Trump defends accused Kenosha gunman, saying his life was likely in danger

[Matzzon]

If someone is black or white does not matter, or if someone shoots in self defense or kills is not relevant to this story. It also doesn´t matter if the guy that shot is a white supremacist or a fisherman doing needlepoint. What is relevant is that the big enormous clown Donald Trump is dealing with thing that is for the court room to decide.

 

Here we have a president that goes out and defend a single citizen. Since when has that become a presidents job. That he have always tried to defend his personal friends, that is widely known. Only that is pathetic, but this is a new low. Can somebody remove this utterly overgrown toddler from his office. Please!

If you after this look at it another way. How in the world can a 17 year old that gets attacked by protesters suddenly just have an assault rifle at hand just for the reason to protect himself. I mean, a knife I would have understood and even a pistol. But just to pick up an assault rifle out of your pocket, that´s the man. I guess he just brought it with him for protection. Really??? How thick is Mr DT?

[Heppinger]

1 minute ago, Matzzon said:

Here we have a president that goes out and defend a single citizen. 

Your comment is childish considering the people are out rioting for a single citizen.  The only difference i can see is that one was a crack addicted criminal who does porn movies and the other is a young idealistic naive kid who cleans graffiti off walls.

[Sujo]

3 minutes ago, Heppinger said:

Your comment is childish considering the people are out rioting for a single citizen.  The only difference i can see is that one was a crack addicted criminal who does porn movies and the other is a young idealistic naive kid who cleans graffiti off walls.

Yep, no graffiti at his own town, needed to go interstate with a long gun

[Heppinger]

2 minutes ago, Sujo said:

Yep, no graffiti at his own town, needed to go interstate with a long gun

I thought he lived 20 minutes away, and at one stage worked at one of the businesses he was trying to protect,  either way i don't really care how far he had to travel in order to snuff out a bolshevick pedophile 

[Tippaporn]

3 hours ago, webfact said:

The Republican president, who has made law and order a main theme of his re-election campaign, declined to condemn violent acts by his supporters and railed against what he called rioting and anarchy carried out by "left-wing" protesters.

 

Former Democratic Vice President Joe Biden, Trump's opponent in the Nov. 3 election, accused the president of stoking violence with his rhetoric, while insisting that rioters and looters be prosecuted.

Don't you just love this article's attempt at role reversal?  It's written to make it appear Trump to be the one declining to condemn acts of violence and Biden to be the one calling for the prosecution of violence.  Credit where credit is due.  These reporters are really good at what they do.

[Matzzon]

15 minutes ago, Heppinger said:

Your comment is childish considering the people are out rioting for a single citizen.  The only difference i can see is that one was a crack addicted criminal who does porn movies and the other is a young idealistic naive kid who cleans graffiti off walls.

Yeah, I thought that was what you would see. (To quote Johnny Castle´s answer to Dr. Jake Houseman in Dirty Dancing, 1987)

[Heppinger]

5 minutes ago, Matzzon said:

Yeah, I thought that was what you would see. (To quote Johnny Castle´s answer to Dr. Jake Houseman in Dirty Dancing, 1987)

Never saw Dirty Dancing, though I'm careful to not put baby in the corner.

[Rimmer]

Off topic troll post removed

[Dap]

3 hours ago, TopDeadSenter said:

All the evidence I have seen shows Kyle acted in self defence. No idea where people get the terrorist murderer white supremacist gun smuggler narrative from, was it from Congresswoman Pressley's twitter feed? I know she claimed this without a shred of evidence. Kyle's lawyer, Lin Wood of Covington fake news MAGA kid fame, is suing all and sundry for defamation for making up a very silly and false narrative. 

 People should probably wait for more evidence and clarity before rushing to defame a minor.

A "minor", who took a bus to a protest area with a semi automatic weapon! Pretty much says it all 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

This, sadly, is what happens when you start allowing people who have no business being armed with deadly weapons to be allowed to possess and carry deadly weapons.  People get killed.

 

I don't think civil rights protesters should be allowed to carry and use deadly weapons.  I don't think right wing militias should be allowed to carry and use deadly weapons. I don't think baby-faced teenagers should be allowed to carry and use deadly weapons.  People are gonna get killed.

 

Also, police need to start enforcing the laws neutrally and fairly for all -- not encouraging and handing out water to right-wing armed militias, while arrested, beating and pepper-spraying or rubber bulleting unarmed protesters.

 

Ahh... and of course... STOP killing black Americans who aren't posing a lethal threat to anyone.

 

Edited September 1, 2020 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[Chomper Higgot]

Trump makes these remarks on the eve of visiting the city in which these killings took place.

 

A text book dog whistle to the rightwing extremists in his base.

 

Edited September 1, 2020 by Chomper Higgot

[Chomper Higgot]

Trump infamously said he could shoot someone in the head on 5th Avenue and not lose the support of his base.

 

We now have evidence members of Trump’s base can shoot people on any high street and not lose Trump’s support.

[tribalfusion001]

It says a lot about a country when you have 17 year old vigilantes patrolling the streets with assault rifles and killing people, nothing good!

 

Nothing will improve in the USA, only going to get worse as both sides are entrenched in hatred.

[tribalfusion001]

1 hour ago, CorpusChristie said:

Its only certain areas that are out of control , not the whole Country

It will be out of control all over the country on the 4th November whoever wins.

[Pattaya Spotter]

1 hour ago, CorpusChristie said:

Its only certain areas that are out of control , not the whole Country

Yes, almost exclusively Democrat Party run cities and states...curious that.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

15 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Trump infamously said he could shoot someone in the head on 5th Avenue and not lose the support of his base.

 

We now have evidence members of Trump’s base can shoot people on any high street and not lose Trump’s support.

 

Well put...

 

[scorecard]

4 hours ago, Jingthing said:

The accused murderer is a white nationalist vigilante and an American president defends him. How low can he go? Always lower.

Sure, but let's remember trump is the president of law and order. (That means his version of the law.)

[Pattaya Spotter]

1 hour ago, brommers said:

To this outsider there is a strange fascination in watching a nation that cannot differentiate between the Kardashians and real life. And as for lecturing the rest of the world about democracy I can only say "on yer bike sonny" to Trump, Pompeo and the rest of that junta.

It seems you may be the one with a problem if you can't distinguish between a democratically elected government and an unelected "junta."

Edited September 1, 2020 by Pattaya Spotter

[FritsSikkink]

1 hour ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

The state of mind of someone when they fire a gun isn't relevant in "civilized" countries...so you mean they can fire them whenever they want?

Read again until you understand.

[FritsSikkink]

1 hour ago, CorpusChristie said:

There were lots of violent people out on the streets 

Stay inside. Police should stop abusing their power, then no need for demonstrations.

[Pattaya Spotter]

29 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

Ahh... and of course... STOP killing black Americans who aren't posing a lethal threat to anyone.

The police kill more white than black people per year...almost twice as many. How about people look at the facts and not relying on emotions and media hysteria when discussing the police.

 

https://www.statista.com/statistics/585152/people-shot-to-death-by-us-police-by-race/

Edited September 1, 2020 by Pattaya Spotter

[K in BKK]

Im not always in violation of state open carry laws but when I am I always make sure I stop by a demonstration full of disaffected people, just for a look.

 

This kid went looking for trouble, he found it. Good luck with being tried as an adult.

[Eric Loh]

10 minutes ago, tribalfusion001 said:

It says a lot about a country when you have 17 year old vigilantes patrolling the streets with assault rifles and killing people, nothing good!

 

Nothing will improve in the USA, only going to get worse as both sides are entrenched in hatred.

I am afraid that you right. Lots more display of weaponry at demonstration. In May, hundreds of men armed with assault rifles tried to enter the state capitol building in Michigan to protest the lockdown measures. More show of force and none backing down. An increase in violence is quite likely. US really in need for leaders to calm the nation. Will not expect POTUS to have the empathy and ability to do that. Will be just content that he don't add fuel to the already volatile situation. Even that will be high improbable.  

[Pilotman]

Trump has no moral compass, none at all.  He is basically a stupid man who, by more luck than judgement, and a rich father, has managed to crawl up to where he is now. He is a joke, a low intelligent individual, who has attained power because of the innate stupidity of the voters and the sleazy reputation of his opponent.  Leader of the free world, I think not.  He couldn't  lead a starving dog to food.  

[DBath]

4 hours ago, CorpusChristie said:

If the kid was about to get attacked and potentially killed , you can forgive him for shooting in self defence 

Any idiot who watches the entire video (Not just the last part that CNN keeps showing) will see it was clearly self defense. 

[tribalfusion001]

4 minutes ago, Pilotman said:

Trump has no moral compass, none at all.  He is basically a stupid man who, by more luck than judgement, and a rich father, has managed to crawl up to where he is now. He is a joke, a low intelligent individual, who has attained power because of the innate stupidity of the voters and the sleazy reputation of his opponent.  Leader of the free world, I think not.  He couldn't  lead a starving dog to food.  

I wonder how the visit to Kenosha will go today, hmm????

[Heppinger]

3 minutes ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

The police kill more white than black people per year...almost twice as many. How about people look at the facts and not relying on emotions and media hysteria when discussing the police.

 

https://www.statista.com/statistics/585152/people-shot-to-death-by-us-police-by-race/

Facts are tantamount to heresy when concerning cultural marxists.  Hysterical they will get when their emotions are not celebrated. 

[tribalfusion001]

Just now, DBath said:

Any idiot who watches the entire video (Not just the last part that CNN keeps showing) will see it was clearly self defense. 

555555555555555555????

[jcsmith]

1 minute ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

The police kill more white people annually than black people...almost twice as many. How about people look at the facts and not rely on their emotions when thinking about policing in their communities.

 

https://www.statista.com/statistics/585152/people-shot-to-death-by-us-police-by-race/

Black Americans represent 13% of the population, white Americans are at least 60.4% and up to 72% depending on how you classify hispanics.  But let's say 60% to 13% you'd expect if all things were equal to see 4.6x more whites shot by police than blacks if all things were equal. That's not what you see:

Year on Year Number of Whites vs. Blacks killed ratio:

2017: 2.04x
2018: 1.9x
2019: 1.57x
2020: 1.96x
Average: 1.87x more whites are killed by police than blacks.
Expected ratio: 4.6x more.

That means that blacks by population are shot 247% more often than whites. And it's not just in shootings. You can see similar numbers across the board in the justice system. 
 

[CorpusChristie]

3 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said:

Stay inside. Police should stop abusing their power, then no need for demonstrations.

I would prefer to have Police brutality, rather than mob rule on the streets