Michelle Obama launches scathing attack on Trump's leadership, says Biden will end the chaos

[Scott]

Inflammatory post reported and removed.  

 

[J Town]

4 minutes ago, pedro01 said:

The left have no policies. 

The left are so afraid to lose votes, they let extremists riot in their cities night after night.

The left have a deteriorating old man and a woman that slept her way to the top as their best and brightest.

 

All they can do is bang on about how bad Trump is.

 

They are set for a massive fall in November.

Why do you repeatedly post such nonsense? The 2020 Dem policies have been repeatedly posted on this thread. The rioters have been exposed as troublemakers on BOTH the left and the right. Everyone in the universe who lives is deteriorating, it's a constant state of being. And to sling a defamatory statement like that at a woman who has accomplished more than you could ever hope to is embarrassing.

 

Again, please stick to facts.

[J Town]

6 minutes ago, PoodThaiMaiDai said:

You are correct. Until the George Floyd death then he specifically said he would pick a black female.

 

Here is a news link.

Absolutely wrong! Your link states, correctly, that VP Biden was considering a black female. Straightening out ridiculous spin is exhausting.

[Rimmer]

An inflammatory troll post has been removed

[stevenl]

29 minutes ago, PoodThaiMaiDai said:

You are correct. Until the George Floyd death then he specifically said he would pick a black female.

 

Here is a news link.

Please read the link you gave, ""I am not committed to naming any (of the potential candidates), but the people I've named, and among them there are four Black women,"". 'among'

 

Just noticed J Town already mentioned similar.

Edited August 19, 2020 by stevenl

[pedro01]

32 minutes ago, J Town said:

Why do you repeatedly post such nonsense? The 2020 Dem policies have been repeatedly posted on this thread. The rioters have been exposed as troublemakers on BOTH the left and the right. Everyone in the universe who lives is deteriorating, it's a constant state of being. And to sling a defamatory statement like that at a woman who has accomplished more than you could ever hope to is embarrassing.

 

Again, please stick to facts.

Because it's true.

 

How many Democrat politicians have come out to oppose the violence in the streets? They seem to believe the protesters are mainstream. 

 

Although it seems my opinion is not on the correct side of center for this forum. 

 

What is the point of these threads, if you censor one side?

[J Town]

2 minutes ago, pedro01 said:

Because it's true.

 

How many Democrat politicians have come out to oppose the violence in the streets? They seem to believe the protesters are mainstream. 

 

Although it seems my opinion is not on the correct side of center for this forum. 

 

What is the point of these threads, if you censor one side?

This post is different from your previous post which I answered and you ignored. You keep dancing around, changing your narrative. If you can't stay focused then it's senseless to engage with you.

[GroveHillWanderer]

3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I wasn't talking about Trump, in case you hadn't noticed.

If the Dems want to win the presidency they need to provide a better message than Trump. So far they haven't, IMO.

All I see so far is two opposing parties saying the other is worse than them, nothing positive, nothing to lift the spirits, nothing to inspire hope for a better world.

There was precisely one paragraph in Michelle Obama's speech about Trump. The rest was very much a message of positivity, hope and inspiration.

 

Here are just a few extracts:

 

Quote

 

I've met so many of you. I've heard your stories. And through you, I have seen this country's promise. And thanks to so many who came before me, thanks to their toil and sweat and blood, I've been able to live that promise myself.

That's the story of America. All those folks who sacrificed and overcame so much in their own times because they wanted something more, something better for their kids.

 

Empathy: that's something I've been thinking a lot about lately. The ability to walk in someone else's shoes; the recognition that someone else's experience has value, too. Most of us practice this without a second thought. If we see someone suffering or struggling, we don't stand in judgment. We reach out because, "There, but for the grace of God, go I." It is not a hard concept to grasp. It's what we teach our children.

 

Quote

I know Joe. He is a profoundly decent man, guided by faith. He was a terrific vice president. He knows what it takes to rescue an economy, beat back a pandemic, and lead our country. And he listens. He will tell the truth and trust science. He will make smart plans and manage a good team. And he will govern as someone who's lived a life that the rest of us can recognize.

 

So many of you are already going that extra mile. Even when you're exhausted, you're mustering up unimaginable courage to put on those scrubs and give our loved ones a fighting chance. Even when you're anxious, you're delivering those packages, stocking those shelves, and doing all that essential work so that all of us can keep moving forward.

Even when it all feels so overwhelming, working parents are somehow piecing it all together without child care. Teachers are getting creative so that our kids can still learn and grow. Our young people are desperately fighting to pursue their dreams.

This is who we still are: compassionate, resilient, decent people whose fortunes are bound up with one another. And it is well past time for our leaders to once again reflect our truth.

So, it is up to us to add our voices and our votes to the course of history, echoing heroes like John Lewis who said, "When you see something that is not right, you must say something. You must do something." That is the truest form of empathy: not just feeling, but doing; not just for ourselves or our kids, but for everyone, for all our kids.

And if we want to keep the possibility of progress alive in our time, if we want to be able to look our children in the eye after this election, we have got to reassert our place in American history. And we have got to do everything we can to elect my friend, Joe Biden, as the next president of the United States.

 

[simple1]

49 minutes ago, pedro01 said:

How many Democrat politicians have come out to oppose the violence in the streets? <SNIP>

Examples...

 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/08/13/fact-check-democrats-have-condemned-violence-linked-protests/3317862001/

[Morch]

6 hours ago, TopDeadSenter said:

Seemed to me Michelle blew through Trumps 17,000 in just this speech alone. I never heard such a load of inflammatory nonsense. Fortunately the fact checkers are hard at work analyzing her words, and it is proving embarrassing. 

 

 

Michelle Obama's husband's administration BUILT the 'cages' she slammed Trump for using to separate families in keynote speech, factchecker finds

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8637927/AP-FACT-CHECK-Michelle-Obama-kids-cages.html

 

 The most ridiculous part of the speech was when she was going on about Trump being responsible for the mob looting, burning and rioting. Words fail me.

 

"I never heard such a load of inflammatory nonsense."

 

And here I was thinking you pay attention to Trump's words.

 

"Fortunately the fact checkers are hard at work analyzing her words, and it is proving embarrassing."

 

Would these be the "biased" fact checking websites Trump supporters often complain about? Or just the imaginary ones you misleadingly claim to have their hands full debunking Mrs. Obama's speech?

 

"Words fail me."

 

Let's hope so.

 

[Morch]

5 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Seriously? Chris Wallace doesn't like Trump, IMO, having watched him many times in the past.

 

Is this the benchmark of factual reporting now? Whether a reporter "likes" Trump or not? Sad to see the straws grasped at.

[Morch]

5 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Did she have anything positive to say, or was it all hate Trump?

 

So, you didn't bother watching, listening or reading her speech - and yet come here to post criticism based on partial reports and your imagination. How about trying to be informed instead of opinionated? Maybe at least before participating in these "discussions"?

[mtls2005]

8 minutes ago, Morch said:

Sad to see the straws grasped at.

 

Not sure it's "sad"? I'd go for "amazing".

 

It's "amazing" the lengths trumpers go to defend him, even when he flips, flops, re-flips and re-flops.

 

Not sure they realize they won't be able critique any future President, assuming there is one, given their strident, shrill, angry and vacuous defenses of the current one.

 

Popcorn ready for Melania's speech, not that I understand a word she says. I really do care. Do you?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited August 19, 2020 by mtls2005

[Morch]

5 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I see no vision, no commitment to a better future for all, no message of hope. All I see is spending more of other people's money as bribes.

Are there none in the Dems that can inspire, lift the heart, give a vision that people can look up to, commit the populace to a future that will unite the people for a better world? Did all hope for the American people's future die in Dallas?

 

5 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I don't see as how they could "bring the country together", and if it's other people's money being spent I assume it's a bribe.

 

I wasn't talking about Trump, in case you hadn't noticed.

If the Dems want to win the presidency they need to provide a better message than Trump. So far they haven't, IMO.

All I see so far is two opposing parties saying the other is worse than them, nothing positive, nothing to lift the spirits, nothing to inspire hope for a better world.

 

Most things governments do is based on funding by "other people's money". It's what known as "taxes" (or debt). Not really sure where you're going with this nonsense argument.

 

As for the Democrats' platform - you routinely question its existence, and whenever supplied with facts to the contrary, dismiss them with some general spurious comments.

 

Also, it would seem that in your mind, it is only the Dems that need to come up with policies etc., while the Republicans, or rather, Trump, are apparently exempt from such demands. Same goes for the bit about failing to lift spirits etc. But hey, "it is what it is"...

[Morch]

5 minutes ago, mtls2005 said:

 

Not sure it's "sad"? I'd go for "amazing".

 

It's "amazing" the lengths trumpers go to defend him, even when he flips, flops, re-flips and re-flops.

 

Not sure they realize they won't be able critique any future President, assuming there is one, given their strident, shrill, angry and vacuous defenses of the current one.

 

Popcorn ready for Melania's speech, not that I understand a word she says. I really do care. Do you?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Well, if the last 4+ years are any indication, many of Trump supporters would have little issues denying, ignoring and saying it-was-just-a-joke, just-trolling when the need to make different bogus comments arises.

[PoodThaiMaiDai]

3 hours ago, J Town said:

Absolutely wrong! Your link states, correctly, that VP Biden was considering a black female. Straightening out ridiculous spin is exhausting.

Whatever. There were 12 female finalist, with about 8 of them being blacks.  It slowly was downsized to 3 blacks. 

 

The black leaders made it very clear if he wanted black vote he had to choose a black VP.

 

Here are some news links for your reference:

 

Link 1 - Joe Biden pressed again to name a Black woman as his running mate

Link 2 - More than 100 Black men urge Biden to pick Black woman as vice president

Link 3 - Black male leaders say Biden will lose election if he doesn't choose Black woman as VP

Link 4 - Power Up: Black leaders to Biden: You'll lose in November without a Black VP

Link 5 - ‘He better pick a Black woman’: Biden faces Whitmer backlash

 

Want more articles? And these are all out of Liberal News outlets.

Edited August 19, 2020 by PoodThaiMaiDai

[klikster]

On 8/18/2020 at 11:41 AM, Pilotman said:

Indeed she was, it's just a pity that Biden is such a inarticulate moron. If that is the best that the Democrats can come up with then they don't deserve to win against Trump. 

Yeah, that silver-tongue devil of a Presidente we have truly is a study in perfection!

[Rimmer]

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[TooPoopedToPop]

10 minutes ago, klikster said:

Yeah, that silver-tongue devil of a Presidente we have truly is a study in perfection!

Trump is anything but a "...study in perfection!" but he looks pretty good compared to Biden, that cadaver in a basement.

[PoodThaiMaiDai]

1 minute ago, TooPoopedToPop said:

Trump is anything but a "...study in perfection!" but he looks pretty good compared to Biden, that cadaver in a basement.

"Weekend at Bernies" comes to mind.

[Sujo]

33 minutes ago, PoodThaiMaiDai said:

Whatever. There were 12 female finalist, with about 8 of them being blacks.  It slowly was downsized to 3 blacks. 

 

The black leaders made it very clear if he wanted black vote he had to choose a black VP.

 

Here are some news links for your reference:

 

Link 1 - Joe Biden pressed again to name a Black woman as his running mate

Link 2 - More than 100 Black men urge Biden to pick Black woman as vice president

Link 3 - Black male leaders say Biden will lose election if he doesn't choose Black woman as VP

Link 4 - Power Up: Black leaders to Biden: You'll lose in November without a Black VP

Link 5 - ‘He better pick a Black woman’: Biden faces Whitmer backlash

 

Want more articles? And these are all out of Liberal News outlets.

Other people telling him who they want him to pick is the same as him saying it will be a black woman?

 

Thats some serious mental gymnastics.

[TooPoopedToPop]

3 minutes ago, Sujo said:

Other people telling him who they want him to pick is the same as him saying it will be a black woman?

 

Thats some serious mental gymnastics.

Some serious mental gymnastics would be required to seriously believe that Biden makes decisions like that on his own.

[watthong]

4 hours ago, mtls2005 said:

8 hours ago, J Town said:

Dem platform contains the following items:

 

Can't wait to see/hear about the RNC platform.

 

Hopefully it doesn't have a long, gentle ramp.

 

FWIW, Melania's speech will have subtitles in English.

 

 

Watching the DNC20 unfold is like a delicious binge of a series of trailers leading to the Hollywood blockbuster of the year. Got a kick whenever another Trump's skeleton came out of the closet to haunt him (Sally Yates, Maria Yananovich (spelling?), etc.). And the "Madwoman" has yet to show up! Folks tend to forget - again to drift on a Hollywood metaphor, especially of the Disney vein, it's usually the sidekick(s) that get the best actions, not the leading man. So Biden can slump in his chair for all I care, his back is well covered and fortified by a bevy of early, middle and senior-age beauties, all well-spoken, lip-glossed and hell-bent on kicking Trump's ass. 

 

Re Melania? I heard through the White House downstairs that she's decided to cut to the chase and do a  20min long  striptease instead. I'll watch that (We love you Melania, inspite of everything!)

[stevenl]

1 hour ago, PoodThaiMaiDai said:

Whatever. There were 12 female finalist, with about 8 of them being blacks.  It slowly was downsized to 3 blacks. 

 

The black leaders made it very clear if he wanted black vote he had to choose a black VP.

 

Here are some news links for your reference:

 

Link 1 - Joe Biden pressed again to name a Black woman as his running mate

Link 2 - More than 100 Black men urge Biden to pick Black woman as vice president

Link 3 - Black male leaders say Biden will lose election if he doesn't choose Black woman as VP

Link 4 - Power Up: Black leaders to Biden: You'll lose in November without a Black VP

Link 5 - ‘He better pick a Black woman’: Biden faces Whitmer backlash

 

Want more articles? And these are all out of Liberal News outlets.

You claimed 'he specifically said he would pick a black female', and came with a link.

Your link didn't proof that, so your reaction 'whatever', and more non-proof 

[Eric Loh]

27 minutes ago, TooPoopedToPop said:

Some serious mental gymnastics would be required to seriously believe that Biden makes decisions like that on his own.

You may be right that Biden makes decision based on consensus contrasting with Trump who surround himself with yesmen; think himself the smartest person and make decisions without input from others. If  you don't agree with him, they will be fired. You hero worship that kind of dictatorial behavior.  

[PoodThaiMaiDai]

9 minutes ago, stevenl said:

You claimed 'he specifically said he would pick a black female', and came with a link.

Your link didn't proof that, so your reaction 'whatever', and more non-proof 

This is what I wrote:

 

"I only say it because Biden made it very clear he was only going to pick a Black Female.

 

So it is not based upon the best candidate for the job but due to race and gender.

 

So who is more racist?  Biden by far.  Look at all the gafs he has made regarding race."

 

I never said he said it. I said he has been implying it since day one.

[Sujo]

44 minutes ago, TooPoopedToPop said:

Some serious mental gymnastics would be required to seriously believe that Biden makes decisions like that on his own.

Which is diametrically opposed to what you stated.

[stevenl]

5 hours ago, PoodThaiMaiDai said:

You are correct. Until the George Floyd death then he specifically said he would pick a black female.

 

Here is a news link.

 

12 minutes ago, PoodThaiMaiDai said:

This is what I wrote:

 

"I only say it because Biden made it very clear he was only going to pick a Black Female.

 

So it is not based upon the best candidate for the job but due to race and gender.

 

So who is more racist?  Biden by far.  Look at all the gafs he has made regarding race."

 

I never said he said it. I said he has been implying it since day one.

See your own quote 'he specifically said'.

Backtracking a bit?

[Sujo]

12 minutes ago, PoodThaiMaiDai said:

This is what I wrote:

 

"I only say it because Biden made it very clear he was only going to pick a Black Female.

 

So it is not based upon the best candidate for the job but due to race and gender.

 

So who is more racist?  Biden by far.  Look at all the gafs he has made regarding race."

 

I never said he said it. I said he has been implying it since day one.

Implying is not the same as making it very clear. Stop digging.

 

He was condidering, after receiving advice, thats what intelligent people do.

 

He never made anything clear about the vp had to be a black female.

 

 

[stevenl]

1 minute ago, Sujo said:

Implying is not the same as making it very clear. Stop digging.

 

He was condidering, after receiving advice, thats what intelligent people do.

 

He never made anything clear about the vp had to be a black female.

 

 

PoodThaiMaiDai is omitting his post, where he said 'he specifically said'.