Harris makes campaign-trail debut with Democrat Biden, criticizes Trump on coronavirus

[rabas]

26 minutes ago, Redline said:

They don’t vote for VP ????

In the US they vote for a ticket, that includes the president and VP.

 

The vice president is elected indirectly by the voters of each state and the District of Columbia through the Electoral College, a body of electors formed every four years for the sole purpose of electing the president and vice president to concurrent four-year terms. wiki

Edited August 13, 2020 by rabas

[Monkeyrobot]

I wonder how long before sleepy Joe forgets her name? 

[expat_4_life]

18 minutes ago, stevenl said:

I think the post you quoted refers to expanding powers, not numbers. But since it wasn't my post I can't speak for it.

I can tell you though that in numbers Trump is at about 2/3 of Obama, Trump in less than 4 years, Obama in 8. 

My whole point is nothing to be gained by comparing numbers, what were they issued for, An unprecedented

pandemic, a natural disaster, starting an executive branch declared war? There are definitely historically much

higher levels of executive orders. Nothing is to be determined by the numbers, it's a bad comparison.  If you

want to try and say "expanding powers" (which is a claim u did not make), then you have to demonstrate how.

 

I have a personal view that congress has abdicated a lot of their powers simply because they don't want to be

held responsible for anything that gets in the way of them getting re-elected, so they have empowered the

executive branch (president is term limited). While the executive may get legally challenged, it mostly all politics and theatre.

 

Edited August 13, 2020 by expat_4_life

[earlinclaifornia]

3 minutes ago, Monkeyrobot said:

I wonder how long before sleepy Joe forgets her name? 

Better that you brush up, as so far trumps appears the one with no cognizant abilities. Do you watch the news?

 

[dunroaming]

6 hours ago, Thailand said:

The next two presidents of the US, an interesting combo.

It's hard to understand how the Democrats can put forward such pathetic candidates.  Is that really the best they can do?  Admittedly they are up against a total imbecile but surely out of the thousands of eligible people they could find a couple of potential leaders.

 

The USA used to be the powerhouse but due to Trump's continual screw ups it is now barely recognizable.  If there was ever a time when the country needed new leadership and direction it is now and you get presented with Joe Biden.  Get a grip America! You are already a laughing stock around the world thanks to your orange buffoon, do you really believe that Biden will be your saviour?

[stevenl]

37 minutes ago, expat_4_life said:

My whole point is nothing to be gained by comparing numbers, what were they issued for, An unprecedented

pandemic, a natural disaster, starting an executive branch declared war? There are definitely historically much

higher levels of executive orders. Nothing is to be determined by the numbers, it's a bad comparison.  If you

want to try and say "expanding powers" (which is a claim u did not make), then you have to demonstrate how.

 

I have a personal view that congress has abdicated a lot of their powers simply because they don't want to be

held responsible for anything that gets in the way of them getting re-elected, so they have empowered the

executive branch (president is term limited). While the executive may get legally challenged, it mostly all politics and theatre.

 

Nothing to be gained by comparing numbers does not rhyme with your posts on this.

 

You're confusing 2 posters.

[Thingamabob]

This will result in an easy win for Trump come November. 

[Joe well ya know]

54 minutes ago, Monkeyrobot said:

I wonder how long before sleepy Joe forgets her name? 

Whose name?

[Dap]

8 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Are you sure that this is what the majority of Americans want. Yesterday someone linked this wonderful video...

 

Great video but I gotta wonder if any of those interviewed would even understand the irony if they had an opportunity to watch themselves. Very funny in an extremely depressing manner. Thanks for your post.

[utalkin2me]

8 hours ago, stevenl said:

And the desperate search for criticism continues, nothing to show so far.

Maybe explain this in another way to you.

 

Trump was criticized for remarking about grabbing women's privates. A perfectly legit criticism, which he responded to by saying it was locker room talk. Lastly, the criticism did not end his presidential bid.

 

Harris was asked a number of legit questions about her prosecutorial career. Never once did she answer any of the criticisms, she just ignored and deflected. And. her presidential bid ended as a direct result.

 

She was quite literally gaining tons of ground in the polls, got asked a questions or two, and it ended her. 

 

And you call these criticisms "desperate searches"? Why did she not just answer the questions then? 

 

You keep asking for "legit criticisms". Here they are: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/17/opinion/kamala-harris-criminal-justice.html

 

The criticisms of her are 100% legit. It is you who seems to be confused by the fact that these criticisms need to be addressed.

Edited August 13, 2020 by utalkin2me

[dunroaming]

4 hours ago, rvaviator said:

Well I am sure we can say that non of this lot will ......

 

 

They clearly have much higher standards .....

This illustrates perfectly the American citizens that make up Trump's core support group.  It's an overused phrase but never more appropriate than now.

 

"You can't cure stupid".

 

[Tippaporn]

10 minutes ago, dunroaming said:

This illustrates perfectly the American citizens that make up Trump's core support group.  It's an overused phrase but never more appropriate than now.

 

"You can't cure stupid".

What a laughable, and sad, conclusion.  Do you think for a moment Klepper would include a Trump supporter whom he couldn't pull one over on?  What do you think Klepper's intentions were for making this video?  To discover the truth about Trump supporters?  Or to make them look stupid and infer disingenuously that all Trump supporters are the same?  So it's laughable that you could be so wrong and sad that you could be so easily taken by an obviously intentioned propaganda piece.

 

Edited August 13, 2020 by Tippaporn

[dunroaming]

3 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

What a laughable, and sad, conclusion.  Do you think for a moment Klepper would include a Trump supporter whom he couldn't pull one over on?  What do you think Klepper's intentions were for making this video?  To discover the truth about Trump supporters?  Or to make them look stupid and infer disingenuously that all Trump supporters are the same?  So it's laughable that you could be so wrong and sad that you could be so easily taken by an obviously intentioned propaganda piece.

 

Of course the objective was to highlight what typifies a Trump supporter, the video does that perfectly.  But just listen to any of his "fans" at any interview and you get the same response, over and over again.  You can deny it as much as you like but it's easy to find hundreds of examples of these idiots.  

 

So this piece may be propaganda but absolutely right on the nail!

 

But the good news is that Trumps support group is shrinking by the day.  Perhaps people really are starting to see the buffoon for what he is.  Unlikely, I know.

[earlinclaifornia]

46 minutes ago, utalkin2me said:

Maybe explain this in another way to you.

 

Trump was criticized for remarking about grabbing women's privates. A perfectly legit criticism, which he responded to by saying it was locker room talk. Lastly, the criticism did not end his presidential bid.

 

Harris was asked a number of legit questions about her prosecutorial career. Never once did she answer any of the criticisms, she just ignored and deflected. And. her presidential bid ended as a direct result.

 

She was quite literally gaining tons of ground in the polls, got asked a questions or two, and it ended her. 

 

And you call these criticisms "desperate searches"? Why did she not just answer the questions then? 

 

You keep asking for "legit criticisms". Here they are: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/17/opinion/kamala-harris-criminal-justice.html

 

The criticisms of her are 100% legit. It is you who seems to be confused by the fact that these criticisms need to be addressed.

The Senator whom she replaced (Barbra Boxer) wrote today she should admit the mistakes and just move on. Who among us have not made mistakes? She like myself can admit and move on. That child in the WH will never admit a mistake. The support Biden has appeared as no match for Harris candidacy. Hence, she left the race for good reason. Who among us have made intelligent decisions once the writing was on the wall?

https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/former-senator-barbara-boxer-says-kamala-harris-should-apologize-for-her-prosecutorial-record-if-she-believes-she-erred-221928655.html

Edited August 13, 2020 by earlinclaifornia

[Nigel Garvie]

8 hours ago, pegman said:

What a boring debut, but is exactly what that country needs at this point a boring and competent administration. Good luck to Joe and Kamala.

I watched Harris's speech live on BBC last evening at the virtual campaign event. She was inspiring, and careful not to let her obviously great intelligence show too much. She was certainly not boring by any stretch of the imagination. 

 

Genuine elections are very rarely won by the the far left, most voters are middle of the road, like it or not. The horror of seeing Corbyn hand Johnson a huge majority, because the Labour left were too busy fighting for control of their own party, and because Corbyn was vastly unpopular with the ordinary voter, will last a long time. 

 

Warren (Who I supported) and Sanders would be a weaker option to defeat 45, which is the most important thing. After that being done the Senate is the crucial battle.

 

 

 

 

[theonetrueaussie]

5 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Let's get real now instead of such alarmist silliness.

 

Biden-Harris is a center left ticket.

 

Neither wants to defund the police.

 

Neither wants open borders.

 

Neither wants no law enforcement.

 

Neither wants everything free. Both are pro capitalism. 

 

Both do want to reverse 45's tax cut for billionaires. Such a move would be popular and justified. It won't happen unless the democrats take the senate.

 

I won't touch the globalism bugaboo. There is a happy medium between toxic isolationist hyper nationalism, especially white nationalism and globalism. 

"As far as policies go, Harris supports "Medicare for All", the "Green New Deal", and late-term abortion."
These are all FAR left ideologies she even supports socialism/communism submitting multiple proposals in her time to takeover labor markets and give the government much much more control over the people of the USA while taking away their freedoms....

History has taught us that giving up your freedoms has NEVER ended well but hey I'm sure it's worth it this time just for some free stuff right......

[spidermike007]

5 hours ago, Baerboxer said:

 

Biden - decent - 55555555555555555555555!

 

Oh, sorry I forgot. It's ok for left politicians to be totally corrupt, line their pockets and those of family and friends. Do as we say not as we do and all that.

You are forgetting one important fact. ALL politicians are corrupt. Left, right, center, green. All of them. 

[Tippaporn]

5 minutes ago, dunroaming said:

30 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

What a laughable, and sad, conclusion.  Do you think for a moment Klepper would include a Trump supporter whom he couldn't pull one over on?  What do you think Klepper's intentions were for making this video?  To discover the truth about Trump supporters?  Or to make them look stupid and infer disingenuously that all Trump supporters are the same?  So it's laughable that you could be so wrong and sad that you could be so easily taken by an obviously intentioned propaganda piece.

Of course the objective was to highlight what typifies a Trump supporter, the video does that perfectly.  But just listen to any of his "fans" at any interview and you get the same response, over and over again.  You can deny it as much as you like but it's easy to find hundreds of examples of these idiots.  

 

So this piece may be propaganda but absolutely right on the nail!

 

But the good news is that Trumps support group is shrinking by the day.  Perhaps people really are starting to see the buffoon for what he is.  Unlikely, I know.

LOL.  So you state it's propaganda but it's true?  You need to look up the definition of propaganda because your answer shows that you don't know what it means.

 

Aside from that my reply to you went completely over your head as you opened with:  "Of course the objective was to highlight what typifies a Trump supporter, the video does that perfectly."  

[stevenl]

57 minutes ago, utalkin2me said:

Maybe explain this in another way to you.

 

Trump was criticized for remarking about grabbing women's privates. A perfectly legit criticism, which he responded to by saying it was locker room talk. Lastly, the criticism did not end his presidential bid.

 

Harris was asked a number of legit questions about her prosecutorial career. Never once did she answer any of the criticisms, she just ignored and deflected. And. her presidential bid ended as a direct result.

 

She was quite literally gaining tons of ground in the polls, got asked a questions or two, and it ended her. 

 

And you call these criticisms "desperate searches"? Why did she not just answer the questions then? 

 

You keep asking for "legit criticisms". Here they are: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/17/opinion/kamala-harris-criminal-justice.html

 

The criticisms of her are 100% legit. It is you who seems to be confused by the fact that these criticisms need to be addressed.

You really don't see the difference? You're able to define the Trump criticism, for Harris it stops at 'a number of legit questions'.

Vague conjecture, nothing more.

[scorecard]

12 hours ago, Tug said:

What a difference clear concise leadership not a bunch of trump gibberish refreshing a nice change imo they will head up an excellent TEAM and get us moving in the right direction more fact science based leadership and addressing the inequalities we have in our country I’m delighted!

I understand Joe Biden has mentioned he would be a 1 term president.

 

I'm not from the US so my knowledge of how this works is far from complete. Others have said that if he resigned at the end of the 1st term that would automatically put his VP into the presidency.

 

Is that correct? If so is this partly a plan to get a Democrat woman president? 

[Nigel Garvie]

3 minutes ago, theonetrueaussie said:

"As far as policies go, Harris supports "Medicare for All", the "Green New Deal", and late-term abortion."
These are all FAR left ideologies she even supports socialism/communism submitting multiple proposals in her time to takeover labor markets and give the government much much more control over the people of the USA while taking away their freedoms....

History has taught us that giving up your freedoms has NEVER ended well but hey I'm sure it's worth it this time just for some free stuff right......

Good lord, since when has "Medicare for all" been a far left ideology". The whole of Europe looks upon this as simply standard civilised practice. Much the same for "Green environmental policies". 

[earlinclaifornia]

1 minute ago, scorecard said:

I understand Joe Biden has mentioned he would be a 1 term president.

 

I'm not from the US so my knowledge of how this works is far from complete. Others have said that if he resigned at the end of the 1st term that would automatically put his VP into the presidency.

 

Is that correct? If so is this partly a plan to get a Democrat woman president? 

Let me help here. He never said that but the opposition has said that. If he does decide to not rn for reelection the field is open to the party's elected replacement during the forth coming primaries. 

[stevenl]

2 minutes ago, scorecard said:

I understand Joe Biden has mentioned he would be a 1 term president.

 

I'm not from the US so my knowledge of how this works is far from complete. Others have said that if he resigned at the end of the 1st term that would automatically put his VP into the presidency.

 

Is that correct? If so is this partly a plan to get a Democrat woman president? 

No, he had not said he would be a one term president.

 

After (or better, about 2 months before the end of) term 1 there will be a new election, whether trump, pence, Biden or Harris is president.

 

 

[Sujo]

7 minutes ago, scorecard said:

I understand Joe Biden has mentioned he would be a 1 term president.

 

I'm not from the US so my knowledge of how this works is far from complete. Others have said that if he resigned at the end of the 1st term that would automatically put his VP into the presidency.

 

Is that correct? If so is this partly a plan to get a Democrat woman president? 

Election every 4 years. All in. If he pulls out another takes his place. Still election.

[Opl]

1 hour ago, dunroaming said:

This illustrates perfectly the American citizens that make up Trump's core support group.  It's an overused phrase but never more appropriate than now.

 

"You can't cure stupid".

 

 

Trump's influence toxicity :

 

Trump: ""How come we never saw Obama helping the Katrina victims?" inquired one typical tweet. "Oh, that's right. He was golfing at the time." ("As many of us remember, George W. Bush was president when Katrina made landfall in August 2005. Obama was still representing Illinois in the U. S. Senate.")

https://www.chicagotribune.com/columns/clarence-page/ct-perspec-page-obama-katrina-trump-20170901-story.html

 

Trump supporter: "Barack Obama had big part in 9/11... not being around ... never in the Office.." 

 

 

Edited August 13, 2020 by Opl

[Eric Loh]

17 minutes ago, theonetrueaussie said:

"As far as policies go, Harris supports "Medicare for All", the "Green New Deal", and late-term abortion."
These are all FAR left ideologies she even supports socialism/communism submitting multiple proposals in her time to takeover labor markets and give the government much much more control over the people of the USA while taking away their freedoms....

History has taught us that giving up your freedoms has NEVER ended well but hey I'm sure it's worth it this time just for some free stuff right......

Green New Deal and abortion are progressive not far left. She also has released a health care plan that include room for private insurers. You hyperbole much. 

[Sujo]

15 minutes ago, theonetrueaussie said:

"As far as policies go, Harris supports "Medicare for All", the "Green New Deal", and late-term abortion."
These are all FAR left ideologies she even supports socialism/communism submitting multiple proposals in her time to takeover labor markets and give the government much much more control over the people of the USA while taking away their freedoms....

History has taught us that giving up your freedoms has NEVER ended well but hey I'm sure it's worth it this time just for some free stuff right......

Medicare for all is something the rest of the developed world enjoys. I dont know any country that tries to copy the US system.

 

Late term abortion is not so cut and dried, perhaps read about what is needed for that. But may i ask do you know of any law, any law at all that relates to what a man can do to his body.

 

The Green new deal is something to attain, to strive for, it wont happen overnite, why is that a bad thing?

[Jingthing]

34 minutes ago, Nigel Garvie said:

I watched Harris's speech live on BBC last evening at the virtual campaign event. She was inspiring, and careful not to let her obviously great intelligence show too much. She was certainly not boring by any stretch of the imagination. 

 

Genuine elections are very rarely won by the the far left, most voters are middle of the road, like it or not. The horror of seeing Corbyn hand Johnson a huge majority, because the Labour left were too busy fighting for control of their own party, and because Corbyn was vastly unpopular with the ordinary voter, will last a long time. 

 

Warren (Who I supported) and Sanders would be a weaker option to defeat 45, which is the most important thing. After that being done the Senate is the crucial battle.

 

 

 

 

Yes. Even center right Americans that voted for 45 last time to try something new will be attracted to this ticket of back to normalcy and restoration after the historic damage. Of course they won't agree with all specific policies of any democratic party ticket, but they can't stomach giving a second term to a fully revealed white nationalist massively corrupt wannabe fascist dictator that loves authoritarians abroad, that has zero regard for the rule of law and American democracy. 

Edited August 13, 2020 by Jingthing

[Phoenix Rising]

31 minutes ago, theonetrueaussie said:

"As far as policies go, Harris supports "Medicare for All", the "Green New Deal", and late-term abortion."
These are all FAR left ideologies she even supports socialism/communism submitting multiple proposals in her time to takeover labor markets and give the government much much more control over the people of the USA while taking away their freedoms....

 

"Fox News’ Chris Wallace Counters GOP Messaging on Kamala Harris: ‘She’s Not Far to the Left’"

 

 

[DrTuner]

Let's see if she gets elected. If she ever does travel to Finland after that, she might learn that her first name directly translates to "Awful". Harris the Awful, the great female warrior.