Thailand could allow alcohol sales for two days before new ban is enforced

[Philipg114763]

The Royal Thai Government has launched a new 1111 hotline to receive complaints from foreigners in Thailand, every start calling this number over beer ban it should be allowed

[vogie]

What we have to do is to turn a negative situation into positive one and if Mohamid cannot go to the mountain the mountain must come to Mohamid. I have just ordered 16lbs of malt extract, what I do with it when I get it is anyones guess, but I'm sure I'll think of something.

[Russell17au]

4 minutes ago, 2long said:

Sadly, the central governments can't leave common sense to decide what's acceptable and what's not.

They need to have blanket rules, without exception or grey areas... in order to avoid ambiguity.

Like most on this forum, we're happy to enjoy a quiet drink in sensible ways, but the locals (the vast majority) only drink in groups.

Not only locals because even some farangs cannot abide by the restrictions because they think they are above the law.

[bannork]

29 minutes ago, vogie said:

That's because a beer lasts longer.

A hard decision if forced to choose between mia and beer.

[Russell17au]

10 minutes ago, Number 6 said:

Powers that be are afraid of lifting lockdown bc the economy is ruined and 8m people unemployed. Fear perhaps is looking to stir things up.

 

Fear is adding cheap lao khao to above will only inflame situation.

 

One thing certain. There's no plan and huge concerns from powers be.

 

Given that Thailand has arguably one of lowest infection rates it's impossible to rationalize the lockdown - and no one's even tried. Therein lies your answer.

Maybe it is because of the lockdown and the ban on alcohol sales that has given Thailand the low infection rate and helped to keep it low. Think about that.

Edited April 29, 2020 by Russell17au

[Eibot]

Flea markets and wet markets aloud, but you ban alcohol to prevent social gatherings? Why do they always have to overcomplicate things. Just let people buy alcohol like every other country in the world.

[JeffersLos]

Only open alcohol sales to non-Buddhists. 

[Rookiescot]

7 minutes ago, Skallywag said:

Will be in line 11 am Friday morning.  No worries, may have to steal the cart and push it home as I dont have a car or want to pay for a taxi.  will return it later????

When you are finished with a trolley cart tradition dictates it should be disposed of in the nearest river or canal.

I do hope you will respect this long established custom.

[Number 6]

Just now, Russell17au said:

Maybe it is because of the lockdown and the ban on alcohol sales that has given Thailand the low infection rate. Think about that.

Correlation does not necessitate causation especially when Thailand does not test outside hospitals. The numbers aren't even close to being correct.

 

But if this were the case drinking alcohol does not raise opportunities to contract covid. Nothing. Rather the police due to incompetence and corruption cannot keep clubs closed and people off the streets so we have draconian measures not taken in any other country.

 

Because all Thai believe laws are for thee but not for me.

[Rookiescot]

8 minutes ago, vogie said:

What we have to do is to turn a negative situation into positive one and if Mohamid cannot go to the mountain the mountain must come to Mohamid. I have just ordered 16lbs of malt extract, what I do with it when I get it is anyones guess, but I'm sure I'll think of something.

Making Marmite ?

[OneeyedJohn]

I just popped out on my bike to check with our wholesaler, a couple of minutes away, he has no beer on display, but assured me he would have beer on Friday.

When I came back here there were over 20 new replies.

My current stock at home has a manufacture date of 180320.

[hotandsticky]

1 minute ago, Eibot said:

Flea markets and wet markets aloud, but you ban alcohol to prevent social gatherings? Why do they always have to overcomplicate things. Just let people buy alcohol like every other country in the world.

 

 

Every other country ?   I think not. 

 

 

I do agree that they should tackle people congregating in numbers rather than focus on alcohol sales. Even if they restricted selling hours.

[NCC1701A]

I don't drink but maybe I will buy 10 cases of Leo and put it in my living room and take a photo and put it on Thai Friendly.

 

In these difficult times it might work better than the photo of me standing in front of somebody else's Mercedes.   

[2long]

Oh, the irony... ????????????

[Russell17au]

2 minutes ago, Number 6 said:

Correlation does not necessitate causation especially when Thailand does not test outside hospitals. The numbers aren't even close to being correct.

 

But if this were the case drinking alcohol does not raise opportunities to contract covid. Nothing. Rather the police due to incompetence and corruption cannot keep clubs closed and people off the streets so we have draconian measures not taken in any other country.

 

Because all Thai believe laws are for thee but not for me.

Many farangs have the same beliefs as the Thai's. "These laws are for thee but not for me" as has been proven many times both here in Thailand and every other country in the world with this virus.

[OneeyedJohn]

5 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

Making Marmite ?

Nah, he has to make beer first, marmite is a by product of making beer from water, yeast, hops and malted barley.

[fishtank]

12 minutes ago, Russell17au said:

Maybe it is because of the lockdown and the ban on alcohol sales that has given Thailand the low infection rate and helped to keep it low. Think about that.

Why did I not think of that. lol.

You are joking of course.????

[djayz]

2 hours ago, actonion said:

But  "many more" people are still  congregating at every street market in East Pattaya  and have done since the start of this virus...So why the ban?

To pressure certain people/breweries into contributing to the rolex, eh, sorry, submarine, eh, sorry covid fund? 

[steelepulse]

26 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

More about shifting stock than anything else. There will be tanks in the brewery that have been sitting full of beer that needs processed and bottled. Suspect it will be vile by now but they will not want to throw it away. Warehouse is already full because the wholesalers are closed so there it has sat with no-where to go.

This will allow the production chain to start moving again to clear those tanks and allow them to be cleaned.

Agreed.  There's going to be some nasty tasting beers here for the foreseeable future.  Right before the ban, I went to the local distributor and asked for the newest batch.  Dates on the boxes were Jan 31.  Imagine now how many older beers are sitting around in the heat getting worse by the day.

[Rookiescot]

3 minutes ago, OneeyedJohn said:

Nah, he has to make beer first, marmite is a by product of making beer from water, yeast, hops and malted barley.

Yes but I imagine he will throw the beer away in order to comply with current restrictions.

[Thomas J]

3 hours ago, webfact said:

Thailand’s Centre for Covid-19 Situation Administration (CCSA) has proposed allowing people a two day window to buy alcohol before a new ban is enforced. 

 

This makes no sense.  You would have crowds of people lining up shoulder to shoulder.  Also after the first hour or two the store would be depleted and though it would be legal to sell, they would not have any beer, wine, or liquor. 

[Digby Strong]

2 hours ago, 2long said:

There IS some sense in it. Read on...

Common sense would suggest that the reason for banning the booze is to prevent Somchais from sitting in groups and drinking, then after killing some brain cells going off to do other inappropriate things which would spread the virus, such as returning to hug and kiss family members.

Without 'generalising' I think it's fair to say that the government mainly target low-income Thai males as the target group to control in this case. From experience, these guys are completely incapable of buying in advance and rationing the booze for even a few days, never mind a month. This is partly because they don't have the money, and mainly because they can't control themselves or trust their buddies not to cheat. They drink all they have until it's gone.

In this sense, the 2-day window and a new ban makes sense, allowing expats and more wealthy to stock up and ration.

Yes, I understand the reasoning, here, but don't quite "get" the TIMING...

(a) we still don't know whether May public holidays, including that on Friday (Labor Day), are going to be cancelled (to encourage continued social distancing), and

(b) why just TWO days duration (maximum panic buying, minimum social distancing)? Authoritarian muscle flexing?? 

 

Liver applauding, but brain leans towards conjecture when in need of a beer!!

[LeamchabangLarry]

how many 630ml bottles are in a case?  is it 9 or 12?

[EVENKEEL]

2 hours ago, robblok said:

There is no sense in this you either extend the ban and not allow people to stock up so you get your goal of people having no alcohol to party or you don't ban it al. Because everyone with half a brain will stock up and make the ban useless. 

 

So do one of the two.. ban alcohol and not give people time to stock up or not ban it at all. 

Don't hate robbie

[Oldie]

20 minutes ago, NCC1701A said:

I don't drink but maybe I will buy 10 cases of Leo and put it in my living room and take a photo and put it on Thai Friendly.

 

In these difficult times it might work better than the photo of me standing in front of somebody else's Mercedes.   

I will look for you there and try to meet you ????

[vogie]

11 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

Yes but I imagine he will throw the beer away in order to comply with current restrictions.

Are you saying that you can make beer with malt.........well I never.

[vogie]

22 minutes ago, NCC1701A said:

I don't drink but maybe I will buy 10 cases of Leo and put it in my living room and take a photo and put it on Thai Friendly.

 

In these difficult times it might work better than the photo of me standing in front of somebody else's Mercedes.   

10 crates of Leo in your living room is a sure way to deter the burglars, even they have better taste than that.????????????

[Muzzique]

2 hours ago, actonion said:

But  "many more" people are still  congregating at every street market in East Pattaya  and have done since the start of this virus...So why the ban?

The main reason for the ban is not simply to prevent socialising. 40% of hospital A&E cases before the ban were related to alcohol. This is now down to 15%.

 

Banning alcohol frees up much needed healthcare staff and beds for Coronavirus. Despite what the government says Coronavirus is ripping through Thailand. Daily death rates in April 2020 are almost 3 times the norm. In April 2013-18 it ran at 400 per day. In April 2020 its running at 1300 per day which is 900 more than they would expect. The official figures are kept low to prevent social unrest.

 

Expect the heavy ban to last well into the summer/autumn but it may be partially lifted for a few days to allow you to stock up. However the days of constant binge drinking are over and this will probably be the new norm going forwards.

[NCC1701A]

1 minute ago, vogie said:

10 crates of Leo in your living room is a sure way to deter the burglars, even they have better taste than that.????????????

i don't know <deleted> about beer. what do you suggest to show my good taste and sophistication?  

[Rookiescot]

2 minutes ago, vogie said:

Are you saying that you can make beer with malt.........well I never.

Yes apparently it was done in pre-history by shaman and druids but alas the method has been lost to time.