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If the afterlife exists then presumably it must be occupied by everyone who has ever died. That's an awful lot of people. There must be one hell of a queue at the post office...

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7 minutes ago, Dmaxdan said:

If the afterlife exists then presumably it must be occupied by everyone who has ever died. That's an awful lot of people. There must be one hell of a queue at the post office...

Surprisingly, less than the people currently alive.

There are more people alive now than have ever died in the past history of man.

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16 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Surprisingly, less than the people currently alive.

There are more people alive now than have ever died in the past history of man.

Where did you read that? genuine question, my interest is piqued.

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5 hours ago, bert bloggs said:

have you ever had anything strange happen to you ,have you seen one?

Yes the weegee board the Ouija also known as a spirit board or talking board.

Weirdo stuff. ????

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I'm not religious and never believed in an afterlife.

 

When my son last year died in front of my eyes, and I was unable to save him, I changed.

 

I since have a feeling that there is a temporary afterlife, after which a reincarnation follows.

 

Maybe the experience I had that day create such a shock that I'm slowly losing my mind, maybe not, who knows

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Both of my wives claim to have seen ghosts... 

 

My Thai wife was at her cousins and told her that "old so&so" walked by the gate this afternoon and must now be out of the hospital... her cousin told her the lady died the night before... 

 

But, as a skeptic, I could imagine my wife having had a vivid dream the night before and just had a memory that she transported to day time... 

 

I half believe in an afterlife... not a strong belief.. but I am trying to spend, but not spend out... just in case you can take it with you... 

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We used a ouija board once when i was younger ,never again ,it frightened us ,the way the thing moved and we started to hear a noise in the corner of the room . and we were not the sort of guys that would normally be frightened,also when i was married to my first wife we lived in an old roman town ,well one day ,my wife screamed and started shaking ,she said she had seen roman soldiers marching through the wall of our house ,i know it sounds funny ,repeating it ,but i can tell you she was white  and shaking like you would not believe .,

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What about The Holy Ghost of biblical proportions? 

As for me, I always heard the saying "Ashes to ashes & dust to dust", at the funeral when people died, so when they put me in the oven down at the local Wat, I'd prefer to come back as a baguette for my wife and family..

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7 hours ago, nikmar said:

nope. Not personally but I ve an open mind.

my friend's wife works in an old folks home and is convinced there's a Heaven or Hell. She has gained very strong beliefs about spirits. 

My grandmother gained a more relaxed attitude to spirits toward the end of her life

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34 minutes ago, kingdong said:

waddington stopped production of the Ouija board after lots of problems through its use.

I guess so it was a weird experience being a skeptic I always thought there was some kind of magnetic connection with the piece you put your fingers on and the board.

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Life after death: logically speaking, if the universe can create complex physical life, the metaphysical realm must be a doddle for it. I'm all for chilling on the ethereal plane so, if there's a choice, I'll be f'ked if I'm coming back here. Can be a shower of shiite at the best of times, but who would risk being born to abusive parents in Somalia? Or, worse still, an 'ozzy'. :giggle:

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The Greeks had it sorted - Achilles: "I'd rather be a slave in the home of my servant than King of the underworld". You live on in the memories of those near and dear to you,  but it fades over time, eventually nothing is left. Even those guys famous and immortal probably bare little resemblance, in their public persona, to the real person. For me, personally, it's a relief, I can think of nothing worse than living forever. My life is bounded, it's what gives it value, living eternity in the moment, that's where it's at. I can't even conceive how an afterlife would work. Yeah, to meet all my old pets and SOs, and family, and friends, in some sort of concatenation would be nice, but I suppose that happens now in my mind, but they're set in time, no way I"m gonna reproduce that in the present, the SOs and friends have moved on, family gets old, pets die, like I say it's an illusion set in time. That moment, my sister doing roly polys down the hill is set in time, it exists in my mind and will die with me.

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1 hour ago, daveAustin said:

Life after death: logically speaking, if the universe can create complex physical life, the metaphysical realm must be a doddle for it. I'm all for chilling on the ethereal plane so, if there's a choice, I'll be f'ked if I'm coming back here. Can be a shower of shiite at the best of times, but who would risk being born to abusive parents in Somalia? Or, worse still, an 'ozzy'. :giggle:

"logically speaking"

 

I think I'm going to have to look up the meaning of "logically"

 

"If someone can make a cheese souffle that doesn't fall, making a thermo nuclear device with 30 kilotons of explosive power must be a doddle."

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As knowledge of reality grows and grows, all the gods and all the myths believed by ignorant humans over the last few thousand years fade into the utter nonsense they always were, losing their clout one discovery at a time.

 

Electrochemical reactions...everything from anger to love to a sweet memory...that's all it is.

 

Knowing that doesn't change it, but now we know that starved of oxygen, the structure and framework of neural pathways along which thoughts move and consciousness exists no longer function. All that we once were, save for the physical structure, ceases to exist. With time that physical structure breaks down and all we were becomes parts of other structures of the physical Universe, from trees to rocks to grass---even to particles or molecules in the glass of water some future President or felon will drink. What I was will become everything from a portion of a tire on a bus carrying kids to school to a bit of a granite countertop where someone is chopping onions to a speck of a hair on the chin of a mangy Soi dog. In fact, since we totally replace the atoms in our body every 7 years or so, what I was in 2001 may well already be any or all of those things right now. An oxygen atom that used to be part of me may well have gone up to the international space station last week or drifted off into space and will someday be part of a new star in a new galaxy. It's even possible---though unlikely because of randomness and distribution effects---that a carbon atom or two of what was me as a 10 year old is contained in the condom I'm using to make love to the woman sharing my bed, a condom preventing my gene pool from being passed on to a new being who would live long after I'm re-distributed. From the mundane to the romantic...we'll all be part of both and everything in between.

 

It's actually kind of fun to think about and more interesting than some 'spirit' that goes "BOO !" or rattles a coffee cup.

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