44 minutes ago, Eibot said:

LOl, I expect the borders to be open by then and the quarantine rules to be mild. They can hop right back in. 

I think you are wrong, but I suspect there will be very many gambling that this is the case. When it gets to September 20th with no announcement of yet another amnesty, there will be gnashing of teeth and complaints about how unfair it is that there is no amnesty when the option of a simple border bounce is unavailable. I foresee a real mess, with immigration unsympathetic.

Note: has anyone else noticed that September 26th is exactly six months since the beginning of the first amnesty? I guess immigration feels that, for almost everyone not entitled to a long term extension, four to six months is long enough to leave.

Looks like if your `stranded` on a tourist visa it`s time to go home unless you can prove that you cant, thats the proposal, all others considered on a case by case basis.

4 minutes ago, BritTim said:

Note: has anyone else noticed that September 26th is exactly six months since the beginning of the first amnesty? I guess immigration feels that, for almost everyone not entitled to a long term extension, four to six months is long enough to leave.

and that September 26th is a Saturday! So get in early ...as it is Applications considered on case-by-case basis until Sept 26.

You may not want to leave it too late. 

 

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33 minutes ago, BritTim said:

I think you are wrong, but I suspect there will be very many gambling that this is the case. When it gets to September 20th with no announcement of yet another amnesty, there will be gnashing of teeth and complaints about how unfair it is that there is no amnesty when the option of a simple border bounce is unavailable. I foresee a real mess, with immigration unsympathetic.

"Grace period" sounds like this time they will announce it as the last extension, so they are presenting facts, and everybody has two months time to get some extension or leave. With the previous extension they left this open, so understandably many people waited what will happen.

Some people might hope that the borders open, but if by September 1st the borders are still closed to most people, then on 26th they will not suddenly allow tourists to cross, so by September 1st everybody who doesn't get an extension can buy a ticket out of Thailand (unless they open up the borders until then, which i highly doubt). Due to many people leaving Thailand in this time frame, there will also not be such a problem with cancelled flights.

Edited July 17, 20205 yr by jackdd

9 minutes ago, jackdd said:

Due to many people leaving Thailand in this time frame, there will also not be such a problem with cancelled flights.

Hopefully true. However, I still think many flights will be uneconomic when only carrying passengers out of Thailand and not in. There will continue to be some airlines advertising flights they have no intention of actually providing.

Please note the Sept. 26 date has not yet been approved by the Thai Cabinet, and the date could change. It could be approved as early as July 21.

34 minutes ago, BritTim said:

Note: has anyone else noticed that September 26th is exactly six months since the beginning of the first amnesty? I guess immigration feels that, for almost everyone not entitled to a long term extension, four to six months is long enough to leave.

yup six months or 180 days is the exact timeframe where one may be considered (tax) resident in a country

How’s everyone supposed to get out when there’s hardly any flights leaving because there’s hardly any international flights arriving?

Just now, lemonjelly said:

How’s everyone supposed to get out when there’s hardly any flights leaving because there’s hardly any international flights arriving?

Loads leaving to Europe everyday and often half empty, easy to get a flight sometime in the last 4 months.

 

29 minutes ago, Jim P said:

Loads leaving to Europe everyday and often half empty, easy to get a flight sometime in the last 4 months.

 

The computer says “No”.... so many flights are being cancelled, it’s a lottery trying to book a flight which will prolly get.... you guessed it, cancelled and there you are, waiting for your refund that’s floating around somewhere in cyberspace 

 

https://aot-portal.kdlab.dev/bkk

 

 

 

Edited July 17, 20205 yr by lemonjelly

30 minutes ago, lemonjelly said:

How’s everyone supposed to get out when there’s hardly any flights leaving because there’s hardly any international flights arriving?

Depending on where you are going, and how much you are concerned about ticket prices, right now it is pretty easy to get flights. I would not bank on available seats come September though.

Just now, lemonjelly said:

The computer says “No”.... so many flights are being cancelled, it’s a lottery trying to book a flight which will prolly get.... you guessed it, cancelled and there you are, waiting for your refund that’s floating around somewhere in cyberspace 

 

https://aot-portal.kdlab.dev/bkk

There are a lot of advertised flights which airlines have no intention of providing. However, flight numbers that left as scheduled in previous days can be expected to leave in following days (based on experience). You just need to be careful which flight you book.

i predict the second waved of covid19 will hit world wide and they will extend amnesty till the end of the year

1 minute ago, BritTim said:

Depending on where you are going, and how much you are concerned about ticket prices, right now it is pretty easy to get flights. I would not bank on available seats come September though.

It’s easy to book flights, but how many flights is one prepared to book before the winning ticket to the flight that wasn’t cancelled turns up?  
 

https://aot-portal.kdlab.dev/bkk

 

1 hour ago, clorox said:

i predict the second waved of covid19 will hit world wide and they will extend amnesty till the end of the year

I predict that the second wave will hit certain countries, at the same time the first wave continues to worsen in others. The likelihood is that this will not induce the Thai authorities to provide a further general amnesty. The mistake many make is to assume that the Thai authorities arrange matters for the convenience of foreigners. They do not. There are arguments in favour of keeping most foreigners here for economic reasons. However, all the signs are that this is not a determining factor in Thailand's Covid-19 planning.

9 hours ago, BritTim said:

Note: has anyone else noticed that September 26th is exactly six months since the beginning of the first amnesty? I guess immigration feels that, for almost everyone not entitled to a long term extension, four to six months is long enough to leave.

Actually the first amnesty was approved on April 7th and posted in the royal gazette on the 8th.The extension of it from April 30th to July 31st was approved on April 21st by the cabinet.

Not sure where September 26th came from but I think it will be Sept 30th.

22 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

Actually the first amnesty was approved on April 7th and posted in the royal gazette on the 8th.The extension of it from April 30th to July 31st was approved on April 21st by the cabinet.

Not sure where September 26th came from but I think it will be Sept 30th.

I am aware of that. However, the first amnesty covered everyone legally in Thailand as of March 26th. I strongly suspect that the September 26th date anticipated for the end of the (probably) final grace period was chosen for that reason. I can imagine the argument being made by those who want the soft approach to end: "six months is long enough".

8 minutes ago, BritTim said:

I am aware of that. However, the first amnesty covered everyone legally in Thailand as of March 26th.

The amnesty covered people that were here on March 26 due to that being the day that the emergency decree went into effect.  That is when the border crossings were closed and flights in were no longer allowed.  

 I still think it will be the 30th since that is normally the day that new flights into the country rules and such are valid to. 

12 hours ago, BritTim said:

I think you are wrong, but I suspect there will be very many gambling that this is the case. When it gets to September 20th with no announcement of yet another amnesty, there will be gnashing of teeth and complaints about how unfair it is that there is no amnesty when the option of a simple border bounce is unavailable. I foresee a real mess, with immigration unsympathetic.

They simply can't keep the borders closed for that long due to financial reason. Hence medical tourism is also planned to keep going ahead. Besides this, I don't think its much of a gamble for many.

 

The big gamble would to be leave Thailand and not knowing when you can enter again. 

11 hours ago, lemonjelly said:

The computer says “No”.... so many flights are being cancelled, it’s a lottery trying to book a flight which will prolly get.... you guessed it, cancelled and there you are, waiting for your refund that’s floating around somewhere in cyberspace 

 

https://aot-portal.kdlab.dev/bkk

The computer says I can get a flight to London tomorrow with EVA and that my friend flew out with Quatar this week on a virtually empty plane, nobody from Europe is `stranded`

 

 

 

hope everything atleast get back to normal by the end of sept and maybe land border opening, but if i were you i have a solid second plan

4 hours ago, Eibot said:

They simply can't keep the borders closed for that long due to financial reason.

I heard that argument for why the borders would open in May, June, July and August. There are economic costs to tight border control, but Thailand has decided it is unwilling to kill tens of thousands of its citizens to protect tourism related businesses. Other countries within the region have made similar decisions. You believe they will have a sudden change of heart. I do not.

 

Eventually, I do see travel bubbles allowing free movement between Covid-19 free countries based on bilateral agreements. It is just possible these might begin to appear by September, but that is optimistic, and I would not make any plans based on such an assumption.

3 hours ago, clorox said:

hope everything atleast get back to normal by the end of sept and maybe land border opening, but if i were you i have a solid second plan

IMHO "normal" as it pertains to pre-pandemic is not feasible without a vaccine. The fear is if they open to tourists in two months the rabid contagion of this virus could spike a second wave. I talked with the owner of one of the largest visa run services in Bangkok and he speculates the borders for visa runs will not open until early next year. 

I just read on news. Saying amnesty till sep 26

 

https://www.thephuketnews.com/foreigners-can-apply-for-visa-extensions-after-july-31-76716.php

 

Edited July 18, 20205 yr by problemfarang

7 minutes ago, problemfarang said:

I just read on news. Saying amnesty till sep 26

That is just one of many news articles since yesterday about it.

As I said elsewhere, this if confirmed is bad news for those of who would like to return to our retirement homes in Thailand.

21 minutes ago, Geordie59 said:

As I said elsewhere, this if confirmed is bad news for those of who would like to return to our retirement homes in Thailand.

What does the one thing have to do with the other?

6 minutes ago, jackdd said:

What does the one thing have to do with the other?

Correct. 

The allowable incoming numbers greatly depends on the capability here for all the necessary prevention measures. 

Even oversea Thai citizens in some countries still waiting.