New from US Embassy: "Official extension stamp" to change to long-term visa

[ubonjoe]

15 minutes ago, audaciousnomad said:

You didn't address his 1-day overstay red stamp. Will that not be a sticking point, even in Ubon Ratchatani?

It should not be a problem anywhere.

[utalkin2me]

I went into Chaeng Wattana today. 

 

I have the worst situation possible almost: invalid non o ME, used 60 day extension long ago. 

 

I put 400k in the bank about 6 weeks ago.

 

I went to CW to enquire if I would need a special stamp before the 11th, and to see if I would be able to get a one year extension. If all that failed I was planning on asking about the US embassy letter 30 day extension, but i did not get that far.

 

Basically what Ubon Joe has been telling me all along came true. She said I will have no problem extending for one year, and she calculated the date I should come back to apply as she looked at my bank book. 

 

My take on the op of this thread is that there was a meeting or decision to let people in my situation extend for one year with a special stamp, but at some point they decided, that will just complicate things, and decided to just let anyone who is here an "on amnesty" extend for one year, even if their sticker is invalid and even if their passport stamp is way out of date. That last paragraph is all just my amateur guess, but the rest actually transpired. 

 

I would also advise anyone in my situation who visited an io before this thread started, which is when i suppose they made this decision, go ahead and at least try to go back and see what they say now. 

Edited September 3, 2020 by utalkin2me

[The33]

15 hours ago, Mike Teavee said:

I wouldn't normally recommend this, but It sounds like you've more or less exhausted every other option at Nonthaburi so maybe try with an Agent in a different district (Pattaya seems to be full of agents & has an IO that's very used to dealing with Retirees / People with Thai families so maybe try Key Visa  https://www.keyvisathailand.com/ there)

 

I have heard that these agents can (not saying Key Visa can/cannot, if they can't try other agencies) help you to move to the district until you get your extension sorted then simply move back. 

 

Good Luck, even though things look very bleak at the moment, I'm sure you'll find a way ????

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Did talk with someone about this option in some other thread earlier, could be an option for some, Im getting out of here unless there will be some issues with getting them to Norway.. But I appreciate the advice. theres always an option in Thailand, but then again, I kinda like to be sure it doesnt come back and bite my "backpart" later on... 

[Peter Denis]

21 hours ago, Peter Denis said:

@The33

> The root of your problem is that you are dealing with Nonthaburi IO, the roguest of rogue offices (as you already found out).

But you wrote that you are here on a Tourist Visa and already used your 60-day extension of stay for reason of visiting your wife. 

 

However, there might be a fully legit way out.

And that is if you did NOT yet use your 'regular' 30-day extension of stay your Tourist Visa entry entitles you to, it would be simply a matter of you applying for that extension at a different province with a more accommodating IO. 

The link to the recent post attached below confirms that Ubon Ratchathani IO were willing to provide an applicant that entered on a Tourist Visa months ago (obviously already long time under the Amnesty extension since then) with the 30-days extension of stay such Tourist Visa (or Visa Exempt) entry, entitles you to. 

Once you have that 'valid' 30 days extension of stay, you could then simply apply again at the Nonthaburi IO for the 90-day Non Imm O Visa for reason of marriage (or thai dependant child or any other applicable reason).

 

So, if you did not use that 30-day extension of stay application yet, it is simply a matter of doing the follow:

1 - Book a flight or drive to Ubon Ratchathani, the day before applying there.

2 - Check into a Hotel the night before (I highly recommend the Nartsiri residence - best value hotel I have ever stayed in)

3 - Ask for a copy of the TM-30 notification that every Hotel has to make when you - a foreigner - staying at their hotel

4 - With that TM-30 copy, your passport, application form for the extension of stay and 1.900 THB, go to Ubon Ratchathani IO and apply for the 30-days extension of stay (which you did not use yet, and which your Tourist Visa entitles you to).

Note: As a 'tourist' you are free to stay in Thailand wherever you want (and the hotel you stayed is thus your place of residence, which IO will want when applying for the extension)

5 - Return to Nonthaburi IO with that 'valid' permission to stay (it will be provided till 25 October - see attached link) and you have then ample time to apply for the 90-day Non Imm O Visa (needs to be done with at least 15 days left on your permission to stay).

>> Note: If they still make problems, there are now ways to apply for your Non Imm O Visa being on that valid permission to stay from the 30-day extension you will have.

 

https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1180274-i-got-my-30-days-extension-denied-today/?do=findComment&comment=15774394

 

Note: You can make the trip to Ubon Ratchathani yourself, or even make it a holiday break with your family as Ubon is a very nice Isaan city to explore.

 

@The33 > Looks like you missed the message I posted yesterday.

If you did not yet use your 'regular' 30-day extension of stay, the above would work for sure.

[Jackson B]

I appreciate that this thread has moved on to more diverse and individually complicated issues, but I thought I would report back on my visit to CW on Thursday. I can confirm that the "free stamp" that regularizes the amnesty extension to 26 September is real. BUT, there was no drama getting it, and I did not need to obtain one before applying to convert over from a TR to a Non-O. I simply put in my application, the IO collated all the documents needed. She then sent me to Counter L with my passport, where I filled in a very basic form. After 5 minutes the passport was back with a stamp. I then took the passport back to the original counter (no queue), everything was double-checked, and I was told to come back in two weeks. Counter L looked at no other documents, presumably because it is integrated with the Non-O application process.

[greggraham]

17 minutes ago, Jackson B said:

I appreciate that this thread has moved on to more diverse and individually complicated issues, but I thought I would report back on my visit to CW on Thursday. I can confirm that the "free stamp" that regularizes the amnesty extension to 26 September is real. BUT, there was no drama getting it, and I did not need to obtain one before applying to convert over from a TR to a Non-O. I simply put in my application, the IO collated all the documents needed. She then sent me to Counter L with my passport, where I filled in a very basic form. After 5 minutes the passport was back with a stamp. I then took the passport back to the original counter (no queue), everything was double-checked, and I was told to come back in two weeks. Counter L looked at no other documents, presumably because it is integrated with the Non-O application process.

Thanks for the report. Yep, despite some doubters, it does seem where needed embassy's are issuing the free stamp. 

 

edit: a bit confused, you needed the free stamp or not? You said you "..did not need to obtain one" but then your language suggests you did. 

 

If the stamp you mentioned is the free one (and not the Non-O), you go back in 2 weeks for the actual non-O stamp? Are they going to do a house visit in that time (assuming it's for marriage), or does that come after the stamp? 

Edited September 5, 2020 by greggraham

[Jackson B]

17 minutes ago, greggraham said:

Thanks for the report. Yep, despite some doubters, it does seem where needed embassy's are issuing the free stamp. 

 

edit: a bit confused, you needed the free stamp or not? You said you "..did not need to obtain one" but then your language suggests you did. 

 

If the stamp you mentioned is the free one (and not the Non-O), you go back in 2 weeks for the actual non-O stamp? Are they going to do a house visit in that time (assuming it's for marriage), or does that come after the stamp? 

I did not need to make any effort to get the "free stamp" BEFORE making my Non-O application. It was given as part of the process at CW. Just walk from Counter C to Counter L, then back again.

Yes, I believe if approved, they will give me the 90-day Non-O stamp (or is it a whole page paper sticker?) in two weeks. In the meantime, they say they will make a house visit. (It's for a retirement option). I was warned to be ready to answer my phone, as the visit could come on any day.

[Mike Teavee]

7 minutes ago, Jackson B said:

I did not need to make any effort to get the "free stamp" BEFORE making my Non-O application. It was given as part of the process at CW. Just walk from Counter C to Counter L, then back again.

Yes, I believe if approved, they will give me the 90-day Non-O stamp (or is it a whole page paper sticker?) in two weeks. In the meantime, they say they will make a house visit. (It's for a retirement option). I was warned to be ready to answer my phone, as the visit could come on any day.

So we're all 100% clear... Did they 1st stamp your passport with the "Free Stamp" until the 26th September & then do your non-O extension OR just do the Non-O extension?

 

Edit: Normally there isn't a home visit required for "Retirement" so I can't think why you didn't get your extension straight away... 

 

Can you please confirm... 

1. Are you converting to a Non-O or extending an existing Non-O 
2. On what basis are you getting the Visa (800K in the bank/65K Income OR 400K in the bank/40K Income)
3. Are you married to a Thai or have Thai children.

 

Sorry to ask so many questions but there are a lot of guys that might be encouraged by your experience who could be left disappointed if they don't have all of the background info. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited September 5, 2020 by Mike Teavee

[greggraham]

54 minutes ago, Jackson B said:

I did not need to make any effort to get the "free stamp" BEFORE making my Non-O application. It was given as part of the process at CW. Just walk from Counter C to Counter L, then back again.

Yes, I believe if approved, they will give me the 90-day Non-O stamp (or is it a whole page paper sticker?) in two weeks. In the meantime, they say they will make a house visit. (It's for a retirement option). I was warned to be ready to answer my phone, as the visit could come on any day.

Glad it was easy ???? 

I also thought house visit was just for marriage, but maybe not.

The "come back in two weeks" makes sense w/ the OP and needing to apply 14 days before the end of amnesty to review the application. 

Edited September 5, 2020 by greggraham

[greggraham]

37 minutes ago, Mike Teavee said:

Can you please confirm... 

1. Are you converting to a Non-O or extending an existing Non-O 
2. On what basis are you getting the Visa (800K in the bank/65K Income OR 400K in the bank/40K Income)
3. Are you married to a Thai or have Thai children.

It seems the user is converting from a TR (but on amnesty) to a Non-O retirement. Please confirm @Jackson B, and thanks for sharing. 

[Jackson B]

48 minutes ago, Mike Teavee said:

So we're all 100% clear... Did they 1st stamp your passport with the "Free Stamp" until the 26th September & then do your non-O extension OR just do the Non-O extension?

 

Edit: Normally there isn't a home visit required for "Retirement" so I can't think why you didn't get your extension straight away... 

 

Can you please confirm... 

1. Are you converting to a Non-O or extending an existing Non-O 
2. On what basis are you getting the Visa (800K in the bank/65K Income OR 400K in the bank/40K Income)
3. Are you married to a Thai or have Thai children.

 

Sorry to ask so many questions but there are a lot of guys that might be encouraged by your experience who could be left disappointed if they don't have all of the background info. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hi Mike,

It's for a retirement Non-O visa. Not extension, as I don't have the visa yet. As I said, I'm converting from a TR (tourist) to a Non-O in order to stay in Thailand longer. No marriage. 800k. I just posted a more detailed report in a new post. I have never applied for a visa within the country before, so there seems to be more scrutiny, hence the home visit? There was a lot of paperwork to organise, for sure.

 

The "free stamp" comes in the middle of the process. It was like (1) check documents, (2) get free stamp, (3) come back to finish and pay. The whole process took about 40 minutes from walking in.

 

And no requirement for insurance either.

Edited September 5, 2020 by Jackson B
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[greggraham]

1 minute ago, Jackson B said:

Hi Mike,

It's for a retirement Non-O visa. Not extension, as I don't have the visa yet. As I said, I'm converting from a TR (tourist) to a Non-O in order to stay in Thailand longer. No marriage. 800k. I just posted a more detailed report in a new post. I have never applied for a visa within the country before, so there seems to be more scrutiny, hence the home visit? There was a lot of paperwork to organise, for sure.

 

The "free stamp" comes in the middle of the process. It was like (1) check documents, (2) get free stamp, (3) come back to finish and pay. The whole process took about 40 minutes from walking in.

Just edited my post, finally got what you mean about not needing before applying.

 

40 minutes is great, congrats! If my immigration can get past the fact I used an embassy letter stamp (which currently they say means I can't apply for anything), this is pretty much exactly what I want to do.

[Jackson B]

3 minutes ago, greggraham said:

Just edited my post, finally got what you mean about not needing before applying.

 

40 minutes is great, congrats! If my immigration can get past the fact I used an embassy letter stamp (which currently they say means I can't apply for anything), this is pretty much exactly what I want to do.

Yeah, there was the initial suggestion in other posts that you need to go to MTT to get this "free stamp" before you can do anything else. That was NOT my experience. I got it all done in one visit at CW. If you are under the amnesty, you should also be able to apply before Sept 11. But you need to show 800k transferred from abroad. That took me two days with TransferWise.

 

In the last couple of days, I got an email from my embassy saying they would provide a supporting letter, but only for people applying for a long-stay visa or for those whose travel plans had been scotched by the airlines. Proof required. I have no idea why embassies would be so unkind to their own citizens.

[greggraham]

8 minutes ago, Jackson B said:

Yeah, there was the initial suggestion in other posts that you need to go to MTT to get this "free stamp" before you can do anything else. That was NOT my experience. I got it all done in one visit at CW. If you are under the amnesty, you should also be able to apply before Sept 11. But you need to show 800k transferred from abroad. That took me two days with TransferWise.

 

In the last couple of days, I got an email from my embassy saying they would provide a supporting letter, but only for people applying for a long-stay visa or for those whose travel plans had been scotched by the airlines. Proof required. I have no idea why embassies would be so unkind to their own citizens.

Yeah the US Embassy letter said you couldn't do both things on the same day, so good to know you can. At yet more proof that this wasn't all a hoax, and something that can help those in no man's land get on a hard stamp and apply for a proper extension. 

 

Did you have/give them a supporting letter? I have one, but on our last IO visit it didn't really help. But the lady at my IO is trying to see if she can work things out for us, so fingers crossed. But a lot of "mai dai" when we went on Wednesday ???? 

Edited September 5, 2020 by greggraham

[Jackson B]

3 minutes ago, greggraham said:

Yeah the US Embassy letter said you couldn't do both things on the same day, so good to know you can. At yet more proof that this wasn't all a hoax, and something that can help those in no man's land get on a hard stamp and apply for a proper extension. 

 

Did you give them your embassy letter? I have one, but on our last IO visit it didn't really help. But the lady at my IO is trying to see if she can work things out for us, so fingers crossed. But a lot of "mai dai" when we went on Wednesday ???? 

No embassy letter was required. My embassy refused to give one until yesterday (too late). The IO had previously warned not to pay attention to rumours or embassies.

[Peter Denis]

9 hours ago, Jackson B said:

I appreciate that this thread has moved on to more diverse and individually complicated issues, but I thought I would report back on my visit to CW on Thursday. I can confirm that the "free stamp" that regularizes the amnesty extension to 26 September is real. BUT, there was no drama getting it, and I did not need to obtain one before applying to convert over from a TR to a Non-O. I simply put in my application, the IO collated all the documents needed. She then sent me to Counter L with my passport, where I filled in a very basic form. After 5 minutes the passport was back with a stamp. I then took the passport back to the original counter (no queue), everything was double-checked, and I was told to come back in two weeks. Counter L looked at no other documents, presumably because it is integrated with the Non-O application process.

Thanks for the report and congrats with your successful application for a 90-day Non Imm O Visa for reason of retirement at CW.

But there is some confusion in the posts addressing your CW application report.  So allow me to clear that up.

The facts:

- You applied at CW for a 90-day Non Imm O Visa for reason of retirement from your original Tourist Visa (and presently on the Amnesty extension).

- Such application can only be done when you still have at least 15 days left on your permission to stay because you need to be on a non-expired permission to stay for the application 'under consideration' during that 2-week period.

- So you needed to do the application ultimately 11 September (15 days before expiry of the Amnesty extended permission to stay till 26 Sept).

- The only thing which is NOT STANDARD in your report, is that CW now provided a 'stamp' as part of the process to handle your application, which is meant to make the Amnesty extended permission to stay till 26 Sept 'valid'. 

Note: There are IOs that consider the Amnesty extended permission to stay as different from a regular permission to stay, hence the need for a 'valid' permission to stay at these IOs, which is now taken care of by the 'free stamp'.  There are also IOs where the Amnesty extended permission to stay til 26 Sept is considered valid, and where such regularization stamp is not needed.

- You did not need an Embassy letter for that 'free stamp'.  The Embassy letter is only needed when you are NOT applying for a Non Imm O Visa or 1-year extension of stay, as that Embassy letter supported application would just provide you with a legit permission to stay to 'sort things out' when not able to exit Thailand at the moment of application  And it is unclear whether such an Embassy letter supported special extension of stay would allow you later on to apply for a long-stay Visa or extension.

- You are presently 'under consideration' and need to come back in 2 weeks, to get the 90-day permission to stay stamp in your passport based on the Non Imm O Visa for reason of retirement.

- In the Bangkok area (contrary to other provinces) also an application for a Non Imm O Visa for reason of retirement will invoke a 'house visit', to check whether you are indeed living at the address you provided.     

[greggraham]

3 hours ago, Peter Denis said:

- You did not need an Embassy letter for that 'free stamp'.  The Embassy letter is only needed when you are NOT applying for a Non Imm O Visa or 1-year extension of stay, as that Embassy letter supported application would just provide you with a legit permission to stay to 'sort things out' when not able to exit Thailand at the moment of application  And it is unclear whether such an Embassy letter supported special extension of stay would allow you later on to apply for a long-stay Visa or extension.

Yeah the "'sort things out' when not able to exit Thailand at the moment of application" is how I understand the embassy letter stamp, sort things out = make your plans to leave, and in my experience once you are in that "exit Thailand" gang you cannot later apply for a long-stay visa/extension. So I suggest people are careful before using going down that route, check with your IO if that's the plan and see how they interpret it.

Edited September 6, 2020 by greggraham

[Jackson B]

8 hours ago, greggraham said:

Yeah the "'sort things out' when not able to exit Thailand at the moment of application" is how I understand the embassy letter stamp, sort things out = make your plans to leave, and in my experience once you are in that "exit Thailand" gang you cannot later apply for a long-stay visa/extension. So I suggest people are careful before using going down that route, check with your IO if that's the plan and see how they interpret it.

Exactly. The IO warned me in advance that they would not consider my application if I got a further extension. So people basically have until Friday get a long-stay visa if they don't have something else to cover them. I think there is some confusion at the Australian Embassy, as they are offering letters for people who want to apply for a long-stay visa (but the catch-22 is that they will only do so for people who have already applied). However, in my experience an embassy letter was not required.

 

But who knows what will happen a few days before the 26th!?

[greggraham]

19 hours ago, Jackson B said:

Exactly. The IO warned me in advance that they would not consider my application if I got a further extension. So people basically have until Friday get a long-stay visa if they don't have something else to cover them. I think there is some confusion at the Australian Embassy, as they are offering letters for people who want to apply for a long-stay visa (but the catch-22 is that they will only do so for people who have already applied). However, in my experience an embassy letter was not required.

 

But who knows what will happen a few days before the 26th!?

Agree. Tomorrow could be the cabinet meeting that changes everything...

[mikem20]

There have been two reports about getting the free stamp to the 26th September to use for applying for a change from TR visa to a long term visa. One a week ago that said the poster did it at MTT and another two days ago that was done at CW. But if I understood correctly the stamp was given as part of the process of accepting an application for and granting a long term visa at those IOs, not given independently. One report even mentions the stamp was given on a slip of paper. 
My problem is that my IO wont give a regular 30 days extension to go from to retirement visa. So would it be worth it to go to Bangkok to try to get only this free stamp, to use for retirement visa at my original IO? I can't gather from these reports if that's possible, and which IO is suitable for just that.

Ubon Ratchathani has been mentioned as a IO that would be friendly to giving the regular 30 days extension, which would give me until middle of October to apply for retirement visa. But I've seen no reports confirming if that is consistently the case. It's a bit costly to go there just on a hope. 

[FlyingThai]

31 minutes ago, mikem20 said:

There have been two reports about getting the free stamp to the 26th September to use for applying for a change from TR visa to a long term visa. One a week ago that said the poster did it at MTT and another two days ago that was done at CW. But if I understood correctly the stamp was given as part of the process of accepting an application for and granting a long term visa at those IOs, not given independently. One report even mentions the stamp was given on a slip of paper. 
My problem is that my IO wont give a regular 30 days extension to go from to retirement visa. So would it be worth it to go to Bangkok to try to get only this free stamp, to use for retirement visa at my original IO? I can't gather from these reports if that's possible, and which IO is suitable for just that.

Friend of mine has similar concerns as he's waiting to switch over to a Thailand Elite Visa but they still hasn't gotten the approval back from immigration to issue the welcome letter.

 

Both his Embassy and Thailand Elite aren't helpful in providing any documents or support to go to CW and apply for the elusive SEP 26th stamp or even a 30 day extension. I told him to go there with the application and status printout from their website and try his luck. Worst case there is always someone around from TE at the government complex if they have questions.

[Jackson B]

2 hours ago, mikem20 said:

There have been two reports about getting the free stamp to the 26th September to use for applying for a change from TR visa to a long term visa. One a week ago that said the poster did it at MTT and another two days ago that was done at CW. But if I understood correctly the stamp was given as part of the process of accepting an application for and granting a long term visa at those IOs, not given independently. One report even mentions the stamp was given on a slip of paper. 
My problem is that my IO wont give a regular 30 days extension to go from to retirement visa. So would it be worth it to go to Bangkok to try to get only this free stamp, to use for retirement visa at my original IO? I can't gather from these reports if that's possible, and which IO is suitable for just that.

Ubon Ratchathani has been mentioned as a IO that would be friendly to giving the regular 30 days extension, which would give me until middle of October to apply for retirement visa. But I've seen no reports confirming if that is consistently the case. It's a bit costly to go there just on a hope. 

Mine was a stamp in the passport, and given as part of the application for Non-O. I was warned they would not be accepting such applications after the 11th September. But things may have changed, of course, as embassies now seem willing to issue letters of support.

[DinoDownunder]

On 9/5/2020 at 11:22 PM, Jackson B said:

Hi Mike,

It's for a retirement Non-O visa. Not extension, as I don't have the visa yet. As I said, I'm converting from a TR (tourist) to a Non-O in order to stay in Thailand longer. No marriage. 800k. I just posted a more detailed report in a new post. I have never applied for a visa within the country before, so there seems to be more scrutiny, hence the home visit? There was a lot of paperwork to organise, for sure.

 

The "free stamp" comes in the middle of the process. It was like (1) check documents, (2) get free stamp, (3) come back to finish and pay. The whole process took about 40 minutes from walking in.

 

And no requirement for insurance either.

 

I'm in the exact same position. I'm waiting for transferwise to come through which should be today sometime I hope.

I  just have a couple of questions

1. Did you fill out the TM.86? (Application for change of visa)

2. Did you obtain your bankbook update and the bank letter at CW the same day? I have read that some banks require one or more days before you can receive it and I'm with Bangkok bank so was going to do it downstairs at CW prior to applying.

3. When entering the immigration office did you just say you wanted to convert a TR to a 90 day non-o visa and they sent you in the right direction? OR advised them you are on amnesty and need a hard stamp to convert?

 

Thanks for all the information you've been updating us with mate!

Cheers,

Dean

 

[alw22]

Just got back from a small non-Bangkok immigration office and was given an under consideration stamp until Oct 16 and a promised additional 10 days if I return to their office on that date.

 

I arrived in January on a normal tourist visa exemption and already used my pre-covid 30 day extension.

 

I used the US embassy letter for this new extension.  They reviewed it carefully, but didn't require any additional documentation, just usual tm7 and 1900 baht.

 

[Benitostacos]

4 minutes ago, alw22 said:

Just got back from a small non-Bangkok immigration office and was given an under consideration stamp until Oct 16 and a promised additional 10 days if I return to their office on that date.

 

I arrived in January on a normal tourist visa exemption and already used my pre-covid 30 day extension.

 

I used the US embassy letter for this new extension.  They reviewed it carefully, but didn't require any additional documentation, just usual tm7 and 1900 baht.

 

Awesome, thanks for the update! Do you mind if I ask which office?

[vermin on arrival]

26 minutes ago, Benitostacos said:

Awesome, thanks for the update! Do you mind if I ask which office?

I think he uses Samut Prakan.

[vermin on arrival]

the under consideration stamp effectively removes the possibility to turn it into a long stay visa, no?

[Jackson B]

 

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I  just have a couple of questions

1. Did you fill out the TM.86? (Application for change of visa)

2. Did you obtain your bankbook update and the bank letter at CW the same day? I have read that some banks require one or more days before you can receive it and I'm with Bangkok bank so was going to do it downstairs at CW prior to applying.

3. When entering the immigration office did you just say you wanted to convert a TR to a 90 day non-o visa and they sent you in the right direction? OR advised them you are on amnesty and need a hard stamp to convert?

 

Thanks for all the information you've been updating us with mate!

Cheers,

Dean

 

1. Yes, I used a TM86. It's virtually identical to the TM87 (which you would use if you did not arrive on a visa). If you had a TR, then use the TM86.

 

2. Bankbook update for total amount and letter same day. Yes. Go to your bank in the morning before you get to CW. There are some bank branches at CW too, but not all banks are there. I think BBL is there.

 

For the proof of overseas transfer, you will need your credit advice slips from BBL (available for free, before the application date. For those, you need the transferwise receipts, passport, and bankbook. Although, as you are already with BBL, perhaps that process will be easier. The BBL declaration of foreign funds transfer can be arranged before the day you go to CW.)

 

3. Just ask for a queue ticket for Counter C1. Half way through the process you will be directed to L1, where they will put the stamp in, and then return to C1. It all flows relatively smoothly.

 

4. Good luck. And do it before Friday, in case they were serious about not issuing non-O after that.

Edited September 8, 2020 by Jackson B

[BritTim]

6 hours ago, vermin on arrival said:

the under consideration stamp effectively removes the possibility to turn it into a long stay visa, no?

Good point ... because you only have 10 additional days once the final extension of your permission to stay comes through. I do not think even well connected agents can overcome the 15 day rule.

[DinoDownunder]

On 9/8/2020 at 6:20 PM, Jackson B said:

 

1. Yes, I used a TM86. It's virtually identical to the TM87 (which you would use if you did not arrive on a visa). If you had a TR, then use the TM86.

 

2. Bankbook update for total amount and letter same day. Yes. Go to your bank in the morning before you get to CW. There are some bank branches at CW too, but not all banks are there. I think BBL is there.

 

For the proof of overseas transfer, you will need your credit advice slips from BBL (available for free, before the application date. For those, you need the transferwise receipts, passport, and bankbook. Although, as you are already with BBL, perhaps that process will be easier. The BBL declaration of foreign funds transfer can be arranged before the day you go to CW.)

 

3. Just ask for a queue ticket for Counter C1. Half way through the process you will be directed to L1, where they will put the stamp in, and then return to C1. It all flows relatively smoothly.

 

4. Good luck. And do it before Friday, in case they were serious about not issuing non-O after that.

Thanks mate.

Just an update for anyone it may help..

1. TM86 filled out no problems. Was advised many times it needs to be all completed before the end of friday (for the time being) or thats the end of that.

 

2. Bank letter previous day and updated Bank book the same day fine. The local bank advised they couldnt give me a letter regarding a foreign transfer so I was denied this at immigration. I was told the code FTT was acceptable before as it means a foreign transfer transaction. Not quite good enough for imm at CW.

Fix was to go downstairs at CW to Bangkok Bank and they did it on the spot (no charge), guess you learn its always better to go to a more farang experienced area for these types of issues.

KBank also does have a proper branch there as well.

 

3. You were spot on. After lunch there was an older lady going around checking paperwork before the ticket queue no. She was outstanding and probably the only reason my 2nd attempt of the day worked out. Quite a little round the corner move and totally appreciated as the boss lady was to be honest left a bad taste in my mouth. Guess thats why they love their little agents helping out.

I also had a form shown to me for the first time showing what was needed. Geez i wish i had that before.. i had to draw a map freehand (thought that was the old days when not showing a TM30 and rental contact) and mess around showing 3 months of rental receipts when all was paid in cash at the time.

If anyone wants a copy msg me.

 

4. Yep I had a lot of good luck the 6 hours there. Thanks for the advise!

I am now under consideration and waiting for a call to visit from an immigration officer to take photo of me in my condo.

 

Just one question,

Is there any info/links on how this all works? She said 'they call anytime in 2 week, you need to answer', 'take photo you' then come back. I'd really like be prepared and not cause any issues if not able to answer the phone etc? 

 

Appreciate any help.

cheers

Dean