Popular Post rooster59 Posted May 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 16, 2020 Department explains reasons for removing some countries from high-risk list By THE NATION Dr Walairat Chaifoo The Department of Disease Control has explained the reasons for removing China, South Korea as well as Hong Kong and Macau from the list of countries with high risk of Covid-19 infection. The announcement, signed by Public Health Minister Anutin Charnvirakul, has been published in the Royal Gazette on Friday (May 15) and will go into effect as of May 16. “The criteria that we use to consider lifting the status ‘high risk of infection’ are: The territory must have less than 20 internal cases in the past 14 days, and that it must have medical and public health readiness to effectively handle the outbreak,” said Dr Walairat Chaifoo, the department’s head of epidemiology, on Friday (May 15). Walairat added that China has reported less than 12 new patients per day since April 23, except on April 29 when there were 21 new cases from overseas and one local case. South Korea has reported less than 14 new cases per day since April 20. However, the Itaewon cluster cases that recently emerged have raised the country’s new patients to 20-30 persons per day as a result of aggressive testing. Macau has reported no new cases since April 9, while Hong Kong has reported less than 5 new cases since April 12. “As for Myanmar, Laos, Cambodia, Malaysia and Indonesia, which had been previously announced as at high risk for infection, they will continue to remain under this status although some fit the criteria of having no to fewer new cases reported,” Walairat added. “This is because these countries have connecting borders with Thailand, some of which are still active, which pose a high risk of Covid-19 spreading.” Source: https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30387950 -- © Copyright The Nation Thailand 2020-05-16 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ezzra Posted May 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 16, 2020 And it is NOT because most tourists are from thees countries pray tell?... 9 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post taxout Posted May 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 16, 2020 If this means travellers from Hong Kong and Mainland China etc can now freely enter Thailand -- no insurance no quarantine no health certificate -- then apart from air flights, the problem remains that these places will still all quarantine travellers from Thailand when they return home. So unless there's a reciprocal agreement, don't expect many visitors at all due to this change. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter14 Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 They looking at passport holding .. risk. Not residence risk... <deleted> is that thai stupidity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Relocated Posted May 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 16, 2020 So Koreans and Chinese spend more money than rich westerners. Farangs are too cheap, it seems. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chelseafan Posted May 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 16, 2020 China? Who saw that coming 10 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TallGuyJohninBKK Posted May 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 16, 2020 2 hours ago, rooster59 said: Walairat added that China has reported less than 12 new patients per day since April 23, except on April 29 when there were 21 new cases from overseas and one local case. South Korea has reported less than 14 new cases per day since April 20. However, the Itaewon cluster cases that recently emerged have raised the country’s new patients to 20-30 persons per day as a result of aggressive testing. So then in fact, neither China nor SK have yet met the actual Thai government criteria the good doctor laid out above...and yet, the govt. has now lifted their "infected status". Why??? If you're not going to follow your own criteria, why have them? 4 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sammieuk1 Posted May 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 16, 2020 It's all down to bhartificial intelligence and the believable superhero Xi???? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCP108 Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 In case you have yet to notice... "as a result of aggressive testing" is code for: "so, we don't really have to count them." 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post drbeach Posted May 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 16, 2020 3 hours ago, taxout said: If this means travellers from Hong Kong and Mainland China etc can now freely enter Thailand -- no insurance no quarantine no health certificate -- then apart from air flights, the problem remains that these places will still all quarantine travellers from Thailand when they return home. So unless there's a reciprocal agreement, don't expect many visitors at all due to this change. No one is coming in until June 1 at the earliest, but more likely June 16 or even July 1 (based on airline schedule filings). I suspect a lot of changes will be announced between now and then. I doubt Thailand would tolerate any double standards as you are implying. Also, these days outbound travel from Thailand is no small thing - Hong Kong is very popular with Thais, and there are possibly more Thais traveling to Hong Kong than in the reverse direction these days. Korea is also highly popular. I hope we'll go back to the usual status quo - no special docs required for entering but suspect that will take several weeks or months after the borders re-open, before it happens. It's totally unpredictable. What is predictable is that almost no one will be prepared to travel, unless these restrictive measures are removed. Based on a recent Forbes article I read by a freelance author on the future of air travel, if that dystopian scenario were to materialize, rest assured air travel for 90% of us will be over. Personally, I don't see that happening though - Vietnam is a good example of how things will develop. They started with social distancing on planes, but that has since been dropped. Nearly all domestic flights are back in operation as of today. As far as I am aware, there are only a small handful of travel requirements: 1) temperature check when entering airport and prior to boarding (possibly also on arrival) 2) masks must be worn during check-in, boarding, throughout the flight, de-planing and baggage claim 3) no food or drinks served on board 4) health questionnaire submitted prior to boarding Eventually some of these measures will be dropped. I give it a couple more months. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post cheapcanuck Posted May 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 16, 2020 Big factor is the mighty tourist dollar. Thailand need those tourist to get that Thailand economic engine running again. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PingRoundTheWorld Posted May 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 16, 2020 Thai logic: Step 1- make a totally arbitrary criteria based on nothing but sounds good on paper. Step 2- fail to follow own criteria and allow rich countries in*. Step 3- don't allow poor countries in, despite meeting the criteria. * - They're not allowing anyone in right now, but if it isn't obvious - this is the first step towards easing flight restrictions. No risk no ploblem! Don't get me wrong - I hope Thailand opens flights as I'm stuck out of it currently, but just own up to it and say you need the tourists instead of coming out with b/s "criteria". Thailand has not had and will not have the massive spread experienced in colder climates. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burma Bill Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 3 hours ago, Chelseafan said: China? Who saw that coming And how about the possibility of casinos and gambling - far more lucrative than farangs flying in for sea, sand and SEX! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tribalfusion001 Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, PingRoundTheWorld said: Thai logic: Step 1- make a totally arbitrary criteria based on nothing but sounds good on paper. Step 2- fail to follow own criteria and allow rich countries in*. Step 3- don't allow poor countries in, despite meeting the criteria. * - They're not allowing anyone in right now, but if it isn't obvious - this is the first step towards easing flight restrictions. No risk no ploblem! Don't get me wrong - I hope Thailand opens flights as I'm stuck out of it currently, but just own up to it and say you need the tourists instead of coming out with b/s "criteria". Thailand has not had and will not have the massive spread experienced in colder climates. It's all irrevelant if countries stick to 14 day quarantine when you return home. I read the report on Hong Kong, app on phone and tracking wristband. Countries that are enforcing these restrictions now are not going to relax them for months, so these tourists will not be coming. Countries that rely on tourism may need to cast their net back to the western tourists instead Chinese ones. Edited May 16, 2020 by tribalfusion001 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Knocker33 Posted May 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 16, 2020 Why not Taiwan then ? I suppose that's a stupid question though. And New Zealand. 2 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phkauf Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 This is just a plan in response to a plan Vietnam is developing to create a Travel Bubble with South Korea and China to be quickly followed by Taiwan, Aus, NZ, and Singapore. Thailand was excluded from Vietnam's proposal, go figure. It's on skift.com, if you want to read it (i'm not sure about the rules on linking). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berti Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Knocker33 said: Why not Taiwan then ? I suppose that's a stupid question though. And New Zealand. Taiwan was never on the list. Neither NZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricTh Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 I don't understand what has 'connecting border' got to do with 'high risk'. Myanmar, Laos, Cambodia, Vietnam all have low cases so they should be considered low risk. Some are even lower than Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moe666 Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 Would you put the US or the UK on this list. I think Thailand can and will do as they please and not ask anyone for advice, get over it cry babies 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricTh Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 59 minutes ago, phkauf said: This is just a plan in response to a plan Vietnam is developing to create a Travel Bubble with South Korea and China to be quickly followed by Taiwan, Aus, NZ, and Singapore. Thailand was excluded from Vietnam's proposal, go figure. It's on skift.com, if you want to read it (i'm not sure about the rules on linking). What is the definition of travel bubble? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinsdale Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, rooster59 said: Walairat added that China has reported less than 12 new patients per day since April 23, except on April 29 when there were 21 new cases from overseas and one local case. I agree with this. China has been transparent from the beginning. They told the world at the earliest possible moment there was some sort of new SARS like virus. They told the world at the earliest possible moment that this was a person to person transmission virus. They alerted the WHO to tell the world that international travel should stop immediately. They have never covered up anything and are open to investigation and have been from the beginning. They have never destroyed evidence. All figures about infections and deaths are correct. Brilliant. In the face of ever increasing evidence that the CCP has lied about everything these fools believe them. Not surprising, they probably believe their own figures. Thailand you let them in to start with to get it all going why not again. Absolutelty no second wave stuff happening in China. AHHHHHHHHHHHHH! MORONS! Something tells me Prayut's mate Xi Jinping's been on the phone. Edited May 16, 2020 by dinsdale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blumpie Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 Safe, unsafe, Chinese aren't going to be allowed to come anyways. Spin the headline any way you want to give hope, it's obvious that tourism is obliterated for all of 2020. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 A post using an unsubstantiated death total and the replies have been removed. A post using a trolling reference of a public person's name has been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinsdale Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 37 minutes ago, EricTh said: I don't understand what has 'connecting border' got to do with 'high risk'. Myanmar, Laos, Cambodia, Vietnam all have low cases so they should be considered low risk. Some are even lower than Thailand. I guess it's because they know low testing = low cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinnock Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 2 hours ago, Knocker33 said: Why not Taiwan then ? I suppose that's a stupid question though. And New Zealand. Stop asking sensible questions! ..... and what about Vietnam too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropposurfer Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 Govts will do as they please. We have no say whatsoever. Our safety is not the focus here it’s political expediency plus economics plus holding the reigns of power, and keeping them tightly held. were all gunna die sometime why not in the next outbreak or whatever ya wanna call it of Covid 19? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucec64 Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, tribalfusion001 said: It's all irrevelant if countries stick to 14 day quarantine when you return home. I read the report on Hong Kong, app on phone and tracking wristband. Countries that are enforcing these restrictions now are not going to relax them for months, so these tourists will not be coming. Countries that rely on tourism may need to cast their net back to the western tourists instead Chinese ones. The trend will be to travel bubbles where no 14 quarantine is required on either end. This is the first step of the asian version of the travel bubble. Thailand can get access to a third of their tourists with these countries alone so this is not unexpected. Edited May 16, 2020 by brucec64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phkauf Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 1 hour ago, EricTh said: What is the definition of travel bubble? From what I understand, it allows people from the included countries to travel within the bubble and not be subject to quarantines. Australia and NZ are working on it as well. I think initially it's intended for business folks to revive trade, but tourism is definitely a factor in the article. Vietnam is looking to replace Thailand as a favored destination. Although the Vietnamese people absolutely hate the Chinese, so that will be interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knocker33 Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Berti said: Taiwan was never on the list. Neither NZ do you have link for the full list as I cannot find one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmen Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, PingRoundTheWorld said: But just own up to it and say you need the tourists instead of coming out with b/s "criteria". Yeah right Edited May 16, 2020 by madmen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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