White House: Trump did not direct virus testing slowdown, does not regret 'kung flu' remark

[shdmn]

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1 hour ago, SometimezaGreatNotion said:

Shame, I say, SHAME on Trump supporters who did not attend the rally! What is Trump supposed to think if you are not willing to risk the lives of your elderly friends and relatives? 

  You would think they would have no problem attending since, according to them, the virus is a giant conspiracy.

Edited June 23, 2020 by shdmn

[Jingthing]

It's a pattern, dudes. A pattern, and that simply cannot be denied.

What you hear is what you got. 

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/06/23/follow-general-sanchezs-lead-trumps-language-is-racist/

 

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Trump’s language is racist. Period.

 

It’s tiresome to read the “racially charged” or “racial grievances” in describing President Trump’s blatantly racist language. When you call the coronavirus the “kung flu,” as he did during his Tulsa rally, it behooves the media to say clearly: This is a derogatory and racist reference. 

 

 

[Tie Dye Samurai]

7 hours ago, Catoni said:

You wouldn’t like the publications I like. 

    The publications I like support individual freedom and personal responsibility. They are anti-totalitarian. Anti-communist and anti-fascist and anti-Islam extremism. 

   Not your type of publication. 

OK, if you like Civil Disobedience by Henry David Thoreau just admit it, this is a safe space Comrade.

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[Dap]

14 hours ago, ChouDoufu said:

 

i would agree it was a joke.  same as during the 2016 campaign where he requested russian hackers help find hillary's missing 33,000 emails.  yes, that too was a joke.  (hint: ya can't hack a disconnected server that's already been bleach-bitten)

 

thing is, his joke was in very poor taste.  over 100,000 americans have died from the virus, and the commander in chief, the leader of the free world, makes jokes about it.

 

deplorable.

 

 

Both the WhiteHouse and Trump himself have recently stressed it was not a joke. The man is deplorable and those that are trying to cover his a*se are equally so.

[Eric Loh]

2 hours ago, Dap said:

Both the WhiteHouse and Trump himself have recently stressed it was not a joke. The man is deplorable and those that are trying to cover his a*se are equally so.

If it is joke, the joke on him. Most find that portion of his incoherent speech disgusting & disrespectful. It backfired big time and cast him as a person devoid of empathy and inability to connect with the people. Not that it surprise anyone as he is that sort of person in his whole adult life. 

[mtls2005]

Clean up in aisles 3, 4, and 7.

 

He was "joking". It was tongue in cheek. Libs have no sense of humor.

 

Yes, who doesn't love a good virus joke?

 

Now we're told the president doesn't "kid".

 

Maybe he forgot what he "ordered" his "staff" to do?

 

Pick a "story", get everyone on the same page and try to hold it for at leat 48 hours.

 

Half-expecting an executive order to stop issuing death certificates. That way no one will die.

 

That's works about as well as my "never weigh myself" diet.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited June 24, 2020 by mtls2005

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[Saint Nick]

21 hours ago, Catoni said:

Failures?  Let’s see the list. 

    Show us a list of Trump’s failures.... and then we’ll do a list of his successes and we’ll add ‘em up.

   Then we’ll do a list of Obama and Clinton and Biden failures. 

   Sound good...comrade?

Let's start with 120.000 deaths, many of which could have been prevented, if Trump would have taken the virus seriously!

In 4 months!

I am really interested in any number of deaths, caused by Obama and Clinton combined!

But then again: if you want to start the Olympics of Stupid...you win!

[Saint Nick]

18 hours ago, Catoni said:

The “Guardian”. Britain’s largest socialist/Marxist rag.

    Nice.... 

Do you even know what those terms mean?

They seem to be awfully big words!

[Saint Nick]

18 hours ago, Catoni said:

Great ????.   Now please be kind enough to tell us how many showed up for Biden’s rally in Philadelphia the other day. 

   I’ll wait right here.   

Maybe it is because all the communism made my brain go squishy, but I don't rcall Biden blabbing on and on about "millions", who wanted to attend his rally and Biden setting up a 40.000 pax stage for "overflow audience" and Biden putting his rally into a 20.000 pax venue, with only 7.000 showing up!

...god I hate this, because I don't evenlike Biden!

[Saint Nick]

18 hours ago, Catoni said:

You wouldn’t like the publications I like. 

    The publications I like support individual freedom and personal responsibility. They are anti-totalitarian. Anti-communist and anti-fascist and anti-Islam extremism. 

   Not your type of publication. 

So Breitbart and Infowars!

Got it!

[jcsmith]

2 hours ago, Saint Nick said:

So Breitbart and Infowars!

Got it!

The real fake news...

[ChouDoufu]

10 hours ago, Dap said:

Both the WhiteHouse and Trump himself have recently stressed it was not a joke. The man is deplorable and those that are trying to cover his a*se are equally so.

wow.  i thought the "joke" was deplorable enough, but if he was serious, then employment of amendment 25 needs to be considered.

 

from the articles i've read on this:

 

1. trump was asked whether he directed his regime to slow testing.  he did not answer that question, instead choosing to focus why so much testing made his regime look bad.

 

2.  his lackeys say trump never directed them to slow testing, and point to no slowdown in testing.

 

 

my take?  it sounds a lot like the meaning of "is".  i imagine in one of his briefings he asked his health advisors if slowing testing could reduce the number of cases.  he would have been talked out of it, so would not have given the order.

 

 

[Tug]

Who would have guessed trump would throw his lie clean up crew under the bus lol you just can’t make this stuff up!on a side note I wonder how many dead Americans he’s going to Talley up for his divide America rallies imo it’s incredibly ill responsible to hold them come on November enough!

[johnpetersen]

19 minutes ago, ChouDoufu said:

wow.  i thought the "joke" was deplorable enough, but if he was serious, then employment of amendment 25 needs to be considered.

 

from the articles i've read on this:

 

1. trump was asked whether he directed his regime to slow testing.  he did not answer that question, instead choosing to focus why so much testing made his regime look bad.

 

2.  his lackeys say trump never directed them to slow testing, and point to no slowdown in testing.

 

 

my take?  it sounds a lot like the meaning of "is".  i imagine in one of his briefings he asked his health advisors if slowing testing could reduce the number of cases.  he would have been talked out of it, so would not have given the order.

 

 

It sounds nothing at all like the meaning of "is":

 

Trump: 'I don't kid' on coronavirus testing

President Trump said Tuesday that he doesn’t “kid” when asked whether he was joking when he said at a campaign rally that he asked aides to slow down coronavirus testing.

“I don’t kid,” Trump said when asked whether the remarks were made in jest, undermining statements from his own White House that the comments were a joke. Trump also told CBN News in an interview a day prior that he did not ask staff to slow down testing but did not deny doing so in the exchange with reporters on Tuesday.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/504060-trump-i-dont-kid-on-coronavirus-testing

[Silurian]

Donald keeps digging himself a bigger and bigger hole. The numbers just don't lie. A straight downward trend line for Donald. Currently, an average of 16.9 point spread for Biden. Some odd makers showing a whopping 20 point spread!

 

The highest average odds point spread Hillary had vs Donald was 8 points in the last 6 months of the 2016 election. Biden has this DOUBLED!

 

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/elections/betting_odds/2020_president/

 

Edited June 24, 2020 by Silurian

[Opl]

So be it ...  "Trump's handling of Kung Flu pandemic" will remain in the World history as iconic of his legacy   

Edited June 24, 2020 by Opl

[johnpetersen]

And now we have what may be our definitive answer to the question of whether Trump ordered a reduction in testing!

Live updates: Federal government to scale back testing support even as hospitalizations reach new highs

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/06/24/coronavirus-live-updates-us/

 

If this is true, it looks like someone is about to be hit with a nasty surprise:

 

HEALTH CARE BRIEFING: Fauci Says U.S. Plans to Step Up Testing

Top U.S. health officials said they haven’t been asked to slow down coronavirus testing and indicated they plan to ramp up screening for Covid-19 as infections surge in some of the most populous states.

The officials also told lawmakers that they haven’t discussed the Covid-19 pandemic with President Donald Trump for more than two weeks, a period in which cases have surged in some of the most populous states.

https://about.bgov.com/news/health-care-briefing-fauci-says-u-s-plans-to-step-up-testing/

[johnpetersen]

If it's really true that the Feds are going to cut back on support for testing, the Headlines should read

PRESIDENT TRUMP: "Please stop me before I win again."

Anyway, it's a sure thing that this decision is going to have to be reversed if it's true. The political pressure will just be too great to resist. 

[Morch]

On 6/23/2020 at 8:56 AM, johnpetersen said:

Kellyanne Conway condemns racist term 'kung flu' three months before Trump says it

 

 

To paraphrase another President, "it's not racist if the President says it".

[Stargeezr]

Oh USA, could you please get a person to be President of your country, who has enough 

intelligence and smarts to at least act like a president, and not like your clown Trump.

  I mean even if you have to elect an old man who may have memory problems, at least

he can read his lines from a prompter and sound more Presidential. Not long until

November..

Geezer

[Langsuan Man]

35 minutes ago, Stargrazer9889 said:

Oh USA, could you please get a person to be President of your country, who has enough 

intelligence and smarts to at least act like a president

Noted;  There are many that want to flush the turd on November third 

[crobe]

11 hours ago, Silurian said:

Donald keeps digging himself a bigger and bigger hole. The numbers just don't lie. A straight downward trend line for Donald. Currently, an average of 16.9 point spread for Biden. Some odd makers showing a whopping 20 point spread!

 

The highest average odds point spread Hillary had vs Donald was 8 points in the last 6 months of the 2016 election. Biden has this DOUBLED!

 

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/elections/betting_odds/2020_president/

 

I would lay odds of 90% that if Trump loses the election then he will refuse to turn up to the inauguration of the new president in a show of absolute petulance.

[kingdong]

On 6/23/2020 at 8:38 AM, holy cow cm said:

How about the Chinese dominate the world I kill you and your economy flu. Not a fan of Trump but love him talking c - rap about the Chinese government and taking them on with trade. Only good thing he has done.

and give who the spanish archer.

[LomSak27]

Less testing, less documented cases, and what is so wrong with that?!  It's a win win for the know nothings.

 

Meanwhile in the real world. yesterday headlines stated ominously that wuhan virus is surging in big southern states, today, they are admitting it is spiraling out of control. And not much is being done or can be done when you have enshrined ignorance as a virtue.

 

To catch some know nothings in actions nothing better than this clip. This is what happens when you empower ignorance. It has taken some time, thirty plus years of talk radio, then FOX, now Trump, but the US is finally scraping the bottom of the barrel. 

 

https://edition.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/06/24/mask-mandate-florida-anger-erupts-coronavirus-vpx.cnn

 

 

Edited June 25, 2020 by LomSak27

[Tie Dye Samurai]

2 hours ago, LomSak27 said:

To catch some know nothings in actions nothing better than this clip. This is what happens when you empower ignorance. It has taken some time, thirty plus years of talk radio, then FOX, now Trump, but the US is finally scraping the bottom of the barrel. 

 

https://edition.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/06/24/mask-mandate-florida-anger-erupts-coronavirus-vpx.cnn

 

 

I dont have words for this...I understand maybe not wanting to wear a mask because you do not like it...I understand how it is inconvenient and a hassle to wear a mask...I even can understand how it imposes on your "freedom" but to deny that it does help stop spreading the virus is beyond me....it is just common sense that if you cover your nose and mouth that less of what is in your body is going to get out into the air. How is that so difficult to understand?

[Catoni]

On 6/23/2020 at 11:29 AM, Jingthing said:

Excuse me, Catoni, but I had thought it was freakin' obvious to everyone.

45 is a carnival barker reality t.v. type showman that makes a yuge deal about his ratings, his popularity (now in the toilet), and how he can easily fill any venue that he visits. So that indeed is his own standard. He failed. Bigly. In OK. He knows that better than anyone on the planet.

 

It's silly to compare him to Biden now. Biden is following very sane public health recommendations. Biden is not willing to directly risk the lives of his own supporters and all the innocent people they will come in contact with. Biden is not holding any rallies now because holding rallies now, especially indoor ones, especially while discouraging people from wearing masks, is basically insane at this time.

 

45 has such a big and toxic narcissistic ego that he gets his jollies knowing that at least some people (those that attended the sparse rally in Tulsa) are so irrationally devoted to him that they are explicitly willing to risk their lives to see his repetitive old stale rally show.

 

But it wasn't enough this time. Not nearly. There was a sea of empty seats. His boasts about never any empty seats at his events have been hit by reality. All he can do now is blame others for his failure.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/21/us/politics/trump-tulsa-rally.html

 

“...rallies...”.  Huh?  Really?  So why are the Democrats supporting the huge Marxist “Black Lives Matter” and ANTIFA street rallies and defending their “protests”.  The virus chooses which rallies to spread in ? 

   Ohhhh Kay 

[Dap]

17 hours ago, ChouDoufu said:

wow.  i thought the "joke" was deplorable enough, but if he was serious, then employment of amendment 25 needs to be considered.

 

from the articles i've read on this:

 

1. trump was asked whether he directed his regime to slow testing.  he did not answer that question, instead choosing to focus why so much testing made his regime look bad.

 

2.  his lackeys say trump never directed them to slow testing, and point to no slowdown in testing.

 

 

my take?  it sounds a lot like the meaning of "is".  i imagine in one of his briefings he asked his health advisors if slowing testing could reduce the number of cases.  he would have been talked out of it, so would not have given the order.

 

 

This mornings news briefs (Morning Brew) -  Aides later said he was joking, but yesterday Trump told reporters, “I don’t kid.” 

Edited June 25, 2020 by Dap

[ChouDoufu]

2 hours ago, Tie Dye Samurai said:

I dont have words for this...I understand maybe not wanting to wear a mask because you do not like it...I understand how it is inconvenient and a hassle to wear a mask...I even can understand how it imposes on your "freedom" but to deny that it does help stop spreading the virus is beyond me....it is just common sense that if you cover your nose and mouth that less of what is in your body is going to get out into the air. How is that so difficult to understand?

sometimes incorrect information shows up on the interwebs.  sometimes the science is lacking, but is later corrected.  sometimes people haven't read the latest updates.   and sometimes the science becomes politicized.

 

i 'member back when this all started, there were threads right here in teevee about the value of wearing masks.  i accepted the CDC pronouncements that masks were NOT needed or helpful for most people.  their version at the time was masks are needed only for people already infected or for healthcare workers treating infected patients.  otherwise, no masks.  that was from the **** CDC, so of course i believed it!

 

that has changed.  now there are more studies showing the effectiveness of masks.  now there are more studies showing how the virus spreads.  and now fauci admits the public were told masks were not needed, not because of the science, but due to the anticipated shortage.

 

it also doesn't help that a "leader" is telling his followers that wearing a mask is a sign of resistance to his regime's policies.  america is doomed.