Black man shot in back by police in Wisconsin city, governor says, curfew imposed

[Tippaporn]

5 minutes ago, xylophone said:

Quote TallGuyJohninBkk: As I said in a prior post, he had no business being there in the first place, in violation of curfew, in illegal possession of a rifle, and 20+ miles away from his home.

 

He took the law into his own hands and was nowhere close to "defending his property".

TallGuyJohninBkk's quote is irrelevant to my point.

 

In what way did he take the law into his own hands?  Was he trying to bust illegal protesters?  No.  So be specific in how he was taking the law into his own hands.  Pretend you're in a courtroom and you have to be factual and BS wont cut it.

 

I didn't write "his property," I wrote "property."  Don't start making things up now . . . 

[Tippaporn]

9 minutes ago, rvaviator said:

Sound like a fair question to me ..

 

After all Mr T have had 4 years to make a great harmonious and inclusive society  .... Making America Great again ..  So now .. the slogan should be .. Making 'America even greater' .... 

I'll stay away from trolling posts, thank you.

[Saint Nick]

1 hour ago, Mama Noodle said:

 

Did not shoot first, did not attack first. Facts are painful for you, I’m sure. 
 

First shooting

While Mr. Rittenhouse is being pursued by the group, an unknown gunman fires into the air, though it’s unclear why. The weapon’s muzzle flash appears in footage filmed at the scene.

Mr. Rittenhouse turns toward the sound of gunfire as another pursuer lunges toward him from the same direction. Mr. Rittenhouse then fires four times, and appears to shoot the man in the head.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/27/us/kyle-rittenhouse-kenosha-shooting-video.html

"...fires into the air" being the operative words here!

[rvaviator]

18 hours ago, Mama Noodle said:

Anyway, the people the kid shot were a real classy bunch. A registered sex offender with crimes against a minor. Skateboard guy has a record of battery and repeat domestic abuse. Arm Hamburger pistol guy has a history of being intoxicated with a gun - which is ironic because that means it’s likely illegal for him to even own one. 

Sure sounds like a a 'world class' left wing Antifa cell to me .... ????

 

Or maybe just a bunch of low life scum that takes advantage of an initial peaceful demonstration ?

[Mama Noodle]

3 minutes ago, Saint Nick said:

"...fires into the air" being the operative words here!

Being pursued BEFORE the first shooting happened and being lunged at by a rioter FIRST precisely obliterates your entire original premise and cements a self defense claim. 
 

And speaking from experience, shooting a pistol or rifle in a street or parking lot flanked by buildings makes it impossible to know where the shot was aimed or coming from due to the buildings and the way sound bounces of the buildings. If it was a 5.56 round, those are supersonic and unless you see the muzzle flash yourself, you’ll never know where it came from. 

 

 

[xylophone]

31 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

n what way did he take the law into his own hands?  Was he trying to bust illegal protesters?  No.  So be specific in how he was taking the law into his own hands.  Pretend you're in a courtroom and you have to be factual and BS wont cut it.

Don't have to pretend I am in a courtroom because your questions have been answered........

 

He has been accused of first-degree intentional homicide, first-degree reckless homicide, two counts of first-degree recklessly endangering safety, attempted first-degree intentional homicide and possession of a dangerous weapon by a person under 18.

 

 

[spidermike007]

8 hours ago, anyone said:

When you will see all humans dirt day by day like they see will you stay kind and soft?

Sorry. A completely incomprehensible reply. No idea what you just said. 

[Tippaporn]

7 minutes ago, xylophone said:

42 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

TallGuyJohninBkk's quote is irrelevant to my point.

 

In what way did he take the law into his own hands?  Was he trying to bust illegal protesters?  No.  So be specific in how he was taking the law into his own hands.  Pretend you're in a courtroom and you have to be factual and BS wont cut it.

 

I didn't write "his property," I wrote "property."  Don't start making things up now . . . 

Don't have to pretend I am in a courtroom because your questions have been answered........

 

He has been accused of first-degree intentional homicide, first-degree reckless homicide, two counts of first-degree recklessly endangering safety, attempted first-degree intentional homicide and possession of a dangerous weapon by a person under 18.

You didn't answer my question.  You just posted something wholly irrelevant to my question.  Why?  I'll have to assume it's because you can't answer it.  You needn't go through such great lengths to avoid it, though.

[Saint Nick]

2 hours ago, Mama Noodle said:

I just think it’s hilarious that after months of riots and looting and deaths and assault, the one that FINALLY triggers you all is.... Rifle kid. 
 

So blatantly partisan it’s laughable. 

"Riffle Kid" is a criminal, a terrorist and a murderer!

Calling him "Riffle Kid" is so blatantly partisan, it is laughable!

[Saint Nick]

41 minutes ago, rvaviator said:

Sure sounds like a a 'world class' left wing Antifa cell to me .... ????

 

Or maybe just a bunch of low life scum that takes advantage of an initial peaceful demonstration ?

...and we are still missing any kind of source for those claims!

[Orton Rd]

21 hours ago, ShindenGo said:

This is the very reason why we need to elect Joe Biden and the democrat party! Joe Biden has been faithfully serving the American people for nearly 50 years! What was Trump doing other than enriching his family!
 

Biden’s family has also served the American people. His son gave his life in the Iraq War. His brother helped build houses in Iraq. His son has established diplomatic and economic relationships with Ukraine and China. The latter with which not even Goldman Sachs could’ve established!

 

America needs Joe Biden to heal the racial rifts, division and hatred that Trump has caused. More black people are being hunted down in the US under Trump. With Biden he secured safe neighborhoods with the landmark 1994 crime bill. He took predators off the streets and prevented your neighborhoods from devolving into racial jungles. My vote is for Joe Biden and Kamala Harris. To vote for Trump is to vote for mob rule, anarchy in our cities, the lost of businesses and livelihoods up in flames. 

Utter nonsense the only people 'hunting down' black people are other black people, 89% of black homicide is black on black killings. Biden has been enriching his family for 50 years, he does not care about the ordinary Americans. He has stated if blacks do not vote democrat they are not really black, how racist is that! Voting for Biden is a vote for socialism, anarchy and weakness. Vote for Trump is a vote for strength, America and social justice, Trump did more for blacks in 4 years than Obama did in 8. Biden is obviously mentally incapacitated so I look forward to him embarrassing himself and the Democrats on Tv debates, Trump will destroy the old hair sniffer.

[Saint Nick]

37 minutes ago, Mama Noodle said:

Being pursued BEFORE the first shooting happened and being lunged at by a rioter FIRST precisely obliterates your entire original premise and cements a self defense claim. 
 

And speaking from experience, shooting a pistol or rifle in a street or parking lot flanked by buildings makes it impossible to know where the shot was aimed or coming from due to the buildings and the way sound bounces of the buildings. If it was a 5.56 round, those are supersonic and unless you see the muzzle flash yourself, you’ll never know where it came from. 

 

 

Okay...we got it!

He was an innocent little boy, who came into a difficult situation that was none of his fault and he was scared and alone and so he has the right to fire his (illegal) gun at whoever and whenever and gets to go scott free, because...resons and ANTIFA!

 

I never used the "ignore"- button on anyone, but I am soooooo tempted, right now!

 

[Sujo]

8 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

You didn't answer my question.  You just posted something wholly irrelevant to my question.  Why?  I'll have to assume it's because you can't answer it.  You needn't go through such great lengths to avoid it, though.

He did answer, you just didnt understand it.

 

The prosecutor refutes you brcause of the charges brought. The evidence of what he was charged with flies in the face of your defence.

[Sujo]

1 minute ago, Orton Rd said:

Utter nonsense the only people 'hunting down' black people are other black people, 89% of black homicide is black on black killings. Biden has been enriching his family for 50 years, he does not care about the ordinary Americans. He has stated if blacks do not vote democrat they are not really black, how racist is that! Voting for Biden is a vote for socialism, anarchy and weakness. Vote for Trump is a vote for strength, America and social justice, Trump did more for blacks in 4 years than Obama did in 8. Biden is obviously mentally incapacitated so I look forward to him embarrassing himself and the Democrats on Tv debates, Trump will destroy the old hair sniffer.

Do you understand all this anarchy etc is happening under trump?

[Orton Rd]

3 minutes ago, Sujo said:

Do you understand all this anarchy etc is happening under trump?

Under Democratic ruled cities, if Trump does send in the national guard he gets criticized, if he does not he gets criticized. Anarchists should be shot, but the leftists urge them on as they think it's weakening Trump, just the opposite

 

Edited August 28, 2020 by Orton Rd

[Mama Noodle]

4 minutes ago, Saint Nick said:

Okay...we got it!

He was an innocent little boy, who came into a difficult situation that was none of his fault and he was scared and alone and so he has the right to fire his (illegal) gun at whoever and whenever and gets to go scott free, because...resons and ANTIFA!

 

I never used the "ignore"- button on anyone, but I am soooooo tempted, right now!

 

Don’t make empty threats, just do it. Threats make you look weak. 
 

as for the rest of your post, that’s a strawman. You’re wrong, you’ve been wrong the whole time, I’ve provided proof that you’re wrong and now you barf up a strawman and threaten to ignore me. 
 

By all means, do it and save us all the grief. 

[Mama Noodle]

28 minutes ago, xylophone said:

Don't have to pretend I am in a courtroom because your questions have been answered........

 

He has been accused of first-degree intentional homicide, first-degree reckless homicide, two counts of first-degree recklessly endangering safety, attempted first-degree intentional homicide and possession of a dangerous weapon by a person under 18.

Yep, you all have tried the kid and convicted him all in your own little minds. 

 

Charges do not equal convictions. 

[Eric Loh]

26 minutes ago, Mama Noodle said:

Yep, you all have tried the kid and convicted him all in your own little minds. 

 

Charges do not equal convictions. 

He will be convicted. Smoking gun. Feel sorry for the kid being mislead by the racist President. 

[Tippaporn]

49 minutes ago, Sujo said:

He did answer, you just didnt understand it.

 

The prosecutor refutes you brcause of the charges brought. The evidence of what he was charged with flies in the face of your defence.

xylophone didn't answer my question.  From your comment it's obvious that you have no clue as to what we were on about.

[Tippaporn]

51 minutes ago, Sujo said:

Do you understand all this anarchy etc is happening under trump?

And all of it seems to be happening in Democrat controlled cities?  Democrat governors and Democrat mayors in the position to do something about it do nothing at all (until it's too late) so what has Trump got to do with it?  That he's responsible even though all he can do is offer assistance which gets refused by the Democrats?  What are you trying to say, Sujo?

[CorpusChristie]

19 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

And all of it seems to be happening in Democrat controlled cities?  Democrat governors and Democrat mayors in the position to do something about it do nothing at all (until it's too late) so what has Trump got to do with it?  

Didnt Trump kneel on a Black mans neck and killed him, then Trump shot a Blackman seven times in the back and then Trump went outside setting cars on fire and looting shops 

[Sujo]

37 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

Didnt Trump kneel on a Black mans neck and killed him, then Trump shot a Blackman seven times in the back and then Trump went outside setting cars on fire and looting shops 

He certainly inflamed the situation by refusing to acknowledge there is a problem and having the gung ho yee haa gun toting couple talk at the rnc.

 

He has done the opposite of bringing the nation together. Only himself to blame.

 

[Sujo]

1 hour ago, Tippaporn said:

And all of it seems to be happening in Democrat controlled cities?  Democrat governors and Democrat mayors in the position to do something about it do nothing at all (until it's too late) so what has Trump got to do with it?  That he's responsible even though all he can do is offer assistance which gets refused by the Democrats?  What are you trying to say, Sujo?

if trump has nothing to do with it why did he promise to stop the violence 4 years ago, its got worse.

 

If its nothing to do with him then he cannot do anything if re elected, and its certainly nothing to do with biden.

 

Btw, there is something he can do about it, he is just too weak to do it, or he wants it.

[CorpusChristie]

5 minutes ago, Sujo said:

He certainly inflamed the situation by refusing to acknowledge there is a problem and having the gung ho yee haa gun toting couple talk at the rnc.

 

He has done the opposite of bringing the nation together. Only himself to blame.

 

Its all Trumps fault for getting elected , if he hadnt of stood in the POTUS elections and never been President, none of this would had happened 

[EVENKEEL]

3 minutes ago, Sujo said:

if trump has nothing to do with it why did he promise to stop the violence 4 years ago, its got worse.

 

If its nothing to do with him then he cannot do anything if re elected, and its certainly nothing to do with biden.

 

Btw, there is something he can do about it, he is just too weak to do it, or he wants it.

Do what? Send in Federal Troops and be labeled a dictator. JHChrist, at some point folks have to be honest with themselves. 

[Sujo]

There is no logic to trump supporters. Saying how bad it will be under biden when this is all happening under trump.

 

He has the tools available to him but one can only conclude that he wont do anything because he thinks the violence is beneficial to him.

 

Not the move of a president.

[Sujo]

1 minute ago, CorpusChristie said:

Its all Trumps fault for getting elected , if he hadnt of stood in the POTUS elections and never been President, none of this would had happened 

its the fault of the uneducated believing his lies, and still believing his lies.

 

We are where we are because of trump, no one else. It is what it is, covfefe.

[rvaviator]

1 hour ago, Tippaporn said:

And all of it seems to be happening in Democrat controlled cities?  Democrat governors and Democrat mayors in the position to do something about it do nothing at all (until it's too late) so what has Trump got to do with it?  That he's responsible even though all he can do is offer assistance which gets refused by the Democrats?  What are you trying to say, Sujo?

Here is a question ... Is it true that in states or cities that are controlled by the Democrats you will find more blacks (poor ?) Loss of jobs and less 'fortunate' or less 'opportunities' .. Factory closings etc ..  .. Compared to where the Republicans are in charge?  i.e. you have more well of people in Republican controlled cities?

[EVENKEEL]

5 minutes ago, Sujo said:

There is no logic to trump supporters. Saying how bad it will be under biden when this is all happening under trump.

 

He has the tools available to him but one can only conclude that he wont do anything because he thinks the violence is beneficial to him.

 

Not the move of a president.

Please provide a list of tools at the POTUS's disposal. Please do.

[Eric Loh]

12 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

Its all Trumps fault for getting elected , if he hadnt of stood in the POTUS elections and never been President, none of this would had happened 

No it ain't his fault for being elected. He seized the moment and he was legitimately elected. However the echos of these words from a well respected statesman summarized his presidency.

“He’s shown no interest in putting in the work; no interest in finding common ground; no interest in using the awesome power of his office to help anyone but himself and his friends; no interest in treating the presidency as anything but one more reality show that he can use to get the attention he craves,”.