Oregon man says Portland shooting was self defense

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Oregon man says Portland shooting was self defense

By Andrew Hay

 

Protesters face off with police near the North Precinct Portland Police Bureau during a demonstration against police violence and racial inequality in Portland, Oregon, U.S., September 2, 2020. REUTERS/Caitlin Ochs

 

(Reuters) - A 48-year-old Oregon man said he acted in self defense during the fatal shooting of a supporter of a right-wing group in Portland as he thought he and a friend would be stabbed, Vice News reported on Thursday.

 

"I had no choice. I mean, I, I had a choice. I could have sat there and watched them kill a friend of mine of color. But I wasn't going to do that," Michael Reinoehl said in a video interview published by Vice News about the Saturday shooting of Aaron Danielson, 39.

 

Reinoehl did not say he shot Danielson in the fragment of video shown by Vice News before the full interview is aired on Thursday night.

 

The Oregonian newspaper reported Reinoehl was under investigation in the killing that took place after Danielson, a supporter of the Patriot Prayer group, participated in a rally in support of President Donald Trump.

 

Portland police did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

 

President Donald Trump signed a memo on Wednesday that threatens to cut federal funding to "lawless" cities, including Seattle, Portland, New York and Washington. This report produced by Jonah Green.

 

Reinoehl, a self-declared anti-fascist, was active in Black Lives Matter demonstrations against racism and police brutality in Portland that have gone on for nearly 100 days, according to messages and videos on his Instagram feed.

 

He said in posts on Facebook and Instagram he was a professional snowboarder and a U.S. Army veteran and was prepared to fight "to change the course of humanity."

 

"I am 100% ANTIFA," he said in a June 16 post, using the term for the anti-fascist movement. "We truly have an opportunity right now to fix everything. But it will be a fight like no other! It will be a war and like all wars there will be casualties."

 

His Facebook page says he is from Gresham, Oregon, a community around 15 miles (24 km) east of Portland.

 

(Reporting by Andrew Hay; Editing by Leslie Adler and Bill Berkrot)

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2020-09-04

 

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[tribalfusion001]

Kyle was self defence so this is self defence too.

[Mama Noodle]

The fact that he’s giving interviews instead of sitting in a cell is why the country continues to be so divided. 

[Tug]

30 minutes ago, Mama Noodle said:

The fact that he’s giving interviews instead of sitting in a cell is why the country continues to be so divided. 

Oh I don’t know about that if he shot the dude they will catch up to him and if appropriate charge him.as you well know the reason the country is so divided is because trump stokes and inflames the differences at every opportunity and creates the opportunity’s as well it’s what he does it’s all he’s got he is what he is

[Mama Noodle]

9 minutes ago, Tug said:

Oh I don’t know about that if he shot the dude they will catch up to him and if appropriate charge him.as you well know the reason the country is so divided is because trump stokes and inflames the differences at every opportunity and creates the opportunity’s as well it’s what he does it’s all he’s got he is what he is

Yeah, It’s trumps fault that antifa dude murdered a guy in a liberal safe haven and hasn’t been arrested yet even though the whole planet knew he did it within a day of the shooting and he’s got several illegal firearms charges in the past (which makes it illegal for him to even own, let alone carry a firearm in public spaces)....

[Pattaya Spotter]

Waiting for the all the condemnations of this killer from the Democrat Party and its supporters and fellow travelers.

[Chomper Higgot]

46 minutes ago, Mama Noodle said:

Yeah, It’s trumps fault that antifa dude murdered a guy in a liberal safe haven and hasn’t been arrested yet even though the whole planet knew he did it within a day of the shooting and he’s got several illegal firearms charges in the past (which makes it illegal for him to even own, let alone carry a firearm in public spaces)....

Where’s is your evidence of murder?

 

The shooter has stated ‘self defense’ a court has not yet heated the case, let alone come to a finding.

 

[Chomper Higgot]

20 minutes ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

Waiting for the all the condemnations of this killer from the Democrat Party and its supporters and fellow travelers.

If he’s found guilty of murder or unlawful killing, throw the book at him.

[Cryingdick]

At least the summer of loveis becoming a more diversified event.

[RoadWarrior371]

1 hour ago, tribalfusion001 said:

Kyle was self defence so this is self defence too.

So much wrong with this post, but I guess it correctly portrays the stereotypical liberal.  Rock on.  ????

[stevenl]

1 hour ago, Mama Noodle said:

Yeah, It’s trumps fault that antifa dude murdered a guy in a liberal safe haven and hasn’t been arrested yet even though the whole planet knew he did it within a day of the shooting and he’s got several illegal firearms charges in the past (which makes it illegal for him to even own, let alone carry a firearm in public spaces)....

So this is murder and the Kelosha guy was self defense 

 

[Mama Noodle]

30 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Where’s is your evidence of murder?

 

The shooter has stated ‘self defense’ a court has not yet heated the case, let alone come to a finding.

Well for one there’s video of it. 
 

And second, how can it be “self defense” when he’s saying he shot him to protect someone else. So by his own admission there was no threat to his own life. 
 

And in the video there’s nobody else but antifa killer and the dead guy. 

[Mama Noodle]

11 minutes ago, stevenl said:

So this is murder and the Kelosha guy was self defense 

Kenosha guys self defense claim is backed up by video evidence. 
 

Antifa murderers claim is not backed up by video evidence. 

[mr mr]

this is america.....guns in my area...i got the strap...i gotta carry it. 

[RoadWarrior371]

32 minutes ago, Mama Noodle said:

Well for one there’s video of it.

And second, how can it be “self defense” when he’s saying he shot him to protect someone else. So by his own admission there was no threat to his own life.

And in the video there’s nobody else but antifa killer and the dead guy. 

One does not simply silence a liberal with facts.....  ????

[Chomper Higgot]

It is now being reported that shooter has been killed by police during his arrest.

[CorpusChristie]

4 hours ago, Tug said:

Oh I don’t know about that if he shot the dude they will catch up to him and if appropriate charge him.as you well know the reason the country is so divided is because trump stokes and inflames the differences at every opportunity and creates the opportunity’s as well it’s what he does it’s all he’s got he is what he is

Fourth post , a few minutes and the Trump bashing begins , in a story that has nothing to do with Trump and he wasnt even mentioned in the OP

[CorpusChristie]

4 hours ago, tribalfusion001 said:

Kyle was self defence so this is self defence too.

In what way was this self defense ?

Seems like he just went and shot him in the head for no reason 

[CorpusChristie]

2 hours ago, stevenl said:

So this is murder and the Kelosha guy was self defense 

 

From the video evidence , it seems that way 

[Scott]

Troll post reported and removed.  

[Kelsall]

Well, he's dead now. Federal law enforcement took him out.

 

https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/suspect-in-fatal-portland-shooting-reported-killed-as-officers-move-in/

Edited September 4, 2020 by Kelsall

[moe666]

It is what it is

[Scot123]

6 hours ago, Tug said:

Oh I don’t know about that if he shot the dude they will catch up to him and if appropriate charge him.as you well know the reason the country is so divided is because trump stokes and inflames the differences at every opportunity and creates the opportunity’s as well it’s what he does it’s all he’s got he is what he is

Madness. Dems have  caused this from even before Trump took office. To even make that statement shows the blindness and hatred Dems have. 

[CorpusChristie]

43 minutes ago, Kelsall said:

Well, he's dead now. Federal law enforcement took him out.

 

https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/suspect-in-fatal-portland-shooting-reported-killed-as-officers-move-in/

Any reports of how he actually died ?

[John Drake]

46 minutes ago, Kelsall said:

Well, he's dead now. Federal law enforcement took him out.

 

https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/suspect-in-fatal-portland-shooting-reported-killed-as-officers-move-in/

According to your article: "Reese Monson, a leader in the local protest movement who also helps organize security, said all the people who helped with security in Portland, including Reinoehl, were trained on de-escalation."

 

Sounds to me as if Reese Monson trained this killer and included him in the organization and that Reese, if not criminally liable, is at least personally liable for civil damages along with anyone else involved in the protest who worked with this guy.

Edited September 4, 2020 by John Drake

[chuang]

Let's the civil war begins....

[Kelsall]

He was an admitted member of a terrorist organization Antifa and an admitted killer. Details are sketchy but I wonder if President Trump ordered the hit. 

Edited September 4, 2020 by Kelsall

[Sujo]

6 hours ago, Mama Noodle said:

Yeah, It’s trumps fault that antifa dude murdered a guy in a liberal safe haven and hasn’t been arrested yet even though the whole planet knew he did it within a day of the shooting and he’s got several illegal firearms charges in the past (which makes it illegal for him to even own, let alone carry a firearm in public spaces)....

You didnt seem so fast to label the white supremist a murderer, or any issues of him illegally having the gun or breaking curfew.

[candide]

1 hour ago, Kelsall said:

Well, he's dead now. Federal law enforcement took him out.

 

https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/suspect-in-fatal-portland-shooting-reported-killed-as-officers-move-in/

The article gives some info about what happened that night.

 

"The man who captured video of the shooting, Justin Dunlap, said it appeared that Danielson reached to his hip.

“He pulled from his side, just like he was pulling a gun,” Dunlap said.

But in other video shot during the encounter, someone can be heard flagging that Danielson was pulling out a can of mace. “He’s Macing you, he’s pulling it out,” the person warned.

It appeared from the video that Danielson sprayed mace just as two gunshots could be heard, and Danielson went down."

Edited September 4, 2020 by candide

[CorpusChristie]

3 minutes ago, Sujo said:

You didnt seem so fast to label the white supremist a murderer, or any issues of him illegally having the gun or breaking curfew.

Stay on topic