Popular Post webfact Posted September 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 1, 2020 Charlie Hebdo re-runs Prophet Mohammad cartoons to mark attack trial FILE PHOTO: Flowers are seen outside the satirical newspaper Charlie Hebdo's former office on the fifth anniversary of the attack and a siege at a Kosher supermarket which killed 17 people in Paris, France January 7, 2020. REUTERS/Gonzalo Fuentes -/File Photo PARIS (Reuters) - French satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo is republishing caricatures of the Prophet Mohammad which unleashed a wave of anger in the Muslim world to mark the start of the trial of alleged accomplices in the militant attack against it 2015. Among the cartoons, most of which were first published by a Danish newspaper in 2005 and then by Charlie Hebdo a year later, is one of Mohammad wearing a bomb-shaped turban with a lit fuse protruding. "We will never lie down. We will never give up," editor Laurent "Riss" Sourisseau wrote in a piece to accompany the front cover that will be published in print on Wednesday. Twelve people, including some of the magazine's best-known cartoonists, were killed when Said and Cherif Kouachi stormed the Paris offices of Charlie Hebdo and sprayed the building with automatic gunfire. The Kouachi brothers and a third Islamist gunman who killed five people in the 48 hours that followed the Charlie Hebdo massacre were shot dead by police in different stand-offs, but 14 of their alleged accomplices go on trial on Wednesday. The decision to republish the cartoons will be seen by some as a defiant gesture in defence of free expression. But others may see it as a renewed provocation by a magazine that has long courted controversy with its satirical attacks on religion. After the 2006 publication of the cartoons, Jihadists online warned the weekly would pay for its mockery. For Muslims, any depiction of the Prophet is blasphemous. "The freedom to caricature and the freedom to dislike them are enshrined and nothing justifies violence," the French Council of the Muslim Faith wrote on Twitter in response. Muslims have previously said the turban cartoon branded all Muslims as terrorists, as did a Charlie Hebdo cartoon showing the Prophet reacting to Islamist militants by saying: “It’s hard to be loved by idiots.” In 2007, a French court rejected accusations by Islamic groups that the publication incited hatred against Muslims. (Reporting by Richard Lough; Editing by Giles Elgood) -- © Copyright Reuters 2020-09-02 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Poet Posted September 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 1, 2020 I stopped reading Charlie Hebdo after the attack. For whatever reason, the quality of the cartoons got a lot worse. 2 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post torturedsole Posted September 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 1, 2020 Good news. Nothing wrong with satire and if not embraced then what can we do? We won't be bullied and fair play to the French for their resilience. 24 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dimitriv Posted September 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 1, 2020 8 minutes ago, Poet said: I stopped reading Charlie Hebdo after the attack. For whatever reason, the quality of the cartoons got a lot worse. For whatever reason? Maybe because most cartoonist were killed during the attack? 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Poet Posted September 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 1, 2020 1 minute ago, dimitriv said: For whatever reason? Maybe because most cartoonist were killed during the attack? Whoosh! 1 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post thaibeachlovers Posted September 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 1, 2020 Good news, but I hope they have good security. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Hna Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 Be a real winner if the bookies started taking on bets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 A troll post has been removed along with replies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matzzon Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 This is great! Let´s just se if the group that laughs behind the back of others can keep their people clam and behave in a civil manner this time. I very much doubt it, though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tug Posted September 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 1, 2020 Good for them it’s about time for the Muslim mullah learn to have a sense of humor heavan knows everyone takes pot shots at all the religions they don’t get all bent and start killing people 11 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezzra Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, torturedsole said: Good news. Nothing wrong with satire and if not embraced then what can we do? We won't be bullied and fair play to the French for their resilience. And you really belivethat is still a "satire"? have you learned nothing of have going on with the world in the last 20-30 years vis-a-vis the world Vs. Islam/Muslims?... Edited September 2, 2020 by ezzra 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Opl Posted September 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 2, 2020 (edited) 24 minutes ago, ezzra said: And you really belivethat is still a "satire"? have you learned nothing of have going on with the world in the last 20-30 years vis-a ve theworld Vs. Islam/Muslims?... in France blasphemy is no crime and religion can be mocked . Superstition and ignorance won't have the final word - Macron february 2020 ; Declaring blasphemy “is no crime,” French President Emmanuel Macron defends a young critic of Islam who has been receiving death threats and harassment on social media. " The law is clear: we have the right to blaspheme, to criticize, to caricature religions. " https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/12/macron-wades-into-french-girls-anti-islam-row-saying-blasphemy-is-no-crime-mila - Macron february 2020 ; "political islam" has "no place" in France https://www.rfi.fr/en/france/20200218-France-Macron-Mulhouse-unveils-strategy-fight-Islamist-separatism - Macron september 2020 : "I Won't Condemn Cartoons of Prophet Mohammad" "There is in France a freedom to blaspheme which is attached to the freedom of conscience. I am here to protect all these freedoms. In France, one can criticize a president, governors, blaspheme," https://www.dw.com/en/emmanuel-macron-refuses-to-condemn-charlie-hebdo-cartoons-of-prophet-mohammad/a-54788078 Edited September 2, 2020 by Opl 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Oxx Posted September 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 2, 2020 5 minutes ago, Opl said: in France blasphemy is no crime and religion can be mocked . Superstition and ignorance won't have the final word Given mass economic immigration from the Muslim world and the high fertility of Muslim women, it's not inconceivable that the superstition and ignorance of Islam will have the final word and freedom of speech will be lost, not only in France, but across much of Western Europe. Even in a democracy, their tendency to vote according to the diktats of the local mosque means that their influence can far outweigh their statistical numbers. 12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opl Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 Just now, Oxx said: Given mass economic immigration from the Muslim world and the high fertility of Muslim women, it's not inconceivable that the superstition and ignorance of Islam will have the final word and freedom of speech will be lost, not only in France, but across much of Western Europe. Even in a democracy, their tendency to vote according to the diktats of the local mosque means that their influence can far outweigh their statistical numbers. - Macron february 2020 ; ""A problem arises when, in the name of religion, some want to separate themselves from the Republic and therefore not respect its laws,” "political islam" has "no place" in France https://www.france24.com/en/20200219-macron-unveils-curbs-on-foreign-imams-in-france-in-bid-to-combat-separatism 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Yinn Posted September 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 2, 2020 Christian and Muslim loons. Fighting and killing millions each other hundreds years already. The Bible is fiction. The Quran is fiction. Can believe 100 year ago. But science proof it now. Amazing people in 2020 believe this. And fight. And kill about it. Everyday. Up to them if believe that. But kill the other team? For what. Ranong have lot muslim. Some Christian (not much). No problem here. Why France want problem. For what. Stupid people. (The loons) What Santa think about kill everybody? 5 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opl Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Yinn said: Why France want problem. For what. if you knew what the French did to their monarchy, you wouldn't ask Edited September 2, 2020 by Opl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnray Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 Thank you Charlie Hebdo. We must mark the attack trial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Orton Rd Posted September 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 2, 2020 The zealots ordering death are only following the example of the prophet who once had two girls put to death for singing a satirical song about him. He had a thin skin, had no sense of humor and was violent, how can you expect his followers who think he was the perfect man to be different? 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opl Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 (edited) 17 minutes ago, johnray said: Thank you Charlie Hebdo. We must mark the attack trial. the entire trial will be filmed, just like Klaus Barbie's one has been ( https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/barbie-trial-shown-on-french-tv-635059.html ) and it's rare enough to be mentioned. Edited September 2, 2020 by Opl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxx Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 37 minutes ago, Orton Rd said: the prophet who once had two girls put to death for singing a satirical song about him Not true. Only one girl was put to death. The other ran away, and was ultimately pardoned by the oh-so-compassionate Mohammed. And anyway, what is one girl compared with the hundreds upon hundreds he murdered, such as the 300+ Jews of the Banu Qurayza tribe because they refused to accept him as a prophet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Aylesham Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 1 hour ago, Oxx said: Given mass economic immigration from the Muslim world and the high fertility of Muslim women, it's not inconceivable that the superstition and ignorance of Islam will have the final word and freedom of speech will be lost, not only in France, but across much of Western Europe. Even in a democracy, their tendency to vote according to the diktats of the local mosque means that their influence can far outweigh their statistical numbers. This is certainly true of Pakistan where the Mullahs have never got more than 15% of the vote. But they have street power and the politicians have long ago put up the white flag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorgal Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 57 minutes ago, Orton Rd said: The zealots ordering death are only following the example of the prophet who once had two girls put to death for singing a satirical song about him. He had a thin skin, had no sense of humor and was violent, how can you expect his followers who think he was the perfect man to be different? The Kouachi brothers told just after the killing that they belong to a group of Anwar Al Awlaki, part of Yemeni Al Quaida franchise. This Anwar Al Awlaki died in 2011 in Yemen, while the Kouachi brothers did the killings 4 yours later in 2015. Witnesses inside the Charlie Hebdo building surviving the attack are talking about 3 persons : 2 persons were armed, the third one wasn’t armed and didn’t join the 2 others with the car. The 3rd person didn’t join the Kouachi brothers in their escape and unmasked hold up in a shop with a bazooka north of Paris. Not really Islamic fashion to steal money with a bazooka. Later on the day they went to eat a burger in a Quick fastfood restaurant close to the Belgian border. Bacon and burgers are grilled on the same non-hallal plate. After the burger meal they went back closer to Paris to hide in a random factory. They didn’t use the bazooka against the police force of +/- 200 men. Your 2+1 zealots didn’t really behave according to traditional Islam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4737 Carlin Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 1 hour ago, Yinn said: Can believe 100 year ago. But science proof it now. Yes, science has proofed it. There is definitely no point in anyone having any kind of faith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orton Rd Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Thorgal said: Your 2+1 zealots didn’t really behave according to traditional Islam. 'I was made victorious with terror'- the Prophet Mohammad The Hadith, collected by Bukhari (4.52.220) Edited September 2, 2020 by Orton Rd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender Rodriguez Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 "my god is better than your god, you have to die" and that is why I am an atheist 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jspill Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 All of the mainsteam media including Charlie Hebdo still support mass migration of Muslims and others into the West. Charlie Hebdo isn't on our side here, what they do just makes sure migrants hate us and see all white people as 'racist' when they get here, leading to more violence and unrest, which the elites are perfectly happy about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorgal Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 1 hour ago, Orton Rd said: 'I was made victorious with terror'- the Prophet Mohammad The Hadith, collected by Bukhari (4.52.220) Etymology of the word “terror” has changed since the origin of religious wars in that time and region. Moreover, you refer to a hadith that has been composed and written down +/- 200 years after the life of the Prophet. The killings of Charlie Hebdo case were even mentioned and applauded in a fake religious context on a website. The website mentioned “The Almighty” Prophet which is impossible and against basics of traditional Islam. I’m not a Muslim and even me, I know that Muslims believe in Allah the almighty god and Muhammad is their Prophet. Even Jesus Christ and Abraham are Prophets in Islam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orton Rd Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 (edited) Typical apologist response- the words meant a different thing then and written down long after- so was the Quran and the rest of the Hadiths, you cannot pick and choose what to accept as genuine and what not to accept based on when it was written down. There is no proof the the main Hadith and most respected is any less reliable than any other. Leaving scripture aside Mohammad clearly did engage in warfare with the Meccans, agreed to a peace treaty then deviously broke it to attack Mecca again. He had Jews executed after promising them amnesty, robbed caravans and had people killed on a whim, sounds like terror to me. BTW Voltaire never said that quote, a biographer did long after he was dead Edited September 2, 2020 by Orton Rd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammieuk1 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 Heads will roll no doubt ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick501 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 Good on them to take a stand. And they now nervously await to be murdered by the "peaceful religion." 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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