ThailandRyan Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 (edited) 16 minutes ago, trainman34014 said: Welcome back to The Land of Scams where nothing has changed for the better whilst you have been away ! You have just coined the new TAT catch Phrase...."The Land of Scams where nothing has changed for the better whilst you have been away" . Edited May 17, 2020 by ThailandRyan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Is this real Posted May 17, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 17, 2020 3 hours ago, Chicken George said: Msybe a better idea to give half if thus money to the poor here in Thailand.. Pointless to expect overseas tourists for a long time yet. The other half could be spent on cleaning up the seas air rivers and land so as to promote sustainable tourism in the future. Finally, a real suggestion that would actually help. Remember, most tourist spend money that they saved over time that didn't need for other things. The shut downs took all this money away. It will now take time for tourists to rebuild their savings. Spending it now would only force the TAT to fake numbers in the future as they've done in the past, to save face. Give it a rest for a while. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guderian Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 Allowing international passenger flights to land might be helpful in reviving tourism. Not so helpful if it revives the C19 outbreak, though. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoffggi Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 2 hours ago, Traubert said: Rubbish. Prove it? You are welcome to your thoughts, people with experience here know the truth...!!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post zyphodb Posted May 17, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 17, 2020 20 billion Baht, she must be rubbing her hands together in glee as it all vanishes in "admin" costs up the chain to her... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Deli Posted May 17, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 17, 2020 3 hours ago, Geoffggi said: This has to be false news, for the generation of the grass roots economy the country needs to stop sucking up to the Chinese and get the Europeans back as they are the ones who spend in the local shops, bars and restaurants, the Chinese only go to Chinese run or affiliated to the Chinese economy. So true. There should be a worldwide travel ban on all Chinese for at least 5 years to teach them a lesson. Won't happen :(( 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eeworldwide Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 I have to applaud Thailand for being proactive in dealing with Covid19, but I also feel the worst is yet to come. The main reason the outbreak has been minimal here and in Vietnam and Cambodia is simply because of the heat and vitamin D factors and also because there's not so much handshaking and face kissing like in the west. Im glad things are moving well in the right direction, but I feel a little cagey about the rainy season. It only takes 1 asymptomatic case of covid19 for the whole thing to kick off again. I'd be willing to put money on that happening.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaan sailor Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 4 hours ago, Geoffggi said: This has to be false news, for the generation of the grass roots economy the country needs to stop sucking up to the Chinese and get the Europeans back as they are the ones who spend in the local shops, bars and restaurants, the Chinese only go to Chinese run or affiliated to the Chinese economy. Don’t forget about Americans. Yes, tourists do come from USA. But would need a much lower Baht... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CGW Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 1 hour ago, eeworldwide said: It only takes 1 asymptomatic case of covid19 for the whole thing to kick off again. While I can understand people being scared! have you seen the numbers? what is there to be scared off, three times more people die every year from lightening strikes in Thailand! Avoid the fear mongering media seems to be the best bet, though they do have an "agenda" to run with! If the media hadn't "driven" this so hard (under instructions from?), no one would have been any the wiser! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Berti Posted May 17, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 17, 2020 The joke of the year. Yesterday: Ban international flights. Today: Revive tourism. 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTuner Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 4 hours ago, 2 is 1 said: 1980's and 1990's always bump into Brittish and Kraut in every place. They was loud and own every place. Now is same whit Chinese and Russians. True. They've since (mostly) learned how to behave. I doubt the ones coming from commie countries can change their lifelong "education" or habits. Russians have a bit more potential if they're from big cities or clos to westside borders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattaya46 Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 4 hours ago, ParkerN said: The scams have to stop. Now. All of them. // 3 hours ago, trainman34014 said: Welcome back to The Land of Scams // What are you both talking about ?? Living in Pattaya for more than 10 years, I can't remember anytime where I got in a situation I would call a scam ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post spidermike007 Posted May 17, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 17, 2020 Hold on a minute. I get why Thailand is desperate to revive tourism. The fall off has been a major financial hit, and also a great humiliation for the administration. There have been multiple sources that have quoted July 1st, as an opening date, for incoming international flights. But, nobody knows if that is certain, and nobody knows what the requirements will be. A Covid free letter may be required, and I know for a fact those cannot be obtained in the US, at any price. Also, there may be a requirement of health insurance, without a pandemic exemption, which will be quite costly, and who knows what else. Though Thailand wants, and desperately needs international tourism, it must be very careful, as the country has done a great job in keeping the number of cases and the death rate low, and it has to be very vigilant against a second wave. If that second wave is going to happen here, it will not come from within. We have beaten Covid into the ground here. It is DOA. Thailand is one of the safest places on earth right now, in terms of Covid, in my opinion. But, it is raging throughout the world, and much care has to be taken to prevent it from slipping back in. Will nations be rated, depending on the number of cases, the number of deaths, how recent the curve flattened, etc? If so, it will be quite difficult to get in from the US (the most radioactive people in the world in terms of tourism in the near future) Spain, Russia, UK, Brazil, Italy, France, Germany, Turkey, Iran, India, Canada, and quite possibly China. The world leaders. In Covid. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tribalfusion001 Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 19 minutes ago, spidermike007 said: Will nations be rated, depending on the number of cases, the number of deaths, how recent the curve flattened, etc? If so, it will be quite difficult to get in from the US (the most radioactive people in the world in terms of tourism in the near future) Spain, Russia, UK, Brazil, Italy, France, Germany, Turkey, Iran, India, Canada, and quite possibly China. The world leaders. In Covid. That is the core base of tourists 555 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cake Monster Posted May 17, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 17, 2020 How is it possible to promote Hygiene and Safety in a Country where the trash is piled high on the so called non-existent footwalks 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tribalfusion001 Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 Mass tourism is possible with a lower baht, no covid-19 free certificates and insurance. Countries that had a large amount of tourists visiting will need to up their game to attract people back, it's going to cut throat with the economic slide. A lot of people will stay closer to home due to the situation, some people will be scared to fly, long haul may revert back to the intrepid travellers, hopefully the families with young children won't be flying long haul again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berti Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 31 minutes ago, spidermike007 said: Will nations be rated, depending on the number of cases, the number of deaths, how recent the curve flattened, etc? If so, it will be quite difficult to get in from the US (the most radioactive people in the world in terms of tourism in the near future) Spain, Russia, UK, Brazil, Italy, France, Germany, Turkey, Iran, India, Canada, and quite possibly China. The world leaders. In Covid. This list is arbitrarily. How can you compare Russia with Germany at the moment? Totally different developments. Germany was late with measures, but much earlier than Russia. Germany just is not so stupid to kill the whole economy, so they opened up after they saw that the infection rate is under control. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParkerN Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Pattaya46 said: What are you both talking about ?? Living in Pattaya for more than 10 years, I can't remember anytime where I got in a situation I would call a scam ?? Lucky you. Lots would not agree with you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatOngo Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Pattaya46 said: What are you both talking about ?? Living in Pattaya for more than 10 years, I can't remember anytime where I got in a situation I would call a scam ?? They prefer to prey on they vulnerable...….3 week tourists! Edited May 17, 2020 by PatOngo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParkerN Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, PatOngo said: They prefer to prey on they vulnerable...….3 week tourists! Or those who appear to have a pot to <what's the word? Ah yes> in. Scamming 101: Never try to scam a scruff. Edited May 17, 2020 by ParkerN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinBoy2 Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 A lot of this is wishful thinking. Even when international air travel starts up again, the question is still how many people will travel. Domestic air travel is probably a leading indicator of that. Currently in the US, TSA is screening somewhere in the 200K/Day range versus in normal times 2-3M/Day, and I think the same kind of numbers apply in Europe. Of course some of those numbers are international travel, but ~80% is domestic travel, again similar numbers apply for intra Europe. Until you see those numbers improve dramatically for domestic travel the idea that international passenger numbers will rebound is wishful thinking. So the domestic air passenger numbers are, I think, the leading indicator. Unless of course the Thai fortune tellers have a special insight to the future! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Barmbeker Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 1 hour ago, CGW said: While I can understand people being scared! have you seen the numbers? what is there to be scared off, three times more people die every year from lightening strikes in Thailand! Avoid the fear mongering media seems to be the best bet, though they do have an "agenda" to run with! If the media hadn't "driven" this so hard (under instructions from?), no one would have been any the wiser! Ah...yeah...all those contagious lightning strikes... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tribalfusion001 Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 11 minutes ago, GinBoy2 said: A lot of this is wishful thinking. Even when international air travel starts up again, the question is still how many people will travel. Domestic air travel is probably a leading indicator of that. Currently in the US, TSA is screening somewhere in the 200K/Day range versus in normal times 2-3M/Day, and I think the same kind of numbers apply in Europe. Of course some of those numbers are international travel, but ~80% is domestic travel, again similar numbers apply for intra Europe. Until you see those numbers improve dramatically for domestic travel the idea that international passenger numbers will rebound is wishful thinking. So the domestic air passenger numbers are, I think, the leading indicator. Unless of course the Thai fortune tellers have a special insight to the future! Very wishful thinking indeed. Looking likely that travel within Europe next month or July, long haul has to be uncertain for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadilo Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, Skallywag said: there will not be any "self-isolation" or quarantine. Testing can be done like Iceland is doing. "From June 15, however, tourists and Icelandic residents will be allowed to enter the country from outside the Schengen area, and all travellers given the option to get tested upon entering instead of undergoing quarantine. Authorities expect test results to be available the same day, and those who test negative for SARS-CoV-2 will not be required to quarantine themselves. If travellers have a reliable certificate confirming they have recently tested negative for SARS-CoV-2 they will also be exempt from undergoing quarantine." https://www.icelandreview.com/travel/iceland-to-open-borders-on-june-15/ The world Covid 19 numbers are going down steadily and testing is ramping up steadily You think thailand are gong to do that? They didn’t test anyone to start with hence the ridiculous number of cases they were reporting. What about when you return to your country. The UK are requiring 14 day’s isolation and will be for the foreseeable future Edited May 17, 2020 by Kadilo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherwood Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 If I did not live here there is no way I would even think of visiting this joint for a holiday. I live here and the place is a total screw up. Struth! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AgMech Cowboy Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 8 hours ago, rooster59 said: The budget will come from the government's Bt1-trillion borrowing From the CCP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tribalfusion001 Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 9 minutes ago, Kadilo said: You think thailand are gong to do that? They didn’t test anyone to start with hence the ridiculous number of cases they were reporting. What about when you return to your country. The UK are requiring 14 day’s isolation and will be for the foreseeable future It's gone a bit quiet on the UK's quarantine due for 1st June, it will probably be dropped or amended as it was just a sound bite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burma Bill Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 Quote:- "Tourism Authority of Thailand stand ready to revive the tourism sector" Well not until after the end of June as all International flights are banned! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berti Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 37 minutes ago, Kadilo said: What about when you return to your country. The UK are requiring 14 day’s isolation and will be for the foreseeable future Ridiculous measures all over the world. In January: You can't close the borders to China. Now: You must close the border to all countries even with much much lower infection rates than in your own country. So much insanity in all countries. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratcatcher Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 28 minutes ago, Burma Bill said: Quote:- "Tourism Authority of Thailand stand ready to revive the tourism sector" Well not until after the end of June as all International flights are banned! "Tourism Authority of Thailand stand ready to revive the tourism sector" When I see the headline, I think this. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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