Salmon cannot be contaminated with Covid-19: Disease Control Department

[webfact]

Salmon cannot be contaminated with Covid-19: Disease Control Department

By The Nation

 

 

Salmon cannot be contaminated with the Covid-19 virus, Disease Control Department deputy director-general Dr Thanarak Palipat stated.

 

He made the remark in reply to a news report that cutting boards for imported salmon in Beijing’s Xinfadi Market detected the virus, causing worries that the fish could be contaminated with the virus.

 

“We have not studied the case in detail, but we believe salmon cannot be contaminated with the Covid-19 virus,” he said. “We believe that the sellers contracted Covid-19 from their cutting boards.”

 

He said the department has never recommended eating raw meat because it may be contaminated with germs.

 

“We always emphasised that people eat hot, cooked food and use a serving spoon while eating,” he added. “We also advise that vegetables and fruits be washed before they are eaten.”

 

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[Oldie]

"We have not studied the case in detail, but we believe salmon cannot be contaminated with the Covid-19 virus,” he said. “We believe that the sellers contracted Covid-19 from their cutting boards.”

 

So please stay away from cutting boards!!! 

[JCP108]

Thank you, Dr. Thanarak Palipak! A voice of reason amidst a sea of insanity. (He may get a transfer, soon, though...or worse.)

[bluesofa]

16 minutes ago, webfact said:

“We have not studied the case in detail, but we believe salmon cannot be contaminated with the Covid-19 virus,” he said. “We believe that the sellers contracted Covid-19 from their cutting boards.”

Probably using wood cutting boards which have never been properly cleaned or sanitised.

 

I remember back in the UK food standards regulations were very strict about this type of thing.

source: https://www.nisbets.co.uk/colourcodedchoppingboards  

[Justgrazing]

33 minutes ago, webfact said:

We believe that the sellers contracted Covid-19 from their cutting boards.”

Expect a travel ban on cutting boards then .. 

 

34 minutes ago, webfact said:

He said the department has never recommended eating raw meat because it may be contaminated with germs.

and hair ..

 

36 minutes ago, webfact said:

We have not studied the case in detail, but we believe salmon cannot be contaminated with the Covid-19 virus,” he said

you sockeye it to 'em buddy .. 

[PatOngo]

Are they accusing the Chinese of lying? Who'd have thought?

[ratcatcher]

 

10 minutes ago, Justgrazing said:

you sockeye it to 'em buddy .. 

you sockeye it to 'em buddy chum!   Co ho ho.

[bluesofa]

12 minutes ago, Justgrazing said:

Expect a travel ban on cutting boards then .. 

 

and hair ..

 

you sockeye it to 'em buddy .. 

A travel ban on cutting corners would be an idea.

[Destiny1990]

So the virus name isn't CorvidNordic ?

[bluesofa]

1 minute ago, Destiny1990 said:

So the virus name isn't CorvidNordic ?

Only after a skin-full of beer.

[Thailand]

Apparently the coronavirus detected in China is not Covid-19.

[Kerryd]

15 hours ago, ratcatcher said:

 

you sockeye it to 'em buddy chum!   Co ho ho.

He might Chinook until he's Pink !

[LomSak27]

16 hours ago, Oldie said:

So please stay away from cutting boards!!! 

I would expect that he is not saying .... whatever you had on your cutting board, or used your knives for, before the salmon, was the probable contaminant. 

 

Still good for China to Blame Norway, as least for the first news cycle it deflects. 

 

 

Edited June 16, 2020 by LomSak27

[mrfill]

42 minutes ago, Destiny1990 said:

So the virus name isn't CorvidNordic ?

No. It has nothing to do with the crow family.

[gearbox]

15 minutes ago, Curt1591 said:

 

Exactly. He doesn't have an idea what he is talking about.

There are very few studies of survivability of corona like viruses in low temperatures, but apparently the virus can survive up to 2 years in the freezer. In theory a sick person sneezing on food and then freezing it can keep the virus there long time, and activate it when the food is thawed.

This is very different than the virus coming from the salmon itself, e.g the salmon eats contaminated food.

 

More research is needed in this area, as the supermarkets are full with frozen food packed everywhere in the world. The Aussie supermarkets sell regularly frozen berries from Chile, and the coronavirus is raging there. There was a recall before of berries contaminated with Hep A.

 

 

https://www.choice.com.au/food-and-drink/food-warnings-and-safety/food-safety/articles/frozen-berries-hepatitis-a-recall-160215

 

[stouricks]

16 hours ago, bluesofa said:

Probably using wood cutting boards which have never been properly cleaned or sanitised.

 

I remember back in the UK food standards regulations were very strict about this type of thing.

source: https://www.nisbets.co.uk/colourcodedchoppingboards  

Yep, making a cheese, ham & salad sandwich, one board and knife for the cheese, another for the ham and another for the salad.

[Curt1591]

29 minutes ago, gearbox said:

Exactly. He doesn't have an idea what he is talking about.

Unfortunately, it never stops any of them from talking !

[lujanit]

Just the CCP operating from their playbook.  At all times blame others for our incompetence.

[Tony125]

19 hours ago, Oldie said:

"We have not studied the case in detail, but we believe salmon cannot be contaminated with the Covid-19 virus,” he said. “We believe that the sellers contracted Covid-19 from their cutting boards.”

 

So please stay away from cutting boards!!! 

Your last statement is very true. Seen reports in US that state cutting boards should be cleaned/disinfected often as they are a source of germs. Said that plastic ones should be used rather than wood because easier to clean and disenfect.

[stouricks]

I hope JOHN WEST has read this!   PML

 

PRESS OF SARCASTIC EMOJI !

Edited June 16, 2020 by stouricks
Because LomSak did not understand my sarcasm. Sorry.

[LomSak27]

Just now, stouricks said:

I hope JOHN WEST has read this!

That is canned salmon, temp and pressure sterilized and Nothing to do with what is being discussed.

Keeping the plot, It is so critical in these times we live in.  

[hotchilli]

20 hours ago, webfact said:

We believe that the sellers contracted Covid-19 from their cutting boards.”

I've seen the "cutting boards "in my local wet fish/meat market" and outside on the pavement used by vendors, cleanliness is not a word I would use... Corvid being way down the list of your worries !

[pineapple01]

Norway Salmon Farms, what chemical tip. See the reality on You Tube.

[DirtyHarry55]

Good to hear Thailand doesn't believe China's claim Salmon is infected with Covid19 lol.
In general Those wooden cutting boards are very unhygienic and also used in Thai markets if the Markets want to get a COVID READY Certificate they will need to rid of them.
Back to China I wonder which animal was responsible?

[ChouDoufu]

21 hours ago, webfact said:

“We have not studied the case in detail, but we believe salmon cannot be contaminated with the Covid-19 virus,” he said. “We believe that the sellers contracted Covid-19 from their cutting boards.”

 

 

silly rabbit, frozen fish can be contaminated like any other surface.  if the cutting boards can have the virus on the surface, why not the fishies as well?  may even make more sense for the fish to be contaminated, as the frozen condition would preserve the virus.

 

[ChouDoufu]

4 hours ago, gearbox said:

Exactly. He doesn't have an idea what he is talking about.

There are very few studies of survivability of corona like viruses in low temperatures, but apparently the virus can survive up to 2 years in the freezer. In theory a sick person sneezing on food and then freezing it can keep the virus there long time, and activate it when the food is thawed.

This is very different than the virus coming from the salmon itself, e.g the salmon eats contaminated food.

 

More research is needed in this area, as the supermarkets are full with frozen food packed everywhere in the world. The Aussie supermarkets sell regularly frozen berries from Chile, and the coronavirus is raging there. There was a recall before of berries contaminated with Hep A.

 

 

https://www.choice.com.au/food-and-drink/food-warnings-and-safety/food-safety/articles/frozen-berries-hepatitis-a-recall-160215

 

 

do i remember reading reports of masks from china, and testing kits from south korea being contaminated with covid19, and shipped to europe?  it's possible the virus could have been brought in on contaminated fish.  or the fish may have nothing to do with it other than being cut on a board by an infected fishmonger.

 

i don't think china is trying to "blame foreigners" for this outbreak.  that's projection on the part of the i hate the ccp crowd.  same as when china was reporting "imported" cases.  that wasn't blaming foreigners, that was reporting the distinction between local transmissions and virus caught at arrival screenings of returning chinese.

 

give them the benefit of the doubt, for the moment, and consider the situation.  they've done heaps of testing in beijing, they've had no cases in nearly two months.  if the incubation period is 14-21 days, and if asymptomatic cases are as contagious as we believe, then if there is wild virus in beijing, it should have been noticed.  they get a sudden outbreak and they're looking at possibilities.  they have a massive orwellian surveillance apparatus, and are busy contact tracing anyone who went to the market or associated with anyone who went to the market for the past month.  it would make sense to trace the stuff those people were in contact with as well.

 

 

[DirtyHarry55]

33 minutes ago, ChouDoufu said:

 

silly rabbit, frozen fish can be contaminated like any other surface.  if the cutting boards can have the virus on the surface, why not the fishies as well?  may even make more sense for the fish to be contaminated, as the frozen condition would preserve the virus.

 

So why don't they test the Fish instead they test the Board and blame the fish lol?

[DirtyHarry55]

Is it a coincidence both outbreaks started at a wet market?
Could it be something carrying the Virus is being chopped up and sold there?

[ChouDoufu]

3 minutes ago, DirtyHarry55 said:

So why don't they test the Fish instead they test the Board and blame the fish lol?

 

dunno.  maybe the fish were all sold and consumed by that point?

[Grumpy John]

It's hard to imagine there is a well cleaned and disinfected cutting board anywhere in LOS....judging from what I have seen in restaurants and markets.