snoop1130 Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 Exclusive: Amid Brexit impasse, Germany urges no-deal preparations - document By Andreas Rinke FILE PHOTO: European Union and British flags flutter in front of a chancellery ahead of a visit of British Prime Minister Theresa May in Berlin, Germany, April 9, 2019. REUTERS/Hannibal Hanschke BERLIN (Reuters) - The German government is urging other EU states to prepare for a no deal Brexit, according an internal document that casts doubt on Britain’s optimism over chances of an early agreement on its future ties with the bloc. Britain left the European Union on Jan. 31 and their relationship is governed by a transition arrangement that keeps previous rules in place while new terms are negotiated. Prime Minister Boris Johnson, who confirmed last week that Britain has no intention of extending that transition beyond 2020, wants to strike a free trade deal quickly. On Monday, he suggested an agreement could be reached in July with “a bit of oomph”. But the German government document, dated June 15 and seen by Reuters, shows Berlin expects the negotiations to take longer. “From September, the negotiations enter a hot phase,” it read. “Britain is already escalating threats in Brussels, wants to settle as much as possible in the shortest possible time and hopes to achieve last-minute success in the negotiations.” The German Foreign Office was convinced the transition deal would not be extended beyond the end of this year, the government document showed. “It is therefore important to preserve the unity of the 27, to continue to insist on parallel progress in all areas (overall package) and to make it clear that there will be no agreement at any price,” the document read. “Therefore, both national and European contingency planning would now have to start in order to be prepared for a no deal 2.0.” The withdrawal agreement on Britain’s departure was only struck after bitter negotiations that threatened to end in a no deal Brexit, but Berlin did not believe the situation was as critical this time around. “The situation is less serious than in 2019, as important regulations, for example for citizens, were sorted out in the withdrawal agreement,” the document read. With the two sides so far apart and little time left to negotiate, there are concerns that London’s decision not to extend the transition might lead to a cliff edge that could compound the economic damage caused by the coronavirus crisis. -- © Copyright Reuters 2020-06-17 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post welovesundaysatspace Posted June 17, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 17, 2020 (edited) Good. Even if there was more time for talks, reaching an agreement would still be impossible because both parties’ positions simply are incompatible. You can’t square a circle. It’s time to accept that and to move on. There’s more important things than this. Let’s not waste more resources on this nonsense. Edited June 17, 2020 by welovesundaysatspace 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post edwinchester Posted June 17, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 17, 2020 So much for the easiest trade deal in history Farage, Gove, Johnson et al sold to the gullible. 18 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post worgeordie Posted June 17, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 17, 2020 26 minutes ago, snoop1130 said: wants to strike a free trade deal quickly. Sure to include giving our fishing rights away to the French and Spaniards. regards worgeordie 3 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post welovesundaysatspace Posted June 17, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 17, 2020 (edited) 29 minutes ago, worgeordie said: Sure to include giving our fishing rights away to the French and Spaniards. regards worgeordie Brexiteers and their economic illiteracy have provided us some good laughs over the last couple of years, such as getting obsessed with something that’s worth less than 0.1% of the pie. “to have your crumbs and eat it” it is. Let us have the big fishes then. ???? Edited June 17, 2020 by welovesundaysatspace 8 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post OneMoreFarang Posted June 17, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 17, 2020 30 minutes ago, worgeordie said: Sure to include giving our fishing rights away to the French and Spaniards. regards worgeordie Did you ever check how much you would "give away"? Almost nothing! 7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post OneMoreFarang Posted June 17, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 17, 2020 Boris and all the others promised the impossible. At least some of them were smart enough to know that even when they promised it. Who will the UK deal with if not with the EU? The USA? China? All the big players will treat the UK like the little player they are. If the UK politicians think the EU is unreasonable don't be surprised what the other will offer and demand. Take back your control. Sure. What a joke! 11 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sirineou Posted June 17, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 17, 2020 (edited) 25 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said: Did you ever check how much you would "give away"? Almost nothing! What is a Englishman with reduced Fishing rights,but a shell of a man! Diminished to sit along at the pubs, in sorrow and with no nautical tales to share with his fellow seafaring Scalawags Not a world I want to live in Arrr!! Edited June 17, 2020 by sirineou 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadman Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 4 hours ago, sirineou said: What is a Englishman with reduced Fishing rights,but a shell of a man! Diminished to sit along at the pubs, in sorrow and with no nautical tales to share with his fellow seafaring Scalawags Not a world I want to live in Arrr!! Must be a bloody long line from that bar in Thailand. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pacovl46 Posted June 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 18, 2020 Free trade deal, riiiiiiiiiiiight! You wanted out, now you’re out. No deal will be just fine! 3 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post wombat Posted June 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 18, 2020 the virus is finished and its back to Brexit, the circle of life is complete 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post vogie Posted June 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 18, 2020 13 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said: Did you ever check how much you would "give away"? Almost nothing! But we havn't given anything away, the EU has already backed down over their rights to fish our waters, and still more to come, it is not Olly Robbins negotiating anymore. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post nauseus Posted June 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 18, 2020 14 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said: Boris and all the others promised the impossible. At least some of them were smart enough to know that even when they promised it. Who will the UK deal with if not with the EU? The USA? China? All the big players will treat the UK like the little player they are. If the UK politicians think the EU is unreasonable don't be surprised what the other will offer and demand. Take back your control. Sure. What a joke! Your needle will never get out of the groove will it? 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 14 hours ago, sirineou said: What is a Englishman with reduced Fishing rights,but a shell of a man! Diminished to sit along at the pubs, in sorrow and with no nautical tales to share with his fellow seafaring Scalawags Not a world I want to live in Arrr!! Oooh Arrr ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post OneMoreFarang Posted June 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 18, 2020 1 minute ago, nauseus said: 14 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said: Boris and all the others promised the impossible. At least some of them were smart enough to know that even when they promised it. Who will the UK deal with if not with the EU? The USA? China? All the big players will treat the UK like the little player they are. If the UK politicians think the EU is unreasonable don't be surprised what the other will offer and demand. Take back your control. Sure. What a joke! Your needle will never get out of the groove will it? You mean I repeat: "Brexit is stupid and you should have known it" too often? It seems I am many others didn't repeat that often enough. There are still people out there who think Brexit was a good idea. It would be funny if it wouldn't be so sad. 10 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post nauseus Posted June 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said: You mean I repeat: "Brexit is stupid and you should have known it" too often? It seems I am many others didn't repeat that often enough. There are still people out there who think Brexit was a good idea. It would be funny if it wouldn't be so sad. Sad for you maybe but a rare event of happiness and joy for the majority of the British people. 2 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post OneMoreFarang Posted June 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, nauseus said: Sad for you maybe but a rare event of happiness and joy for the majority of the British people. Yeah, they are dancing in the streets. Happy, Happy, Happy. 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rookiescot Posted June 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 18, 2020 All this just to protect the rich using tax havens and avoiding tax. 5 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 4 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said: Yeah, they are dancing in the streets. Happy, Happy, Happy. Oooh yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rookiescot Posted June 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 18, 2020 17 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said: Yeah, they are dancing in the streets. Happy, Happy, Happy. Rioting and fighting the police would be nearer to it. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caldera Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 Good, get over with it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stephenterry Posted June 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 18, 2020 I expect the shambles of the Tory government headed by a puppet PM to bungle any Brexit deal in similar incompetence as mismanaging the Corona virus. Waste of space, IMO. And waste of my time even considering further comment on this subject until the marvelous chlorine chicken deal with the USA comes to fruition. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterphuket Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 Fact is that Unilever, a company 50% British, 50% dutch, surely not one of the smallest, initially intended to stay in the Netherlands, has decided now to stay 100% in England. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumpy 4680 Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 Brexiteers wanted out from Europe totally, Looks like what we're getting, As for fishing, its only right that they should trade for it. With Britain in control of its stocks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumpy 4680 Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 1 hour ago, stephenterry said: I expect the shambles of the Tory government headed by a puppet PM to bungle any Brexit deal in similar incompetence as mismanaging the Corona virus. Waste of space, IMO. And waste of my time even considering further comment on this subject until the marvelous chlorine chicken deal with the USA comes to fruition. WE won't be eating chicken, its going to be tasty Beef and Lamb from Aus and Kiwi again, which many anti brexit fans can not even remember before 1973. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bodga Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 Why not just give them two fingers, am sick of hearing of this krap, dragging it on and on and on, right up there with CV19 and the new BLM. New Normal, total ballcocks the lot of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post vogie Posted June 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 18, 2020 Chlorinated chicken is like a wilting warcry to some of the the remainers, they can't imagine for one minute that they have a freedom of choice and don't have to buy it or even eat it. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stephenterry Posted June 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 18, 2020 11 minutes ago, vogie said: Chlorinated chicken is like a wilting warcry to some of the the remainers, they can't imagine for one minute that they have a freedom of choice and don't have to buy it or even eat it. I wouldn't touch any USA imported processed food or drinks of any kind. It's all junk, leads to obesity and diabetes 2 and, for your information, it's got zero to do with 'remainers' in my case, it's all about keeping healthy. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sawadee1947 Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 21 minutes ago, vogie said: Chlorinated chicken is like a wilting warcry to some of the the remainers, they can't imagine for one minute that they have a freedom of choice and don't have to buy it or even eat it. 5555 and who can afford to buy the expensive chicken from EU? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post welovesundaysatspace Posted June 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 18, 2020 36 minutes ago, grumpy 4680 said: WE won't be eating chicken, its going to be tasty Beef and Lamb from Aus and Kiwi again, which many anti brexit fans can not even remember before 1973. Wait, does this mean that on top of the bendy bananas, the EU also made “tasty beef and lamb from Aus and Kiwi” illegal? Scandalous! I’m outraged! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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