Thailand Seeks Safe Way of Reopening Borders to Boost Economy

[LukKrueng]

17 minutes ago, vandeventer said:

On again off again,no real sense. If you want to do good, give another amnesty for at least

6 months to all of us that don't have the virus than want to stay in Thailand and that may get

the virus if we go back to our home countries. What do you have to lose?

What do they have to gain from this? I guess most "stranded tourists" don't stay at hotels but in long term rentals, as there is no end in sight they probably cut expenses to the minimum possible so not much travel, no tours, no use of other tourist services so no real contribution to the Thai economy

[AbeNormal]

9 minutes ago, SCOTT FITZGERSLD said:

i have

a feeling that the virus is losing power, and within 3-4 months it will disapear completly, just

like it was with the SARS...

you might be right - I have seen signs in the data that would suggest that

[AbeNormal]

8 minutes ago, James HKT said:

I live in Phuket and has seen no official announcement on GPS trackers. I think it’s BS because no one will agree to this. 
 

We do have to check in and out of shops and public places, although this is largely ignored now. The idea is if someone develops Covid that we can track where they have been and also who else was there at the same time and might also have been infected. 
 

Sensible no ?

sensible yes if you are tracking everyone not just foreigners

[PEE TEE]

The penny has not dropped yet

[AbeNormal]

7 minutes ago, James HKT said:

I have explained exactly what this quarantine entails, and it doesn’t sound so bad. 

so you are now running things 

 

That is why you know so much

 

saying something doesn't sound so bad means it is still has a level of "bad"  why on earth would anyone bother 

 

and remember if you test positive at any stage during your not so "bad" vacation - your are screwed 

Edited August 24, 2020 by AbeNormal

[PEE TEE]

No mention of the insurance has that been taken out of the equation 

[jak2002003]

16 minutes ago, Don Chance said:

Ivermectin triple therapy, everyone take the drugs as prophylactics.

 

“Triple therapy specialist Professor Thomas Borody, famous for curing peptic ulcers using a triple antibiotic therapy saving millions of lives, today released the COVID-19 treatment protocol to Australian GPs, who can legally prescribe it to their COVID-19 positive patients. They can also prescribe it as a preventative medication. Borody says this could be the fastest and safest way to end the pandemic in Australia within 6-8 weeks.”

 

“There is mounting worldwide clinical literature pointing to a 100% cure rate using Ivermectin Triple Therapy,” said Professor Borody.

 

Ivermectin does not kill viruses. 

[PEE TEE]

7 minutes ago, James HKT said:

I fully understand AbeNormal. I am English, English is my mother tongue so I understand it perfectly. 
 

I have explained exactly what this quarantine entails, and it doesn’t sound so bad. 
 

To repeat, it’s staying in a 5 star beach front hotel, with access to all parts and facilities of the hotel including a section of beach outside. 
 

Sounds terrible, right ?!

at whose expense 

[FarFlungFalang]

6 minutes ago, James HKT said:

What ?

 

How can you gauge that from what I have said?

 

I am quoting what has been announced locally. 
 

Once of us  is having a problem with comprehension, and it’s clearly not me. 

Must be the "New AbeNormal"?

[Matzzon]

58 minutes ago, Benmart said:

Using that name for comparison is a poor idea. Do some reserch as to the meaning.

Oh, how terrible! Already know the real meaning of the name and what happened there.

 

If you have any more problem with that, why don´t you take that up with MeeToo. ????

[david555]

They shall end up with destinated tourist island destinations straight from neigboring Island airports as arival ...no more Suvharnaboum arrival but more local...

 

lucky for them there are many small ...even unpopulated Islands availble ....c19 Tourisme Thai style is born ...????

[dave moir]

4 hours ago, samsensam said:

 

-- Tourists may need to wear GPS wristbands, face quarantine

 

no and no. try again.

Thailand don't seem to grasp that tourists aren't going to want to wear GPS tracking devices or have to quarantine when coming on holiday plus the economy in other countries is just as bad so many won't be able to afford holidays!

[FarFlungFalang]

6 minutes ago, david555 said:

They shall end up with destinated tourist island destinations straight from neigboring Island airports as arival ...no more Suvharnaboum arrival but more local...

 

lucky for them there are many small ...even unpopulated Islands availble ....c19 Tourisme Thai style is born ...????

They've said there are 6 regions participating in the program and includes Bangkok,Chiang Mai Ubon,Phuket and a couple of others.They call it the "Safe and Sealed" program kind of like signed sealed delivered I'm yours?

[david555]

11 minutes ago, dave moir said:

Thailand don't seem to grasp that tourists aren't going to want to wear GPS tracking devices or have to quarantine when coming on holiday plus the economy in other countries is just as bad so many won't be able to afford holidays!

We forget we wear already our personal gps .....our smartphone ????

Using bank& creditcard on Atm's....we are already quit traceable 

Edited August 24, 2020 by david555

[miamiman123]

How the hell are foreign teachers getting in the country?????

how? 

[madmitch]

22 minutes ago, PEE TEE said:

No mention of the insurance has that been taken out of the equation 

There are still stringent restrictions in force to be able to obtain a visa/permit to enter Thailand. One of these is the $100,000 insurance requirement. Although insurance per se has not been mentioned, nor is there any mention of the loosening of the rules in place so I would guess that all these hoops will still have to be jumped through.

 

But it still might appeal to a number of snowbirds. Thailand has many people that spend the whole winter, though those that do it for budgetary reasons will probably be out of the equation due to prohibitive costs.

 

 

 

[Henryford]

3 hours ago, oompie69 said:

Why not just micro-chip them? Probably cheaper and less noticeable. 

Don't they get the nano chip in Bill's vaccine?

[Dan O]

34 minutes ago, James HKT said:

I fully understand AbeNormal. I am English, English is my mother tongue so I understand it perfectly. 
 

I have explained exactly what this quarantine entails, and it doesn’t sound so bad. 
 

To repeat, it’s staying in a 5 star beach front hotel, with access to all parts and facilities of the hotel including a section of beach outside. 
 

Sounds terrible, right ?!

If the quarantine is the same process as has been already conducted you don't have free use of anything for about 1/2 the time in quarantine. You are stuck in your room until that time and then when you are "released" you can only go to designated areas for limited time periods.  Not sure what you heard locally but that's been the requirements up until now

[smudger1951]

I'm thinking- go along with what they want like this  tracker stuff and block the signal somehow.

[madmitch]

2 minutes ago, James HKT said:

All quite true, but this scheme is aimed at attracting tourists only so these requirements do not apply. 

I wouldn't be too sure about that.

 

Even returning Thais have to undergo the COVID tests and obtain fit to fly certificates (though not insurance as they're covered by the Goverment). They certainly wouldnt make it easier for foreigners to enter than their own citizens!

[hotchilli]

4 hours ago, webfact said:

Thailand may allow some foreign visitors into the country as early as October. Tourists from countries with limited infections will probably be required to wear wristbands with GPS tracking systems and will need to be quarantined in a hotel for the first 14 days, Saksiam said. The plan is likely to be tested in Phuket province, he said

Yeah well don't expect a rush anytime soon then... Euro tourists can holiday closer and more cheaply and safely at home without GPS monitoring like some criminal at large.

 Plus 14 days in quarantine before it starts along with others from god knows where.

Forget it.

[david555]

4 minutes ago, Dan O said:

If the quarantine is the same process as has been already conducted you don't have free use of anything for about 1/2 the time in quarantine. You are stuck in your room until that time and then when you are "released" you can only go to designated areas for limited time periods.  Not sure what you heard locally but that's been the requirements up until now

Is soi Buakhao a allowed "designated area "....or else no Brits are coming ????????????

[transam]

1 minute ago, david555 said:

Is soi Buakhao a allowed "designated area "....or else no Brits are coming ????????????

Is that yet another Brit bash from you...?  ????

[Stoker58]

 They need to get a sense of proportion. Heat and humidity, plus the lack of old people care homes, are what stopped CV19 happening in Thailand. It’s doubtful if anyone actually died from the virus here.

  On the other hand, millions of lives are being blighted by this cowardly policy of hiding behind the sofa and talking nonsense about 14 day quarantines.

[newnative]

     They need to distinguish between tourists and long-stayers.  They are two completely different things.  Forget even talking about 'tourism' and 'quarantine' in the same breath.  Never going to fly and stop wasting your time.  Concentrate right now on getting the long-stayers to return--they are the only ones that might be ok with a quarantine as they are here for 3 to 4 months or more.  As a previous poster said, if you agree to quarantine it shouldn't matter what country you are from--allow all the long-stayers in if they agree to quarantine.  For tourism, why not experiment with a few safer countries, use fast testing, and see how it goes.  

[mike1967]

1 hour ago, James HKT said:

It’s already been announced to start from October 1st. 

 

Minimum stay 30 days, Quarantine in a beach side hotel with access to a section of beach for 14 days, I believe in Patong. After a test and 14 days free to travel around Phuket, a week later and another test free to travel around the country. 
 

No mention of GPS trackers, brain implants or mind melds although it’s normal here to check in and out of stores and public places leaving our name and ‘phone number. Can be done on a website via a smart phone (IT’S NOT APP) if you wish. 
 

Be interesting to see what happens. Personally I think it’s a step in the right direction and clearly it’s aimed at high end tourists rather than cheap Charlie’s. No problem with that. 

How special do you think Thailand is? The only people this will appeal to is the ones with homes or family in Thailand. I can't see any high end/low end tourist being told where they have to stay for 2 weeks and then having to pay for the privilege. What on earth does cheap Charlies have to do with anything? Not only that, who would want to be stuck in Phuket for any period of time anyway? Of all the places to avoid in Thailand, Phuket is one of them. It was on the bones of its <deleted> before the pandemic started. 

[david555]

13 minutes ago, transam said:

Is that yet another Brit bash from you...?  ????

Bashing ...?? Iam inquiring for you as i thought you might be sleeping still .....????

You really get paranoia now ....not leaving any oportunity ....

Edited August 24, 2020 by david555

[micmichd]

12 minutes ago, hotchilli said:

Yeah well don't expect a rush anytime soon then... Euro tourists can holiday closer and more cheaply and safely at home without GPS monitoring like some criminal at large.

 Plus 14 days in quarantine before it starts along with others from god knows where.

Forget it.

Not so sure. Even within the EU borders are closed. 

[Fex Bluse]

4 hours ago, Chelseafan said:

 

Precisely.

 

Until the two week qurantine is removed from the equation there is no way I am going back and that's coming from someone who's wife and family are in Thailand.

 

What sane person books a 2 week vacation in Thailand when they have to stay in a hotel under quarantine.

Why the hell don't these fools get it ?

 

Personally I don't think they have any intention of relaxing the borders, it's just hyperbole for the masses.

 

Thai logic not same same you farang logic na ????

[Fex Bluse]

Ultimately, all this misses the even more obvious problems

 

1. Thailand's biggest target - the Chinese - are not coming anytime soon. The Chinese government is keeping most of their people home to spend in China to prop up their dying economy. 

 

2. Many people have lost investments, many have lost jobs. They will not be financially fit to blow money on an expensive vacation. 

 

3. Most people will be afraid to fly especially with covid still a threat. 

 

The Thais can do whatever they want. No big numbers of tourists are coming this year. Maybe not even next year. 

 

Chokdee krap