Biden leads Trump by 12 points nationally among likely voters - Reuters/Ipsos poll

[snoop1130]

Biden leads Trump by 12 points nationally among likely voters - Reuters/Ipsos poll

By Chris Kahn

 

FILE PHOTO: U.S. President Donald Trump and Democratic U.S. presidential nominee and former Vice President Joe Biden supporters gather outside while Trump plays golf at Trump National Golf Club in Sterling, Virginia, U.S., September 5, 2020. REUTERS/Yuri Gripas/File Photo

 

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Democrat Joe Biden leads President Donald Trump by 12 percentage points nationally among likely U.S. voters, according to a Reuters/Ipsos opinion poll that also showed the number of persuadable voters had shrunk compared with four years ago.

 

The Sept. 3-8 poll, released on Wednesday, found 52% of likely voters planned to support Biden, while 40% would back Trump. Three percent said they would vote for another candidate, and just 5% said they remained undecided with less than two months to go until the Nov. 3 presidential election.

 

The survey showed the number of voters who had not yet backed a major-party candidate to be less than half of what it was in 2016, and that Biden currently had the advantage in securing the national popular vote.

 

Even if the remaining undecided voters threw their support behind Trump, the poll showed, he would still lose the popular vote to Biden.

 

Trump can still win re-election, however, without winning the national popular vote. U.S. presidential elections are not decided by the national vote but rather who wins the Electoral College, a contest based on a tally of wins from state-by-state contests.

 

Four years ago, Democrat Hillary Clinton got almost 3 million more votes than Trump, only to see her Republican rival narrowly win the Electoral College and the presidency.

 

This was the first time the Reuters/Ipsos poll measured support for the 2020 candidates among likely voters.

 

When measured by registered voters who include those less likely to vote, Biden leads Trump by 8 percentage points, versus his 7-point lead in a similar poll last week.

 

PANDEMIC, TRUST IN GOVERNMENT

 

The poll showed likely voters being primarily motivated by the coronavirus pandemic, which has killed more than 186,000 Americans and put millions out of work, and restoring trust in government.

 

When asked what was driving their pick for president, 28% said it was the candidate’s perceived ability to handle the coronavirus, and 23% said it was the ability to restore trust in government. An additional 19% said it was the candidate’s ability to boost the economy, and 14% said they were looking for a candidate who is “tough on crime.”

 

Fifty-one percent of likely voters said Biden would be better at handling the U.S. coronavirus response, while 38% said Trump would be better.

 

But Trump has the edge when it comes to their perception of who would be "tough on crime and civil unrest," with 45% choosing Trump, while 40% said Biden would be better.

 

On the economy, neither candidate has the upper hand among likely voters: 45% of likely voters said they thought Biden would be better for the national economy and expanding the workforce, while 45% said they thought Trump would be best.

 

Biden, who has led Trump for much of the year in most national opinion polls, has benefited from a recent migration toward the Democrats among some of the most reliable voters in the United States: college-educated whites.

 

While non-college whites still largely support Trump over Biden, the president has not consolidated the dominant level of support he enjoyed with that group four years ago when he was running against Clinton.

 

So far, opinion polls by other media outlets show Biden with a small edge over Trump in a handful of competitive states, including Arizona, Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Florida. That advantage also appears to have narrowed in some cases over the past few weeks.

 

The Reuters/Ipsos poll was conducted online, in English, throughout the United States. It gathered responses from 823 likely voters, including 390 who identified as Democrats and 351 who identified as Republicans. The poll has a credibility interval, a measure of precision, of about 4 percentage points.

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2020-09-09

 

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[tifino]

funny they didn't survey

 -  for who they thought would best repel China! - rather than hug them

(it is not just americans, but the whole civilised world that is at stake here)

[Chomper Higgot]

1 minute ago, tifino said:

funny they didn't survey

 -  for who they thought would best repel China! - rather than hug them

Better not ask that question in America’s farming communities.

[J Town]

2 minutes ago, tifino said:

funny they didn't survey

 -  for who they thought would best repel China! - rather than hug them

Same could be said about Russia.

[Tug]

Let’s hope this continues and we can force that abomination out of office 

[Jingthing]

Thats the good news.

Here's the bad news. 

If Biden wins the popular vote by less than 3 percent he easily loses though 2 is much better odds than 2.

4 percent and its about 50 50.

At 5 percent he almost definitely wins.

What kind of democracy it where you need to win by 5 percent to be sure of winning?

[Orton Rd]

12 points lead, about the same as Hillary then ????

[OneMoreFarang]

1 hour ago, snoop1130 said:

while 40% would back Trump

What else does he have to do before those 40% won't back him anymore? [Deleted] Amazing USA.

[ballpoint]

Just now, OneMoreFarang said:

What else does he have to do before those 40% won't back him anymore? [Deleted] Amazing USA.

Behave decently and sincerely.

[OneMoreFarang]

Just now, ballpoint said:

Behave decently and sincerely.

That will never happen as long as he can still move his lips.

[Orton Rd]

1 hour ago, OneMoreFarang said:

What else does he have to do before those 40% won't back him anymore? [Deleted] Amazing USA.

Fail as the President maybe?

[Jingthing]

1 hour ago, Orton Rd said:

12 points lead, about the same as Hillary then ????

Good point but there is a key difference. Among the people that hated both 45 and HRC the majority voted for 45. But polling shows among the people that hate both 45 and Biden the majority plan to vote for Biden. There are a lot of people that hate both but Biden doesn't inspire the passionate hatred that HRC did.

[Jingthing]

Just now, Orton Rd said:

Fail as the President maybe?

Nah. He already has failed as president. 

[Morch]

1 minute ago, Orton Rd said:

Fail as the President maybe?

 

Nah, he's been there done that.

 

Edit: Doh!

[Opl]

last updayte 2 hours ago

https://ig.ft.com/us-election-2020/

If the election were held today, the latest polls suggest this outcome in the electoral college:

[Damual Travesty]

I do not believe this poll one bit, and after Trump wins, and the GOP sweeps across the nation I will revisit this poll again.  The Democrat Party has turned into parody at this point, obvious to all who are not inside of their bubble.

[Damual Travesty]

3 hours ago, Tug said:

Let’s hope this continues and we can force that abomination out of office 

The President of the United States of America is not an abomination. He is the President of the United States of America, the Greatest Nation on planet earth, he has done an admirable job. His re-election is all but secured and obvious to all who are not in the Democrat bubble of blindness.

[Damual Travesty]

24 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Good point but there is a key difference. Among the people that hated both 45 and HRC the majority voted for 45. But polling shows among the people that hate both 45 and Biden the majority plan to vote for Biden. There are a lot of people that hate both but Biden doesn't inspire the passionate hatred that HRC did.

I have no idea what you are talking about. The American citizen is going to vote on policy. Look at violence in the streets, look at the Democrat response, remember the Mueller report and the outcome, the failed impeachment and outcome, they will listen to the speeches of Trump and Biden, realize that a policy of shutting down the US oil and gas industry is not prudent, that opening and decriminalizing the US border is not prudent, they understand that the best economic remedy for the American worker is to bring back manufacturing jobs to the USA. Surely, Americans understand the danger that Chinese threats are posing to ourselves and to our allies. Americans understand the Biden family and Hunter as a reflection of his Father perfectly well. Americans see that police forces are quitting over democrat lack of leadership, they recognize insanity when they see it and one contrived Democrat fake news story after another. The Democrat party has imploded and the last straw is an attempt to create violence and mayhem all the way to election day and most surely after. This election will go to Trump all the way. The African American vote will come out for him, the hispanic vote will come out for him, feeble attempts to cut into his base are just that - feeble.  It's Trump all the way and GOP sweep in both houses. You read it here!

[nattaya09]

40 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Good point but there is a key difference. Among the people that hated both 45 and HRC the majority voted for 45. But polling shows among the people that hate both 45 and Biden the majority plan to vote for Biden. There are a lot of people that hate both but Biden doesn't inspire the passionate hatred that HRC did.

Don't overthink it JT

[onthedarkside]

Name calling troll post and replies removed.

 

Edit:   Further posts reported and removed.  

 

[shdmn]

1 hour ago, Damual Travesty said:

The President of the United States of America is not an abomination. He is the President of the United States of America, the Greatest Nation on planet earth, he has done an admirable job. His re-election is all but secured and obvious to all who are not in the Democrat bubble of blindness.

Living with that much denial must be like cancer to your soul.

[Scott]

Troll posts removed.  

 

[Susco]

4 hours ago, Orton Rd said:

6 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

What else does he have to do before those 40% won't back him anymore? [Deleted] Amazing USA.

Fail as the President maybe?

 

He achieved that during his inauguration speech.

[Laza 45]

10 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

What else does he have to do before those 40% won't back him anymore? [Deleted] Amazing USA.

Admit responsibility for killing thousands of Americans.. but then.. the Trump supporters don't care.. Amazing indeed..

 

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-09-09/biden-says-trump-cost-american-lives-with-coronavirus-inaction?srnd=politics-vp&mi_u=CBLOO000006976190#&sref=9pdyQoSi

 

[MajarTheLion]

10 minutes ago, Laza 45 said:

Admit responsibility for killing thousands of Americans.. but then.. the Trumpsters don't care.. Amazing indeed..

 

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-09-09/biden-says-trump-cost-american-lives-with-coronavirus-inaction?srnd=politics-vp&mi_u=CBLOO000006976190#&sref=9pdyQoSi

 

Trump killed thousands of Americans because Joe Biden says so? Specious claim. But let's set that aside and take it at face value for the sake of discussion and debate of the principle communicated. Does that then mean the individual governors who made their own decisions on how to handle COVID-19 also killed Americans? I would love to know why that wouldn't seem reasonable.

[RoadWarrior371]

4 minutes ago, MajarTheLion said:

 Does that then mean the individual governors who made their own decisions on how to handle COVID-19 also killed Americans?

Lock 'em all up.  No Hypocrites allowed. 

 

 

[MajarTheLion]

Biden leads Trump by 12 points nationally among likely voters - Reuters/Ipsos poll

 

The headline, and thus the story, is mostly irrelevant because the United States of America does not elect presidents using a national popular vote. And we haven't even gotten into how the polls were worse than this for Trump in 2016. So obviously, credibility is an issue as well.

[shy coconut]

6 hours ago, Orton Rd said:

Fail as the President maybe?

I would love to see a list of his presidential achievements.

[Laza 45]

47 minutes ago, MajarTheLion said:

Trump killed thousands of Americans because Joe Biden says so? Specious claim. But let's set that aside and take it at face value for the sake of discussion and debate of the principle communicated. Does that then mean the individual governors who made their own decisions on how to handle COVID-19 also killed Americans? I would love to know why that wouldn't seem reasonable.

No not because Joe Biden says so.. because Trump admitted on tape to Woodward that he knew the virus was deadly and easily spread at the same time he was telling American people that it was a hoax.. Trump abandoned his responsibility to all of America and undermined the governors and prevented them from receiving the information and equipment they needed. But of course you will continue to believe that it is all a hoax   and anti Trump conspiracy... Amazing! 

[MajarTheLion]

1 hour ago, shy coconut said:

I would love to see a list of his presidential achievements.

Here are just three of many:

 

https://www.whitehouse.gov/trump-administration-accomplishments/

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/12/26/best-things-trump-has-done/

 

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/may/6/giving-trumps-accomplishments-their-due/