Popular Post webfact Posted July 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 28, 2020 New witnesses key to charges being dropped against Red Bull ‘Boss’: Thai media Graphic: PPTV Thai media continued to explore every angle in the controversial case of Red Bull heir Vorayuth "Boss" Yoovidhya who drove his Ferrari into a Thong Lo policeman and killed him in September 2012. The case has been sensationally thrust back into the public spotlight after it was revealed that a decision was made by the public prosecutor's office to drop all charges. One media has delved into the case and uncovered the witnesses who years after the event now say they know what happened. PPTV 36 reported that on the 4th of December 2019, seven years after the accident, two witnesses gave new information. They said that sources at the public prosecutors' office indicated that these were an air force man with the rank of "air marshall" and a man called Mr J (whose name started with the Thai letter จ - jor/jaan). They were in a pick-up that had been following Sen Sgt Wichian Klanprasert down the road. Just before the accident they said that the policeman on his motorcycle was in the far left lane by the footpath. They were in the second lane and the Ferrari was in the third lane by the central reservation. They were sure that the Ferrari was doing 60 - 80 kmph only. The policeman suddenly went into the second lane causing them to swerve into the lane nearest the footpath. The policeman then went into the third lane in front of the Ferrari who could not possibly avoid a collision. They completely blamed the policeman for the accident that took his life. The media said that prosecutors gave weight to the views of these two witnesses. The article did not adequately explain why it took seven years for their testimony to come forward. They said that their testimony contradicted previous assessments by accident investigators that the Ferrari was doing 177 kmph. Source: PPTV -- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2020-07-28 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates 2 3 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post colinneil Posted July 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 28, 2020 Just a load of BS, new witnesses my a++e. Probably been paid to dream up their stories. The Attorney Generals office are just making themselves look absolutely pathetic, expecting anybody to believe these so-called witnesses. 81 18 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kadilo Posted July 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 28, 2020 Just now, colinneil said: Just a load of BS, new witnesses my a++e. Probably been paid to dream up their stories. The Attorney Generals office are just making themselves look absolutely pathetic, expecting anybody to believe these so-called witnesses. Not just any old witness, but an “Air Marshall” Surely someone in that position wouldn’t tell porkies ???? 8 50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thaiwrath Posted July 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 28, 2020 10 minutes ago, webfact said: They completely blamed the policeman for the accident that took his life. 13 1 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RotBenz8888 Posted July 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 28, 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, webfact said: The article did not adequately explain why it took seven years for their testimony to come forward. And if these two new witnesses aren't enough, I'm sure there'll pop up a few more. Endless resources.... Edited July 28, 2020 by RotBenz8888 28 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post thequietman Posted July 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 28, 2020 Even if it were true, leaving the scene of an accident and not rendering assistance is a criminal offence. If he had remained, it's very likely that he would have failed a soberiety test - a crime. Driving in the far right lane at 60 kph while not overtaking- a crime. Stating that he wasn't driving the vehicle, when he was - a crime. Lying to the police - a crime. Even if totally not his fault, driving with a person trapped beneath your car causing their death - definitely a f@@k&*g crime. 76 17 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rkidlad Posted July 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 28, 2020 Witness statements aren’t reliable at the best of times. Now we’re expected to believe the statements after 7 years? The police have all the evidence they need. If they’re still unsure they could ask a foreign expert in road collisions. The fact that two people suddenly pop up saying they remember how he was driving safely within the speed limit and the cooper just pulled out in front of him and there was nothing he could do to is obviously a red herring that they’ve been paid. 7 years after one of Thailand’s most notorious injustices happens and then you decide to tell the police your vivid recollection of that night. Everyone involved in this case is just digging themselves into a deeper hole. 38 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bluesofa Posted July 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 28, 2020 4 minutes ago, thequietman said: Even if it were true, leaving the scene of an accident and not rendering assistance is a criminal offence. If he had remained, it's very likely that he would have failed a soberiety test - a crime. Driving in the far right lane at 60 kph while not overtaking- a crime. Stating that he wasn't driving the vehicle, when he was - a crime. Lying to the police - a crime. Even if totally not his fault, driving with a person trapped beneath your car causing their death - definitely a f@@k&*g crime. Details, details. Don't bother the authorities with details. It's taken them long enough to dream this one up. P.S. for ten million Baht, I can remember seeing it exactly as the air marshall described. The fact I live in Udon - pah, details again. 9 1 29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post skorchio Posted July 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 28, 2020 This is beyond shamefully embarrassing. 17 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mr Meeseeks Posted July 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 28, 2020 (edited) As I posted in another thread, the forensic investigation gave clear evidence of a rear-ended impact to the Policeman's motorcycle at 177km/h. How evidence that two witnesses give some eight years later can be regarded as admissible and more accurate over and above forensics is ridiculous. As in the Koh Tao debacle, silly, fat, corrupt, old Thai men in stupid uniforms with IQ's less than 90 expect everyone to believe what they say without question, regardless of how nonsensical and impossible. Edited July 28, 2020 by Mr Meeseeks 34 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NE1 Posted July 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 28, 2020 So will the dead policemans family have to return the money the " Red Bull " gang give them as compensation ? 12 3 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post anchadian Posted July 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 28, 2020 Even with these two new witnesses, this matter should still go to court......not all 'charges dismissed'. 8 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ThailandRyan Posted July 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 28, 2020 It has gone Viral and now worldwide on the stage of infamy. I just got a call from a buddy in Nevada who said he was going to make a bet at one of the casinos that the case would be re-started as the Thai prosecutors failed to have the time frozen for all the charges as he had fled the country. When someone flees, the time until a charge falls off of the books is generally stopped while the warrant is active. Only then is the time restarted after either the warrant period runs out or the individual is apprehended. You generally can not outrun a case as they will refile the charge and reactivate the warrant, but then this is Thailand.... 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sammieuk1 Posted July 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 28, 2020 An air marshal should be easy to track down should be no more than 20,000 of them but the mysterious Mr J will turn out to be some random joker no doubt???? 6 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RotBenz8888 Posted July 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 28, 2020 54 minutes ago, webfact said: two witnesses gave new information. Two more people added to the list of "unusually wealthy"... 10 1 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RichardColeman Posted July 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 28, 2020 1 hour ago, webfact said: One media has delved into the case and uncovered the witnesses who years after the event now say they know what happened. They said that sources at the public prosecutors' office indicated that these were an air force man with the rank of "air marshall" and a man called Mr J (whose name started with the Thai letter จ - jor/jaan). So, with all the known importance of the case in the media, an Air Marshall, a position I would say hold certain importance and knowledge of the world, takes years to remember it and come forwards ? What complete bull 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bluesofa Posted July 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 28, 2020 5 minutes ago, RichardColeman said: So, with all the known importance of the case in the media, an Air Marshall, a position I would say hold certain importance and knowledge of the world, takes years to remember it and come forwards ? What complete bull It makes you wonder what he was like flying a plane. Split-second decade decisions. 5 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Matzzon Posted July 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 28, 2020 1 hour ago, webfact said: The article did not adequately explain why it took seven years for their testimony to come forward. Easy! It´s the time it took to agree about the extremely offensive amount that had to be paid. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rancid Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 Like the script from a bad B grade Banana Republic movie... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 2 is 1 Posted July 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 28, 2020 Nobody drive so slow in night time in Bangkok! And whit Ferrari he drive more slow than kids whit moped! They can't watch from marks on road or how bad was Ferrari/policeman motor damage ! There can right estimate how fast he drive! 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rkidlad Posted July 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 28, 2020 25 minutes ago, RichardColeman said: So, with all the known importance of the case in the media, an Air Marshall, a position I would say hold certain importance and knowledge of the world, takes years to remember it and come forwards ? What complete bull Not only did it take 7 years for this 'Air Marshall' to connect the dots and come forward as a witness, he also remembers the incident like it was yesterday. Remembering vividly how it was all the police officer's fault and the Red Bull rat could do nothing to avoid hitting him. Must be quite easy to become an Air Marshal in Thailand if you can pass the tests with this dangerously low-level of critical thinking skills. A position so easy to attain that I reckon even an animal, I don't know, something small and cute, could even be one. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Geoffggi Posted July 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 28, 2020 1 hour ago, webfact said: PPTV 36 reported that on the 4th of December 2019, seven years after the accident, two witnesses gave new information. Reliable witness ? I really don't think so .................LOL 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mavideol Posted July 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 28, 2020 1 hour ago, colinneil said: Just a load of BS, new witnesses my a++e. Probably been paid to dream up their stories. The Attorney Generals office are just making themselves look absolutely pathetic, expecting anybody to believe these so-called witnesses. and miraculously one his a military thus given more credibility to the liars 555 unbelievable, after all these years, they have the face to say shxx like that 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mavideol Posted July 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 28, 2020 1 hour ago, colinneil said: Just a load of BS, new witnesses my a++e. Probably been paid to dream up their stories. The Attorney Generals office are just making themselves look absolutely pathetic, expecting anybody to believe these so-called witnesses. indicated that these were an air force man with the rank of "air marshall" and a man called Mr J (whose name started with the Thai letter จ - jor/jaan). and miraculously one is an military person, they are trying to add more credibility to their lies.... aren't they afraid of losing face (if they still had any) make stupid statements like that after all these years of lying 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavideol Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, Mavideol said: indicated that these were an air force man with the rank of "air marshall" and a man called Mr J (whose name started with the Thai letter จ - jor/jaan). and miraculously one is an military person, they are trying to add more credibility to their lies.... aren't they afraid of losing face (if they still had any) make stupid statements like that after all these years of lying again half a sleep and double the post... better take a vacation 555 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bodga Posted July 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 28, 2020 2 hours ago, colinneil said: Just a load of BS, new witnesses my a++e. Probably been paid to dream up their stories. The Attorney Generals office are just making themselves look absolutely pathetic, expecting anybody to believe these so-called witnesses. No, no way air chief vice marshal rear admiral generals dont lie Colin, youre mistaken, be brave and admit it...............psssssst 10 million hints for you if you do.???? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post richard_smith237 Posted July 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 28, 2020 2 hours ago, webfact said: The article did not adequately explain why it took seven years for their testimony to come forward. A quick look at the ‘witnesses’ bank accounts will answer that question !!! 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Neeranam Posted July 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 28, 2020 It's the way things work here and will soon be forgotten, as Chalerm's son has been by most. His crime of shooting shooting a policeman in the head was a lot worse and the 22 witnesses never saw anything! He even got a job in the police AND government after it!!! 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post herfiehandbag Posted July 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 28, 2020 2 hours ago, Kadilo said: Not just any old witness, but an “Air Marshall” Surely someone in that position wouldn’t tell porkies ???? Or ride around in a pick up truck? 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phyx1u5 Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 gotta check with topgear but I'm pretty sure these Ferraris can stop from 80k to 0 in less than a second Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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