Florida sets one-day record with over 15,000 new COVID cases, more than most countries

[GroveHillWanderer]

2 hours ago, Brunolem said:

To protect against viruses, you need an N95 mask, which is not the usual mask that doctors and nurses wear in hospitals...

 

That's just untrue - N95 masks provide a higher level of protection than say, surgical masks but every study that's ever looked at this, has found that even masks that do not meet the N95 standard will still reduce the viral load reaching the wearer's nose and mouth (just not as much). And in any event, the main utility in wearing a mask is to protect others and as I said earlier, any protective effect they may have is just a bonus.

 

According to the same Oxford University study I mentioned above:

 

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The general public does not need to wear surgical masks or respirators. We find that masks made from high quality material such as high-grade cotton, multiple layers and particularly hybrid constructions are effective. For instance, combining cotton and silk or flannel provide over 95% filtration, so wearing a mask can protect others.

 

Edited July 13, 2020 by GroveHillWanderer

[candide]

1 hour ago, JulesMad said:

Congratulations, Florida! I am sure that with the valuable help of the all-knowing and most intelligent president you CAN remain No 1 in the Corona deaths race. Do as your president says and america will stay the Best and  the Greatest when it comes to deaths of Corona and other stupid actions.

Trump will surely claim he's not responsible as Florida did not follow the official guidelines! ????

[Sujo]

1 hour ago, car720 said:

Don't worry boys the University of Queensland, Australia for those that don't know, is making a vaccine then we can all go back to dreaming of bedding young Thai girls again.

A fine institution. Enjoyed my studies and parties there 

[Sujo]

3 hours ago, Krataiboy said:

One can only be grateful you are not a registrar.

Nor you a scientist giving advice.

[brucec64]

10 hours ago, Siamjim said:

again more doom feed of MSM increases fears but  where's the report on decreased deaths. give the whole news not just cherry picks for the narratives

 

Deaths are coming - they just lag a little bit. But as soon as someone quotes MSM in their post, any response is a waste, because conspiracy types will only accept information that fits their Trumpian narrative. 

 

But on the plus side, you can save money by buying smaller masks when you only breathe through your mouth.

 

[brucec64]

2 hours ago, JulesMad said:

Congratulations, Florida! I am sure that with the valuable help of the all-knowing and most intelligent president you CAN remain No 1 in the Corona deaths race. Do as your president says and america will stay the Best and  the Greatest when it comes to deaths of Corona and other stupid actions.

For most of Floridians, if the Corona doesn't get them, they will most likely go as a result of a selfie accident, or some other Darwin award end.

[FritsSikkink]

13 hours ago, mtls2005 said:

 

Can't see the bulk of these anti-maskers, nor much of trump nation, taking a vaccine? I mean, unless they want to be tracked by Bill Gates.

 

 

You can be tracked by your mobile phone for decades.

[FritsSikkink]

13 hours ago, Siamjim said:

again more doom feed of MSM increases fears but  where's the report on decreased deaths. give the whole news not just cherry picks for the narratives

 

Deaths can't decrease, the won't get alive again. They can only go up. Can't even believe I am reading this nonsense.

 

[FritsSikkink]

10 hours ago, Bender Rodriguez said:

ok, but how many are in hospitals now or have died ?

 

if they would test more people in thailand, the numbers WILL / WOULD go up

There would be the same people in hospital, which is less than 80.

[FritsSikkink]

7 hours ago, Krataiboy said:

Not a fair comparison. Murder kills people, which is why it is illegal. There is no credible evidence to show not wearing a mask kills anyone, except possibly the wearer.

That you don't read scientific papers doesn't mean it isn't there.

[Krataiboy]

26 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said:

That you don't read scientific papers doesn't mean it isn't there.

I've read lots of them and quoted them in past postings. Have you?

[Saraburi121]

Have family in Florida and they are worried about finding care if they do catch it.  Hospitals are filling up in their area.  Guess the hoax theory goes out the window when hospitals start maxing out ICU. It’s all a hoax until it effects me.  In time I think it will effect all of us in one way or another. 
 

Leadership in the US is at an all time low and it’s leaders views have infected the world. I hope the virus ends soon in America both political and medical.

[shdmn]

The most successful bio-terrorist in human history.  Ask anyone!

https://www.salon.com/2020/07/13/dr-john-gartner-donald-trump-is-the-most-successful-bio-terrorist-in-human-history/

[heybruce]

14 hours ago, Krataiboy said:

Not a fair comparison. Murder kills people, which is why it is illegal. There is no credible evidence to show not wearing a mask kills anyone, except possibly the wearer.

Wearing face masks reduces spread of the virus, which saves lives.  Your "no credible evidence" claim is delusional.

 

"Yes, face masks combined with other preventive measures, such as frequent hand-washing and social distancing, help slow the spread of the virus."   https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/in-depth/coronavirus-mask/art-20485449

 

"At the beginning of the outbreak, public health officials thought that the virus was primarily transmitted by people touching contaminated objects or surfaces and then touching their face....But it has become clear that contact with virus-laden objects isn’t the major way that the coronavirus passes from person to person, says immunologist Robert Quigley....That explains the reasoning behind the CDC’s recommendation that everyone wear a mask in public: The covering may lessen the risk of mask wearers who don’t know they’re infected from passing the virus to someone else."https://www.sciencenews.org/article/covid-19-coronavirus-why-wearing-masks-controversial

 

"Face mask use could result in a large reduction in risk of infection (n=2647; aOR 0·15, 95% CI 0·07 to 0·34, RD −14·3%, −15·9 to −10·7; low certainty), with stronger associations with N95 or similar respirators compared with disposable surgical masks or similar (eg, reusable 12–16-layer cotton masks; p_interaction=0·090; posterior probability >95%, low certainty)."  https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31142-9/fulltext

[metisdead]

Some more posts containing links to conspiracy-pseudoscience sources have been removed as well as the replies.

 

Some off topic posts and replies have been removed.

[OZinPattaya]

On 7/12/2020 at 6:29 PM, LomSak27 said:

Just amazing. Wuhan is surging out of control in her state and this ignorant know nothing is out protesting. The surge is on Tara, POTUS has thrown in the towel; neither capable nor willing to help and here you insist on doubling down on dumb. It was bad up north, but now we have a full on excrement show going down in Elvis country.  

The key word is "wuhan" is it not? I.e., China, no?

[mtls2005]

Florida has more new daily cases than any other COUNTRY, save India or Brazil.

 

Disneyland remains open.

 

 

[heybruce]

The out of control epidemic resulting from mask denying Trump supporters will cost Trump the election.  It would be funny if it weren't so tragic.

[Rimmer]

Some 'Masks do no good' posts have been removed also replies, this is trolling and could lead to a suspension.

 

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[heybruce]

On 7/13/2020 at 1:17 AM, CALSinCM said:

Good to hear.  That much closer to herd immunity.

Herd immunity is conjecture, not proven fact.  Let's not bet hundreds of thousands of lives on conjecture.

[mtls2005]

Florida and Texas leading in new daily case numbers.

 

Florida governor desantis looks especially incompetent. His presidential hopes are swirling down the bowl, unless incompetence becomes a GOP platform plank.

 

 

[mtls2005]

gov. desantis blames the press for the virus surge, and he refers to it as a "blip".

 

 

 

The key, apparently, to reducing the new daily case levels in Florida involves:

 

not testing

not reporting

 

Voila.

Edited July 16, 2020 by mtls2005

[sangtip2]

On ‎7‎/‎13‎/‎2020 at 8:33 AM, mtls2005 said:

 

Almost every article and news report mentions the decreased death rate, and details the potential reasons. Maybe read past the headlines?

 

Two points:

 

some pointy-headed science-y types mention that death rates/tolls may increase, lagging the increase in cases.

 

surviving Covid may lead to long-term health impacts for individuals.

 

 

So if you're hanging your hat on "fewer deaths", congrats for being so crass, and thank you joining us in hoping any deaths can be avoided

Sauve qui peut

[Tug]

On 7/14/2020 at 5:05 PM, mtls2005 said:

Florida and Texas leading in new daily case numbers.

 

Florida governor desantis looks especially incompetent. His presidential hopes are swirling down the bowl, unless incompetence becomes a GOP platform plank.

 

 

Becomes the platform plank???imo that’s happened allready if any (Republican)dares to contradict trump they are gut stabbed by trump and ruined no sir they are allready there imo