Jeffrey Epstein friend Ghislaine Maxwell arrested on sex abuse charges

[Eindhoven]

11 minutes ago, giddyup said:

I'll say this. Different times, different standards. What was off limits 50 years ago is now permissible, what was acceptable 200 years ago is maybe now illegal or unacceptable. Porn is everywhere, catering to every taste, no matter how deviant. I try not to get too het up about a few 16 year olds giving hand jobs as the end of the world.

 

So why are you posting here? Troll?

[giddyup]

1 minute ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

 We can all imagine what kind of person you are and why you are in(to) Thailand. 

Imagine away.

[giddyup]

1 minute ago, Eindhoven said:

 

So why are you posting here? Troll?

Voicing an opinion, same as anyone else.

[Eindhoven]

7 minutes ago, giddyup said:

Unproven, and I don't answer to hypotheticals.

 

How did it become a hypothetical after you already stated that it is an allegation?

So it might be true or it might not. He asked you how you felt about it, not whether you thought it was true of not.

[Eindhoven]

Just now, giddyup said:

Voicing an opinion, same as anyone else.

 

Sorry, what was your opinion? I must have missed it.

 

To recap, what I have seen thus far is you incorrectly quoting the age of consent, as if to state that the law thinks it is ok. It does not and you made no comment acknowledging that fact.

 

Then you stated something about how it was all so different 200 years ago. 200 years ago we had slavery. Was that considered morally acceptable or was it just exploitation?

 

So far you seem to be digging yourself a hole in a swamp.

[Eindhoven]

What giddyup appears to be stating, correct me if I am wrong, is that you could get away with a lot of nasty poo in the past. So as long as you got away with it then, it's absolutely fine.

 

Is that it?

[Tropposurfer]

And the hits just keep on coming! I wonder what song she will sing of her travels and associates? 

[Orton Rd]

13 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

Yes, he killed himself (or was murdered )in jail before the case came to trial and thus remain as just allegations 

Pretty obvious he paid somebody to kill him, he re did his will 2 days before making sure the money was safe for his brother

[welovesundaysatspace]

6 minutes ago, giddyup said:

Voicing an opinion, same as anyone else.

You didn’t voice any opinion. In fact, you are refusing to give your opinion. You are throwing in random facts, based on which we can easily see what your opinion probably is. I’m just wondering why you don’t have the balls to just say it out loud here, but have to do it in such a roundabout way instead. It makes you look like a coward, on top of the image that we already have of you. 

[BritManToo]

38 minutes ago, JCauto said:

So so glad it is exclusively the perverted Right who are the ones posting in favour of the disgusting sexual exploitation of minors. No wonder they cheerlead for the Donald.

I'm a Marxist, if that matters.

Are you suggesting the Clinton's are 'right wing'?

[giddyup]

9 minutes ago, Eindhoven said:

Sorry, what was your opinion? I must have missed it. 

Perhaps pay attention. See #142.

[giddyup]

2 minutes ago, Orton Rd said:

Pretty obvious he paid somebody to kill him, he re did his will 2 days before making sure the money was safe for his brother

He was making sure all the little money grabbers couldn't get their hands on it. Why is it obvious that he paid someone to kill him?

[giddyup]

4 minutes ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

You didn’t voice any opinion. In fact, you are refusing to give your opinion. You are throwing in random facts, based on which we can easily see what your opinion probably is. I’m just wondering why you don’t have the balls to just say it out loud here, but have to do it in such a roundabout way instead. It makes you look like a coward, on top of the image that we already have of you. 

Once again, read post #142. Try to keep up.

Edited July 3, 2020 by giddyup

[Eindhoven]

2 minutes ago, giddyup said:

Perhaps pay attention. See #142.

 

I paid attention and addressed what you wrote in post #156. Perhaps it is you who needs to pay attention?

Either way, from your replies, you appear to be morally bankrupt. So I think it best that we end the conversation here.

 

Edited July 3, 2020 by Eindhoven

[giddyup]

9 minutes ago, Eindhoven said:

What giddyup appears to be stating, correct me if I am wrong, is that you could get away with a lot of nasty poo in the past. So as long as you got away with it then, it's absolutely fine.

 

Is that it?

Read what ever you want into it, but that is not what I was saying.

[giddyup]

1 minute ago, Eindhoven said:

 

I paid attention and addressed what you wrote in post #156. Perhaps it is you who needs to pay attention?

Either way, from your replies, you appear to be morally bankrupt. So I think it best that we end the conversation here.

 

Whatever your opinion of me, and frankly I don't give a damn, I said what I think.

[CorpusChristie]

23 minutes ago, giddyup said:

Porn is everywhere, catering to every taste, no matter how deviant.

No it isnt , regular legal  porn is available everywhere , when it comes to to deviances , like child porn, animals , torture , rape etc , that isnt freely available .  

  Those kind of sites probably exist out there on the dark web for people trying to access that kind of stuff , but you wont find that kind of stuff on pornhub , and if you get caught with that kind of stuff , you will end up in the same place as Epstein 

[CorpusChristie]

10 minutes ago, giddyup said:

He was making sure all the little money grabbers couldn't get their hands on it. 

Are you referring to the children who made the allegations as "little money grabbers" ?

[rumak]

8 hours ago, ChipButty said:

Meanwhile recruiting other girls one of them recruited as many as 50 other girls

jeeez,  that's a lot of jerking off ! 

[Peterhua]

17 minutes ago, giddyup said:

Whatever your opinion of me, and frankly I don't give a damn, I said what I think.

Friendly with Gary Glitter and Jimmy Savill are you?

[giddyup]

20 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

No it isnt , regular legal  porn is available everywhere , when it comes to to deviances , like child porn, animals , torture , rape etc , that isnt freely available .  

  Those kind of sites probably exist out there on the dark web for people trying to access that kind of stuff , but you wont find that kind of stuff on pornhub , and if you get caught with that kind of stuff , you will end up in the same place as Epstein 

It's still available, illegal or not, child porn is probably about the only one not freely available, but there's plenty catering to underage girls. The girls may actually be 18 or over, but the suggestion is they are much younger. So is role playing rape, bondage, torture etc etc. BTW, there are plenty of sites besides Pornhub.

[giddyup]

27 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

Are you referring to the children who made the allegations as "little money grabbers" ?

Yes. All part of a class action suit with lawyers lining up to defend them. The sad thing is they probably won't get a thing, Epstein has tied it all up nicely in trusts etc.

Edited July 3, 2020 by giddyup

[Saint Nick]

6 minutes ago, giddyup said:

It's still available, illegal or not, child porn is probably about the only one not freely available, but there's plenty catering to underage girls. The girls may actually be 18 or over, but the suggestion is they are much younger. So is role playing rape, bondage, torture etc etc. BTW, there are plenty of sites besides Pornhub.

There is a difference, between some one DRESSING like a schoolgirl or ACTING like a schoolgirl and BEING a schoolgirl!

There is a difference between a ROLEPLAY of incest or rape and REAL incest or rape!

Here is a hint: one is ILLEGAL, the other one is not!

I'll let you figure out, which one is which!

[JackThompson]

6 hours ago, Walker88 said:

Maxwell's lawyer stated Thursday evening that AG barr requested to speak with Maxwell after her arrest, but Maxwell's lawyer refused to allow barr to see her.

 

One should find it odd that the AG would take such a special interest in this case, particularly after recently firing the Chief of SDNY. That the fired prosecutor Berman made a point of stating, upon his removal, that 'all cases currently being investigated by SDNY will continue unabated' also seems like something that should grab one's attention.

What makes you believe Berman wasn't covering for Epstein/Maxwell?  But, yes, Barr's dad gave Epstiein a job after he dropped out of university - at a prep-school for girls, no less.  That was before he magically got a Wall St job.  The "connections" are stunning.

If you want something interesting, look into who Ghislane's father was - his spy history, and for whom - then the "audio/video in every room" mansions in NY, FL, and the island.   Then look into the "Mega Group" - the money pool tied into Epstien and many other powerful people.

 

It's not a "party politics" thing - goes much higher than that - is an international crime syndicate operating in conjuction with a foreign spy agency, who was running a large-scale blackmail operation on some of the most powerful people in the world.  Remember, when Epstein got the light-sentence the 1st time, the prosecutor said there was an "intellgience" reason for this.

[Jai Dee]

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[JackThompson]

2 hours ago, lannarebirth said:

According to Epstein's Virgin Islands IT guy, Epstein had a very elaborate audio and video recording system installed all over the island. If those recordings exist, and are in the hands of a third party, say a lawyer or journalist, then I like Ghislaine's chances of living out the year.

There is drone-video on YT, put out just after he was arrested, of a crew "cleaning up" his island, before the FBI showed up.

[dunroaming]

9 hours ago, mrfill said:

You mean disappeared after stealing half a billion from the Mirror pension fund and living on his megayacht from which he just fell off... A fine father figure to this ghastly witch.

A mega yacht named after her! 

[welovesundaysatspace]

27 minutes ago, JackThompson said:

There is drone-video on YT, put out just after he was arrested, of a crew "cleaning up" his island, before the FBI showed up.

There’s lots of videos on YouTube that say it is showing X while in fact it’s showing Y. 

[herfiehandbag]

2 hours ago, Eindhoven said:

 

Which law have you stated? 

 

Let's just begin with the first two on the list;

 

 

There are caveats in almost every case. So to quote a law, you would also need to include all of the information.

As you know, ignorance of the law is not an excuse.

Try it. You can write us letters from jail.

This thread has moved away from discussing the Epstein/Ghislaine business, and any possible links with prominent public personna such as Bill Clinton and Prince Andrew and rather turned into a disturbing (and at times somewhat clumsy) attempt to entrap a poster/posters into admitting a predilection for or support for sex with underage children. 

 

I am not (heavens above) nor ever likely to be a moderator, but if you suspect a poster of advocating paedophilia, surely the proper response is to report the post which leads you to believe that, rather than engage in attempts (which are vaguely reminiscent of Herr Flick of the Gestapo) to lead him to admit to something which I am sure that he neither means nor approves of!

Edited July 3, 2020 by herfiehandbag
Failure to "capitalise" the first person singular pronoun!

[welovesundaysatspace]

 

18 minutes ago, herfiehandbag said:

if you suspect a poster of advocating paedophilia, surely the proper response is to report the post which leads you to believe that,

Did you report any of his posts? 
 

18 minutes ago, herfiehandbag said:

 

rather than engage in attempts (which are vaguely reminiscent of Herr Flick of the Gestapo) to lead him to admit to something

That didn’t happen. 
 

18 minutes ago, herfiehandbag said:

which I am sure that he neither means nor approves of!

I wouldn’t be so sure about that.