2 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

Nonsense. It would have further inflamed an already chaotic and violent situation and made it much worse. 

You've obviously never been shot at, fight or flight kicks in, and these hood rats have no intention in catching lead for a dead Black man and would seek softer targets.

2 hours ago, tlandtday said:

Definitely the use of excessive force.  The officer was either improperly trained or ignorant of his actions in applying the pressure to the neck.  The citizens have a right to be angry.

He was simply a born bully and joining the police gave him plenty of opportunities to follow his natural instincts.

 

There's plenty like him in police forces and other institutions of authority all over the world. They consider themselves to be untouchable and beyond the law.

 

This piece of pigschitt and his cohorts should all have to answer for their actions like anyone else would have to and suffer the same consequences.

 

But let's not hold our breath.

8 hours ago, DoctorG said:

Almost everyone was on their side, black and white, left and right, and then they go mess up the goodwill by looting and burning.

Police in their police office instead of in the streets.  I can imagine.. out of 100 blacks killed by the police, 4 investigated and one ( 1 ) a penalty. Also here... so many fire arms available, also in criminal hands, every policeman runs on "secure" as also he/she wants to return to their families at the end of the day. So much shooting, so many killed: one of every 1000 black men...

On the other hand: no social safety net when something goes wrong, no health insurance for everyone ( with the US system twice the price of any Europen health insurance), so I can imagine many of the poor are now desperate and use the chance to grqasp some foods.

Third: already for generations, young black men do NOT get the proper education about what is wright or wrong, as.. their one parent family ( mostly mums) do not have the power to fight the "challenges" from the streets(gangs)

3 minutes ago, yogi100 said:

He was simply a born bully and joining the police gave him plenty of opportunities to follow his natural instincts.

 

There's plenty like him in police forces and other institutions of authority all over the world. They consider themselves to be untouchable and beyond the law.

 

This piece of pigschitt and his cohorts should all have to answer for their actions like anyone else would have to and suffer the same consequences.

 

But let's not hold our breath.

And therein lies the problem.  How do you police a neighbor hood inhabited by degenerate drug fueled gangsters?  Do we use tough men, men that are by no means perfect but are able to operate in such environments.  Or do we use soy sipping social justice warriors with love instead of firearms, understanding in place of tazers and solidarity as handcuffs? 

3 minutes ago, Heppinger said:

And therein lies the problem.  How do you police a neighbor hood inhabited by degenerate drug fueled gangsters?  Do we use tough men, men that are by no means perfect but are able to operate in such environments.  Or do we use soy sipping social justice warriors with love instead of firearms, understanding in place of tazers and solidarity as handcuffs? 

First of all create a safe environment.

19 minutes ago, Heppinger said:

You've obviously never been shot at, fight or flight kicks in, and these hood rats have no intention in catching lead for a dead Black man and would seek softer targets.

Yeah right, that’s what would happen, everyone would just go home. 

5 minutes ago, puipuitom said:

Police in their police office instead of in the streets.  I can imagine.. out of 100 blacks killed by the police, 4 investigated and one ( 1 ) a penalty. Also here... so many fire arms available, also in criminal hands, every policeman runs on "secure" as also he/she wants to return to their families at the end of the day. So much shooting, so many killed: one of every 1000 black men...

On the other hand: no social safety net when something goes wrong, no health insurance for everyone ( with the US system twice the price of any Europen health insurance), so I can imagine many of the poor are now desperate and use the chance to grqasp some foods.

Third: already for generations, young black men do NOT get the proper education about what is wright or wrong, as.. their one parent family ( mostly mums) do not have the power to fight the "challenges" from the streets(gangs)

“Use the chance to grasp some foods”

 

They looked like pretty well fed big boys doing the looting on a video I’ve just watched.

 

What sauce do you recommend for a 52 inch Samsung tv?

2 hours ago, Heppinger said:

Common sense, you investigate the incident first,  as throwing a veteran officer who has risked and dedicated 18 years of his life to public duty over a POS drug addict who hasn't worked or contributed to society one bit,  you may have officers leaving the force in droves, leaving protection of the people and property up to.......... you?  What do you think is the only thing stopping these rioting degenerates from making their way out to the suburbs, where i'm guessing you would live?  Do you think they will give your white a$$ a free pass if you show them your comments of support?

You can bet a lot of decent cops would applaud seeing this cop come thug facing justice.

 

It's the likes of him that must make their jobs much harder and making them even more hated by some than they were before.

4 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

Yeah right, that’s what would happen, everyone would just go home. 

Not home, just down the street. 

15 minutes ago, puipuitom said:

Third: already for generations, young black men do NOT get the proper education about what is wright or wrong, as.. their one parent family ( mostly mums) do not have the power to fight the "challenges" from the streets(gangs)

You should volunteer as a teachers aid at a black high school to help these young black men get the proper education they are denied.  See how long it takes before your unable to get out of bed in the morning due to your debilitating cognitive dissonance. 

5 minutes ago, Heppinger said:

Not home, just down the street. 

Yeah, sure...

China knows how to keep social order maybe Trump can call President Xi to see how it's done !

'When the looting starts, the shooting starts': Donald Trump

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8367883/Minneapolis-declares-state-emergency-protests-George-Floyds-death-spread-US.html

 

 Very cool Donald. These looters have a mentality borne from decades of "progressive" politics that saw any personal responsibility evaporate to be replaced with entitlement and demanding reparation from historic happenings. Like indulging a spoiled brat and expecting him to grow up. Ain't gonna happen. So thanks to Trump getting serious these thugs can be nice and go home, or keep burnin' and lootin' and eat lead. An easy choice that even the densest of them will understand. Nicely played Donald. Very nicely played indeed.

 

6 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Really?!

yes really ,

40 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said:

'When the looting starts, the shooting starts': Donald Trump

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8367883/Minneapolis-declares-state-emergency-protests-George-Floyds-death-spread-US.html

 

 Very cool Donald. These looters have a mentality borne from decades of "progressive" politics that saw any personal responsibility evaporate to be replaced with entitlement and demanding reparation from historic happenings. Like indulging a spoiled brat and expecting him to grow up. Ain't gonna happen. So thanks to Trump getting serious these thugs can be nice and go home, or keep burnin' and lootin' and eat lead. An easy choice that even the densest of them will understand. Nicely played Donald. Very nicely played indeed.

 

Fine people on both sides, and all that.

1 hour ago, Heppinger said:

And therein lies the problem.  How do you police a neighbor hood inhabited by degenerate drug fueled gangsters?  Do we use tough men, men that are by no means perfect but are able to operate in such environments.  Or do we use soy sipping social justice warriors with love instead of firearms, understanding in place of tazers and solidarity as handcuffs? 

His arrest had nothing to do with drugs or gangsters. Regardless of which, he was handcuffed and restrained.

 

What i would like to know is why he was held like that for so long. Cant 4 or so officers get him in the car? What where they waiting for?

 Burn and Loot your neighborhood followed by 20 years of ghetto blight then bring on the gentrification, problem solved! See Washington D.C. and the ‘68 riots. Real development and money never came back until the affected areas were rife with gang violence, drug infested open air prostitution plagued and real estate was worthless.

  Then enters the big money and drive out the unwashed. 

11 minutes ago, Sujo said:

His arrest had nothing to do with drugs or gangsters. Regardless of which, he was handcuffed and restrained.

 

What i would like to know is why he was held like that for so long. Cant 4 or so officers get him in the car? What where they waiting for?

False. Clearly under the influence of alcohol or drugs. And If you resist men with guns while handcuffed then surely you consider yourself a gangster.

I'm not sure what they were waiting for, he resisted to being walked to the vehicle and ended up on the ground, maybe they wanted to do a thorough search of him before placing him in the vehicle but were unable due to his non compliance  

2 hours ago, yogi100 said:

You can bet a lot of decent cops would applaud seeing this cop come thug facing justice.

 

It's the likes of him that must make their jobs much harder and making them even more hated by some than they were before.

I agree 100%.

 

and you can bet a lot of decent women will sleep easier tonight, especially the ones he committed armed aggravated burglary on at night, in their homes on several occasions.

1 hour ago, Heppinger said:

And therein lies the problem.  How do you police a neighbor hood inhabited by degenerate drug fueled gangsters?  Do we use tough men, men that are by no means perfect but are able to operate in such environments.  Or do we use soy sipping social justice warriors with love instead of firearms, understanding in place of tazers and solidarity as handcuffs? 

You have to use tough men. But they don't have to be bullies.

 

When I was young in London our policemen were all ex servicemen from WW2 and policed with a mixture of fear of consequences and discipline. They sometimes doled out a degree of summary justice and that proved to be effective but not to such an extent as we've witnessed with George Floyd.

 

We feared and sometimes hated them but we also respected them. As a rule if you never gave them any lip you were treated properly.

 

I wish we still had their likes policing our country.

6 minutes ago, yogi100 said:

You have to use tough men. But they don't have to be bullies.

 

When I was young in London our policemen were all ex servicemen from WW2 and policed with a mixture of fear of consequences and discipline. They sometimes doled out a degree of summary justice and that proved to be effective but not to such an extent as we've witnessed with George Floyd.

 

We feared and sometimes hated them but we also respected them. As a rule if you never gave them any lip you were treated properly.

 

I wish we still had their likes policing our country.

Alas Dixon of Dock Green is no longer with us.

31 minutes ago, Heppinger said:

False. Clearly under the influence of alcohol or drugs. And If you resist men with guns while handcuffed then surely you consider yourself a gangster.

I'm not sure what they were waiting for, he resisted to being walked to the vehicle and ended up on the ground, maybe they wanted to do a thorough search of him before placing him in the vehicle but were unable due to his non compliance  

They didnt know if he was under any influence. He wasnt arrested for anything like that. Watch the video from the shop.  No resisting. He was at the vehicle when on the ground. They could have searched him any time they liked.

 

Stop posting fake news.

14 minutes ago, twocatsmac said:

I agree 100%.

 

and you can bet a lot of decent women will sleep easier tonight, especially the ones he committed armed aggravated burglary on at night, in their homes on several occasions.

Are you claiming that this cop moonlighted at night as a burglar. That takes some believing even if he has been seen cold bloodedly crushing the life out of a helpless, manacled victim.

 

I remember the scandal that surrounded the criminal activities of Latino police officers in Miami some years ago. The people responsible for recruiting US police really should be held accountable.

18 minutes ago, twocatsmac said:

Alas Dixon of Dock Green is no longer with us.

Dixon of Dock Green was a light hearted fictional drama from the 1950s and 60s.

 

 We're discussing real life situations here that have taken place 70 years later.

10 hours ago, Heppinger said:

Another victim of marxist propaganda, When was the last time the MSM saturated the news covering a white death by cops?

If there is a victim of propaganda here, it is thee.

13 hours ago, webfact said:

11 hours ago, Heppinger said:

What was he being arrested for? Priors?

Floyd, who was unarmed and reportedly suspected of trying to pass counterfeit bills at a corner eatery,

 

54 minutes ago, Sujo said:

They didnt know if he was under any influence. He wasnt arrested for anything like that. Watch the video from the shop.  No resisting. He was at the vehicle when on the ground. They could have searched him any time they liked.

 

Stop posting fake news.

Stop talking rubbish, have you watched the body cam footage? obviously not 

3 hours ago, jimmyswale said:

China knows how to keep social order maybe Trump can call President Xi to see how it's done !

Why summon the student when you can call on the master Henry Kissinger.

If you can't breath then how can you speak ?  I'd guess the cop didn't believe the guy until it was too late for them both.

2 minutes ago, IAMHERE said:

If you can't breath then how can you speak ?  I'd guess the cop didn't believe the guy until it was too late for them both.

did he choke to death or heart attack?