedPill]

4 minutes ago, mauGR1 said:

I have never been to Phuket, perhaps 30 years ago it was still a nice place to be.

We have to consider the fact that too many tourists have irremediably spoiled that place.

I am a foreigner living in Thailand, i often try to see things from the point of view of the locals, i can understand the frustration of the good people having to deal with bad people.

The same goes if i see things with the eyes of a tourist, i can understand the frustration of the good tourists having to deal with bad locals.

In the current situation, with no tourist money in sight for many months to come, i think we should be more careful than usual, a hungry man is an angry man.

I fully agree with you ... that's how I generally also see this.

 

What I don't like is when ppl jump on someone for mentioning something negative, where we already can't really talk in detail about things in public.

 

That's not against TVF ... they just follow the rules and have to do this. That's absolutely correct. And most ppl respect this, else get a TVF holiday ????

 

How many discussions on here would go 'much' different, and in a more clear way, if everybody would be allowed to speak up freely.

 

Alas, not happening in Thailand. We just accept this. But then we don't need fellow 'guests' in this country to try and put an additional 'cap of silence' on. It's just a discussion with all points on the table. Not only half the stories.

 

About Phuket, been there many times ... with each visit, it went worse, very fast ... until I now don't even go anymore, haven't been there since 4 years now. Not interested to see how it is today. For sure not much better.

 

 

 

[timewilltell]

Lure is the perfect word for this place - a shiny thing to attract something by pretending to be wonderful and shiny but in reality a trap that leads to being caught, abused and the bigger you are the more likely to end in death.

[mauGR1]

4 minutes ago, RedPill said:

What I don't like is when ppl jump on someone for mentioning something negative, where we already can't really talk in detail about things in public.

 

That's not against TVF ... they just follow the rules and have to do this. That's absolutely correct. And most ppl respect this, else get a TVF holiday

Agree, it makes me sad to hear negative experiences, but in the same time, it's good to have some idea of what's going on here.

It's easy to criticise, but s**t can happen to everyone, if one's not careful, or just unlucky.

I was warned by an expat friend on my first trip to Thailand: "This is not paradise", but then, there is no paradise on this planet, we're just trying to make the best of it.

[ericthai]

all the girls in Thailand and they choose this one. 

[RedPill]

5 minutes ago, mauGR1 said:

Agree, it makes me sad to hear negative experiences, but in the same time, it's good to have some idea of what's going on here.

It's easy to criticise, but s**t can happen to everyone, if one's not careful, or just unlucky.

I was warned by an expat friend on my first trip to Thailand: "This is not paradise", but then, there is no paradise on this planet, we're just trying to make the best of it.

That's why I stopped joining larger groups of foreigners, because the discussion will always get into negative, very fast ... and stays like this for the rest of the evening. (Or be more selective with whom you socialize and have a great time, plenty of nice ppl live here.) 

 

But a random bigger group of foreigners, will always have these negative stories. 

 

A forum however, is a bit of a different thing ... we don't need to cheer us up and pretend it's all so super great ... it's a discussion forum, it's about information, and it's good to have 'all' facts, points and opinions on the table. But actually, most of the talk here will never get cleared up, because we can't speak up in public ???? It's like talking around the hot porridge. Everybody knows why, but no one can say it ????

 

 

 

 

[ParkerN]

On 4/28/2020 at 7:08 PM, edwardandtubs said:

There are currently armed vigilante mobs in Phuket posting photos on Facebook of themselves targeting foreigners with the slogan 'stay at home <deleted> tourist or get out of my country'. How can safety be guaranteed with people like that around?

Good question. But a better question would be is who is supporting them?

 

Anyone who knows Thais, knows that they will do very little against the flow unless they have a nod and wink from a pooyay, Or some other kind of insurance to protect them against the consequences of the wheels falling off their wagon.

 

So who is supporting them? In Thailand, one should always anticipate and try to identify the unseen hand...

[ParkerN]

1 hour ago, RedPill said:

But actually, most of the talk here will never get cleared up, because we can't speak up in public

 

And there are various subjects which impinge on the matter but cannot be discussed for fear of the forums being accused of not taking into account which side of their bread is buttered and by whom it is buttered.

[Holmsedale25]

13 hours ago, RedPill said:

If all comes back to normal, I would love to see ppl seeing and remembering this. 

 

Phuket completely destroyed, nature wise and by corrupted & greedy 'businesses'

... after so many helped to re-build and send donations after the Tsunami. 

 

For this, I hate Phuket ... been back there 4 years ago and left after one night. So many other nice places and national parks in that area.

 

Sadly i agree. My first time in Thailand was a week in Phuket back in 1994. I loved it. Beautiful place, beaches, food, etc. Hotel was cheap but amazing for the price and the locals were an absolute friendly riot to be with. Roll on 20 odd years and greed, ignorance, racism, and pure stupidity have destroyed Phuket. Pattaya, Samui, Chiang Mai.... unfortunately all the bloody same. They know best...but they don't do they! The best resorts in Thailand now are run and owned by those who have the money and savie to travel abroad, see what tourists/travellers want, bring the ideas back and take it to the next level.

 

The amount of run down, poorly maintained, poorly managed and quite frankly shocking establishments that still claim to be the place to stay is astonishing and they all need a f**king size 10 up their backsides before anything improves in LOS

[Greg O]

They are total Lunatics ...they still haven't repatriated hundreds of Thai citizens yet extending the flight bans. Now China has announced deeply discounted flights on all of their international carriers...So just where do ya think these people are going to be "lured" from ? 

[Blumpie]

2 hours ago, timewilltell said:

Lure is the perfect word for this place - a shiny thing to attract something by pretending to be wonderful and shiny but in reality a trap that leads to being caught, abused and the bigger you are the more likely to end in death.

The sad thing is we are never going to be happy.  Going somewhere, doing something different doesn't usually help unless you're married to some horrid thing and get a divorce.  

 

 

[bbbbooboo]

Hmmm.... a synonym for amazing is unbelievable.Need we say more?TIT

[Morty T]

I asked my BIL if this " certificate " is going to be a problem, he said no, he would just find someone who's selling them. 

[SmartyMarty]

Daily joke. Keep em coming.

[Damrongsak]

17 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

Why not also give them a free amulet upon arrival for their Safety guarantee....

We have the one for renting motorbikes, and are working on ones for Covid and crossing a street safely.  (Am I wrong or does the motorbike amulet show two skeletons riding?)