UK abandons plan to introduce full border checks with EU on Jan. 1 - FT

[webfact]

UK abandons plan to introduce full border checks with EU on Jan. 1 - FT

 

FILE PHOTO: A lorry is driven past dozens of others parked after travelling by ferry between Britain and France at the Port of Dover, Britain, February 14, 2019. REUTERS/Toby Melville/File Photo

 

(Reuters) - The United Kingdom has abandoned its plan to introduce full border checks with the European Union on Jan. 1 as British ministers face pressure from businesses not to increase chaos already caused by the coronavirus outbreak, the Financial Times newspaper reported https://on.ft.com/37k1mxW.

 

Instead, Britain will introduce a temporary "light-touch regime" at ports such as Dover for incoming EU goods, the newspaper reported, adding that this will happen whether or not there is a Brexit free trade agreement with the EU.

 

The newspaper said that officials have conceded, however, that goods flowing to the EU from the UK could face full checks as they enter France.

Britain left the EU on Jan. 31 and has made very little progress in talks about a trade deal, negotiators have said.

 

The Financial Times cited unidentified officials as saying an announcement could be made as soon as Friday on the border checks ahead of Britain's plan to ramp up preparations for a no-deal scenario in July.

 

The approach will be similar to no-deal arrangements drawn in September last year, which prioritised flow of goods over border formalities, the FT said.

 

Agricultural goods will not enter Border Inspection Posts (BIPs) in or near the port and animal products may not immediately be required to have health certificates, according to the plans reported by the newspaper.

 

The plans will let only controlled goods face immediate checks whereas industrial goods are expected to benefit from transitional measures delaying the need for customs declarations and postpone customs duty payments.

 

The development marks a turn from February when Britain said it planned to introduce import controls on EU goods at the border after its post-Brexit transition period ends on Dec. 31.

 

(Reporting by Kanishka Singh in Bengaluru; Editing by Chris Reese and Grant McCool)

 

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[stevenl]

I'm sure the UK will try to present it differently: 'we won't check them but they will check us' won't go down very well with the brexiteers.

[TopDeadSenter]

31 minutes ago, webfact said:

Agricultural goods will not enter Border Inspection Posts (BIPs) in or near the port

Must be some mistake here. How can the Europeans be assured their bananas will have the correct regulation curvature? 

 

Interesting to read in the financial news yesterday that Unilever will be moving it's headquarters to London from the Netherlands. They said the regulatory environment concerning M&A activity is more healthy in London than in the EU. Surely this is the exact opposite of what we have had rammed down our throats since the start of project fear? 

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/jun/11/unilever-picks-london-as-its-home-over-rotterdam

[cmarshall]

They never could have checked incoming goods, since despite the years of delay the government never lifted a finger even to begin to develop the facilities and personnel necessary to undertake border checks.  However, it is a requirement of the WTO that if the UK does not check incoming goods from the EU they cannot check them from any country.  So, regaining control of the borders means having no control of the borders.  Good work, Boris!

[Rookiescot]

Taking back control.

[stevenl]

15 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said:

Must be some mistake here. How can the Europeans be assured their bananas will have the correct regulation curvature? 

 

Interesting to read in the financial news yesterday that Unilever will be moving it's headquarters to London from the Netherlands. They said the regulatory environment concerning M&A activity is more healthy in London than in the EU. Surely this is the exact opposite of what we have had rammed down our throats since the start of project fear? 

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/jun/11/unilever-picks-london-as-its-home-over-rotterdam

Reason for Unilever move is simple: UK is more about direct profits, Europe more about social responsible enterprising. Shareholders in UK opposed move to Netherlands, European shareholders don't mind move to UK.

[lom]

15 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said:

nteresting to read in the financial news yesterday that Unilever will be moving it's headquarters to London from the Netherlands.

No they won't, the headquarter is already in London (Unilever House, London)

 

15 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said:

They said the regulatory environment concerning M&A activity is more healthy in London than in the EU.

They said nothing like that in the Guardian article you linked to.

[stevenl]

1 minute ago, lom said:

No they won't, the headquarter is already in London (Unilever House, London)

 

They said nothing like that in the Guardian article you linked to.

They have 2 headquarters atm, one in Rotterdam will be moving to London.

[JonnyF]

51 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said:

Must be some mistake here. How can the Europeans be assured their bananas will have the correct regulation curvature? 

 

Interesting to read in the financial news yesterday that Unilever will be moving it's headquarters to London from the Netherlands. They said the regulatory environment concerning M&A activity is more healthy in London than in the EU. Surely this is the exact opposite of what we have had rammed down our throats since the start of project fear? 

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/jun/11/unilever-picks-london-as-its-home-over-rotterdam

Indeed. The poorly built wall of Project Fear is falling down, brick by brick.

[samran]

36 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

Taking back control.

The UK being over run by insufficiently bendy bananas! A travesty.

[samran]

50 minutes ago, cmarshall said:

They never could have checked incoming goods, since despite the years of delay the government never lifted a finger even to begin to develop the facilities and personnel necessary to undertake border checks.  However, it is a requirement of the WTO that if the UK does not check incoming goods from the EU they cannot check them from any country.  So, regaining control of the borders means having no control of the borders.  Good work, Boris!

Well said.

[johnpetersen]

57 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said:

Must be some mistake here. How can the Europeans be assured their bananas will have the correct regulation curvature? 

 

Interesting to read in the financial news yesterday that Unilever will be moving it's headquarters to London from the Netherlands. They said the regulatory environment concerning M&A activity is more healthy in London than in the EU. Surely this is the exact opposite of what we have had rammed down our throats since the start of project fear? 

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/jun/11/unilever-picks-london-as-its-home-over-rotterdam

I'm sure that Unililever called the climate for Mergers and Acquisitions  "more healthy" in the UK. The question is, better for whose health? I think "more permissive" is closer to the truth. Is rolling over for multinational corporations your idea of a good thing?

[JonnyF]

16 minutes ago, johnpetersen said:

I'm sure that Unililever called the climate for Mergers and Acquisitions  "more healthy" in the UK. The question is, better for whose health? I think "more permissive" is closer to the truth. Is rolling over for multinational corporations your idea of a good thing?

Low tax and low regulation leads to investment, which leads to jobs and a healthy economy.

 

Singapore on Thames, here we come. The added bonus is that the EU and the Europhiles will hate it, so it will be highly amusing when they finally realize we're serious about telling them to shove their level playing field up the chocolate starfish ????.

[samran]

4 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Low tax and low regulation leads to investment, which leads to jobs and a healthy economy.

 

Singapore on Thames, here we come. The added bonus is that the EU and the Europhiles will hate it, so it will be highly amusing when they finally realize we're serious about telling them to shove their level playing field up the chocolate starfish ????.

Haven't you gotten the memo? Its Hong Kong on Thames now, with the 3.5million Overseas British now coming your way!

[Blue Muton]

1 hour ago, TopDeadSenter said:

Must be some mistake here. How can the Europeans be assured their bananas will have the correct regulation curvature? 

 

Interesting to read in the financial news yesterday that Unilever will be moving it's headquarters to London from the Netherlands. They said the regulatory environment concerning M&A activity is more healthy in London than in the EU. Surely this is the exact opposite of what we have had rammed down our throats since the start of project fear? 

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/jun/11/unilever-picks-london-as-its-home-over-rotterdam

The banana thing is a euromyth, a.k.a. a lie, a.k.a. the real project fear, 40 years of anti-EU BS peddled by the majority of the UK press.

[johnpetersen]

13 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Low tax and low regulation leads to investment, which leads to jobs and a healthy economy.

 

Singapore on Thames, here we come. The added bonus is that the EU and the Europhiles will hate it, so it will be highly amusing when they finally realize we're serious about telling them to shove their level playing field up the chocolate starfish ????.

It was HQ that was moving. Obviously for tax and regulatory purposes. Not the manufacturing divisions. As we've seen in the USA repeatedly, lowered taxes and lowered regulations do not lead to an increase in business investment. Just tax avoidance.

[Chomper Higgot]

17 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Low tax and low regulation leads to investment, which leads to jobs and a healthy economy.

 

Singapore on Thames, here we come. The added bonus is that the EU and the Europhiles will hate it, so it will be highly amusing when they finally realize we're serious about telling them to shove their level playing field up the chocolate starfish ????.

British workers are going to love Singaporean style labour laws.

[samran]

11 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

British workers are going to love Singaporean style labour laws.

So strange that the flag wavers are so enamored by Singapore on Thames, given it will lead to their country being filled with people they apparently despise.

Edited June 12, 2020 by samran

[Rimmer]

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[RuamRudy]

A very interesting piece by Tim Montgomery, former Johnson stalwart, in the New Statesman - tempered in it's tone but surely devastating when you consider how, until recently, he was on the inside. If this is what one of his confidantes has to say about his tenure, imagine what the real story must be like.

 

Why I broke with Boris Johnson

 

"After Cummings-gate the parliamentary party is moving beyond the terrified phase. Many MPs are furious at the slump in the opinion polls; at the ways in which their multiple calls for Cummings to go were ignored; and at a succession of unforced policy errors. They no longer believe in the Prime Minister in the way they did. "

[JonnyF]

30 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:

A very interesting piece by Tim Montgomery, former Johnson stalwart, in the New Statesman - tempered in it's tone but surely devastating when you consider how, until recently, he was on the inside. If this is what one of his confidantes has to say about his tenure, imagine what the real story must be like.

 

Why I broke with Boris Johnson

 

"After Cummings-gate the parliamentary party is moving beyond the terrified phase. Many MPs are furious at the slump in the opinion polls; at the ways in which their multiple calls for Cummings to go were ignored; and at a succession of unforced policy errors. They no longer believe in the Prime Minister in the way they did. "

Interesting.

 

Having read the article it sounds like he's a bit bitter that Cummings had more power and influence than he did. His beef seems to be with Cummings rather than Boris.

[Bruntoid]

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

British workers are going to love Singaporean style labour laws.

People who voted for brexit are well past working age - it’s the youth they’ve shafted - cheers grandad! 

[Bruntoid]

3 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Interesting.

 

Having read the article it sounds like he's a bit bitter that Cummings had more power and influence than he did. His beef seems to be with Cummings rather than Boris.

Who’s Cummings boss ? (Allegedly) 

[Bruntoid]

1 hour ago, samran said:

So strange that the flag wavers are so enamored by Singapore on Thames, given it will lead to their country being filled with people they apparently despise.

Don’t forget all the Eastern European’s being begged to come back to pick the fruit and veg on tax payer funded charter flights ???? what did Boris recently say “you are all welcome here” ?! 
 

haha loving this falling apart - and as the no deal bravado looms closer let’s see what the pound is doing .......hmmmm back in the 38’s ????
 

 

[Bruntoid]

2 hours ago, JonnyF said:

Indeed. The poorly built wall of Project Fear is falling down, brick by brick.

Any update on trade deals ? 

[samran]

2 minutes ago, Bruntoid said:

Any update on trade deals ? 

Chlorinated Chicken Christmas roast dinners coming soon!

[samran]

15 minutes ago, Bruntoid said:

People who voted for brexit are well past working age - it’s the youth they’ve shafted - cheers grandad! 

Well, I guess if they aren't earning enough to pay taxes, there won't be enough in the treasury coffers after effectively subsidising tax minimising 'Singapore on Thames' corporates for their OAPs to be paid.

 

 

Edited June 12, 2020 by samran

[candide]

4 hours ago, JonnyF said:

Low tax and low regulation leads to investment, which leads to jobs and a healthy economy.

 

Singapore on Thames, here we come. The added bonus is that the EU and the Europhiles will hate it, so it will be highly amusing when they finally realize we're serious about telling them to shove their level playing field up the chocolate starfish ????.

Me stupid! I thought there was a strong anti-globalist stance shared by many Brexiters.

[Loiner]

6 hours ago, cmarshall said:

They never could have checked incoming goods, since despite the years of delay the government never lifted a finger even to begin to develop the facilities and personnel necessary to undertake border checks. 

 

 

  So, regaining control of the borders means having no control of the borders.  Good work, Boris!

Not true on both counts

DFRA have been developing new systems for at least two years.

Control is all about the UK deciding on its borders for itself. Maximum control, minimum control, or various controls - all decided y the UK government as and when necessary.

[Loiner]

4 hours ago, samran said:

So strange that the flag wavers are so enamored by Singapore on Thames, given it will lead to their country being filled with people they apparently despise.

Sorry, you wouldn't be allowed in.