Pattaya beer bar owners beg the government to let them open

[tribalfusion001]

7 minutes ago, Phil McCaverty said:

Never is, just tell them you love them and want to marry them. They'll be desperate to have your baby. I just forget to inform them that I had the snip many years ago.

I tell them I can't finish with condom, works most of the time.

[Phil McCaverty]

6 minutes ago, Oldie said:

You should inform the government and tell them that you are a very efficient test tool. Perhaps you could start a great career here. ????

If I was asked to be a volunteer for the Oxford vaccine trial, I'd jump at the chance. Oxford have said that the first 30 million doses would be for British citizens. When its released, I'm on the next plane home.

[natway09]

If you have been to the food markets, Chatuchak market, ridden on the skytrain at rush hour in the last month you would know that it is not really 
 "out there"

Testing reliability in the first 10 days of having the virus is basically a waste of time, as

they have found out at the Quarantine stations.

I would suggest opening bars up & admitting customers that have been in Thailand one month                 & as I have said & "suck it & see" long before opening up the borders & International Flights

[ross163103]

12 hours ago, Postmaster said:

The pleading might fall on deaf ears.

Agree totally; it doesn't affect the people making the policies--the rich and powerful.

[wazzupnow]

yes let them open we brave expats will come to rescue them, even if this means a delirium tremens every night

[Phil McCaverty]

14 minutes ago, natway09 said:

I would suggest opening bars up & admitting customers that have been in Thailand one month                 & as I have said & "suck it & see" long before opening up the borders & International Flights

We've all been here way over a month. hasn't been a single case in Pattaya for 2 months.

 

Get on with it, I haven't had a drink for 3 months now. Open up the bar, mine's a large JD on the rocks.

[sawadee1947]

5 hours ago, darksidedog said:

Many of their customers are close to begging the government to let them reopen too. With no local transmissions in a couple of weeks now, there is essentially no one out there right now for people to catch covid from, so further continued closure makes very little sense. They have zero chance of getting tourists in all the time this continues and now would seem the perfect time to allow them to open so the situation can be assessed and protocol addressed before people come back in numbers.

There are a lot of people employed by these places who need to get back to earning a living.

No, nonsense! 

If you open too early and there would be some new cases, there would be no customers at all anymore. 

Also if you are self employed you take risks of less income. 

Save in good times.....! 

Thailand acts not as stupid in UK or US. 

[spidermike007]

2 hours ago, bander said:

Keep them closed until Covid-19 is gone.

Beer bar owners in Pattaya have been ripping off customers for decades with overpriced bar fines, lady drinks, double tabs and you name it.

The longer they close the better for beer bar "addicts" who spend all they'r money on that <deleted>.

 

A ridicously sad and completely out of touch reply. Handle your personal baggage, sir. This is not about you. This is about the well being of your hosts. The nation needs to reopen. This has nothing to do with your fears and paranoia. 

Edited June 6, 2020 by spidermike007

[tribalfusion001]

4 minutes ago, sawadee1947 said:

No, nonsense! 

If you open too early and there would be some new cases, there would be no customers at all anymore. 

Also if you are self employed you take risks of less income. 

Save in good times.....! 

Thailand acts not as stupid in UK or US. 

Keeping entertainment places closed with no local infections allegedly seems pretty stupid to me.

[sawadee1947]

4 minutes ago, tribalfusion001 said:

Keeping entertainment places closed with no local infections allegedly seems pretty stupid to me.

That is why you are not involved in Govt or science matters ????

[Tony125]

4 hours ago, Don Mega said:

Exactly.

Open them up to no customers.

There are still a number of tourists trapped here as well as regular expats who live in Pattaya who would be customers. Also expats from other areas of Thailand and Bangkokians who could come down for a beer.

[OneMoreFarang]

1 hour ago, kingofthemountain said:

Obviously you don't know very well Pattaya

most of the landlords here are very wealthy families

who own a lot of land and buildings, often by inheritance

they don't have any mortgages at all

How do you know that that is the case for "most"? How many do you know?

I am sure those rich families exist. But I am also sure some are not so rich.

I know a bar owner in Bangkok who does not pay any rent in the moment. Good luck for him. But others still pay at least a big part or even 100%. It depends - as usual. 

[maprao]

4 hours ago, petermik said:

This government aint interested in farang bars or entertainment 

Unfortunately you are right

Also not interested in the solo western tourist who plans his own trips.

They want group tours they can heard around!

Edited June 6, 2020 by maprao

[tribalfusion001]

3 minutes ago, sawadee1947 said:

That is why you are not involved in Govt or science matters ????

Even a 5 year old could do better than one's in charge in Thailand!

[Phil McCaverty]

40 minutes ago, Burma Bill said:

Yes indeed - getting ready for the tour groups and young affluent tourists form China, South Korea and Taiwan!!

No foreign tourists for the foreseeable future.

[Don Mega]

5 minutes ago, Tony125 said:

There are still a number of tourists trapped here as well as regular expats who live in Pattaya who would be customers. Also expats from other areas of Thailand and Bangkokians who could come down for a beer.

How many expats go to these beer bars ?

[OneMoreFarang]

1 hour ago, nbg said:

In some some countries people don't have to pay mortgages to the banks at the moment. Don't know to what extend but I know for sure it applies to personal home mortgages. Banks and govts probably has a plan to pick up those losses later on but  for now at least its a relief for those who needs it

 

I'm not talking Thailand only now but imo majority of people in governments serve and think of themselves first and many only think of themselves.

Don't even want to get started on banks and insurance companies forking crooks, I have more respect for roaches

 

Stay safe out there

Do you pay taxes in Thailand?

Would you want that your taxes are used to pay the rent of bar "owners"?

I think the Thai government should support the Thai people who lost their jobs. And at least in part that is what they are doing.

I understand that some business owners lose a lot of money in the moment. And what did those owners do in the good times? Did they put that money in the bank to be prepared for bad times? 

[spidermike007]

3 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

How do you know that that is the case for "most"? How many do you know?

I am sure those rich families exist. But I am also sure some are not so rich.

I know a bar owner in Bangkok who does not pay any rent in the moment. Good luck for him. But others still pay at least a big part or even 100%. It depends - as usual. 

The majority of the commercial tenants here (and in the US too, me being one of them) are getting no breaks in their rent. None. Payment deferrals maybe. If you want to dig a really deep hole. The previous post about the rich landlord presumption for bar owners was light years beyond inane. 

[Phil McCaverty]

2 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

The previous post about the rich landlord presumption for bar owners was light years beyond inane. 

I'm afraid its a fact in Pattaya. Nearly all bar owners are tenants and the majority are tenants of a select number of Thai Chin families. They're brutal.

[maddermax]

A good start would be allow restaurants to sell booze with food. 

[paulikens]

'both are essential businesses' is irrelevant to his point. its about if there is gonna be a second wave,and i wonder if you have ever been on the BTS if you think you would be far

closer to people in a bar.

4 hours ago, robblok said:

Both are essential businesses bars are not. Besides you get far closer to people in bars (we all know why guys go to the beer bars). Plus in the places you mention people wear masks. Can you imagine the girls wearing masks or their customers. I mean those girls have new customers every day and close contact. I mean prime way to spread corvid.

 

[scubascuba3]

5 minutes ago, Phil McCaverty said:

I'm afraid its a fact in Pattaya. Nearly all bar owners are tenants and the majority are tenants of a select number of Thai Chin families. They're brutal.

It's all demand and supply, when 50% of bars close eventually the rents will come down

[jimn]

5 hours ago, darksidedog said:

Many of their customers are close to begging the government to let them reopen too. With no local transmissions in a couple of weeks now, there is essentially no one out there right now for people to catch covid from, so further continued closure makes very little sense. They have zero chance of getting tourists in all the time this continues and now would seem the perfect time to allow them to open so the situation can be assessed and protocol addressed before people come back in numbers.

There are a lot of people employed by these places who need to get back to earning a living.

Exactly what I have been saying for the last week. Continued restrictions make no sense at all. This is what happens when you let the medical people make all the decisions.

[KarenBravo]

4 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

It's all demand and supply, when 50% of bars close eventually the rents will come down

Wrong. When 50% of the bars close, the rents will double for the remainder, to make up for the short-fall. 

[scubascuba3]

1 minute ago, KarenBravo said:

Wrong. When 50% of the bars close, the rents will double for the remainder, to make up for the short-fall. 

That's the myth that keeps getting repeated

[tribalfusion001]

We are sleepwalking into a world of less choice, more controls and less freedoms to stop a virus. When the bars reopen there will be less choice as many will have closed for good, same applies to restaurants, hotels, clothes retailers. In some countries you will have to give up your freedom to enter a bar without giving your details for contact tracing, Singapore is trailing bluetooth wristbands to trace.

 

Who knows what measures will in place to visit some foreign countries, none of them pleasant.

[Skallywag]

1 hour ago, kingofthemountain said:

Do you really think the virus can pass only by a bar girl?

If it's a girl working in a massage shop, a freelancer on Thailfriendly

or even a cashier in Big C, they are safe? (And you are safe also)

seriously...

Yes, after 47 days with no one having C-19 in Chonburi province, we are safe. 

Though I still wear a mask as it is "mandatory" most everywhere other than restaurants

[Skallywag]

4 hours ago, Don Mega said:

Exactly.

Open them up to no customers.

180,000 foreigners still live in Pattaya and Chonburi province.  April 27, 2020

https://www.pattayamail.com/alltime/180000-foreigners-still-in-pattaya-chonburi-province-297240

[SidJames]

23 minutes ago, maddermax said:

A good start would be allow restaurants to sell booze with food. 

Are you mad?

Do you want to kill everyone?

A glass of wine with your dinner? 

Crazy talk max just crazy.

[Pattaya46]

9 minutes ago, Skallywag said:

4 hours ago, Don Mega said:

Exactly. Open them up to no customers.

180,000 foreigners still live in Pattaya and Chonburi province.  April 27, 2020

... but 155,000 "mainly manual workers from Myanmar, Cambodia and Laos" who are not customers of these bars, and less than 15'000 farang expats, according to this same article