I've always been suprised at how much personal data Thai banks like to copy, I'm though impressed just how they like to reduce the amount of paper they reuse to  save on waste.

 

Yesterday I went into a bank in Hua Hin to obtain some advice, the friendly staff wrote all the information I requested on a blank sheet of paper, save that it was only blank on one side.

 

On the the other side was an application to open an account by an American guy living locally, I'm now in possession, or rather was, of the guys details, full name, date of birth, passport and tax numbers, local and US address and telephone numbers, along with copies of his signature and email address.

 

I've shredded the paper, but I'm sure it might have been of use to somebody, maybe I'm over thinking. 

You're not, and identity theft is a huge problem for those who get caught up in it.

I don't know whether it would have been helpful to notify the guy that the bank had been so cavalier with his personal data. This is Thailand. Having said that, in the USA he would have been entitled to bury the bank in lawsuits.

17 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Having said that, in the USA he would have been entitled to bury the bank in lawsuits.

Nah...at most the bank would be forced to give him 1 year of free credit monitoring...which has been the defacto solution whenever personal data has been hacked.

They do that because they then type those details in the computer.

 

The best thing is to make a habit of picking up or asking for the paper back after.

 

What would they do if the guy complained? all go and hide in the back office and deny the existence of a manager,

 

2 minutes ago, recom273 said:

They do that because they then type those details in the computer.

 

The best thing is to make a habit of picking up or asking for the paper back after.

 

What would they do if the guy complained? all go and hide in the back office and deny the existence of a manager,

 

It's going to get really interesting if computer hackers ever decide to target Thailand. Security here is on the same level as a piggy bank. But then, most of them would not have Thai script keyboards.

7 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

It's going to get really interesting if computer hackers ever decide to target Thailand. Security here is on the same level as a piggy bank. But then, most of them would not have Thai script keyboards.

Maybe they are careless with paper but I think front end cyber security is pretty good here (from what I’m told).
In the west there it seems a lot easier to abuse the payment systems and internet services, i tire of the endless 2-factor authentication to my phone or reciting an ID or passport number to complete a small transaction or task.

 

But, correct, if the figures for cyber crime were as high as road mortalities, then we should be worried.

and that is why my 400k  immigration account has no ATM attached to it ...

I've noted that some of the immigration forms have somebody's passport copy on the reverse side occasionally.

In the not so distant past you would often be served street food in immigration forms that had all kinds of personnel data.  Junk paper was used before plastic took over.

3 minutes ago, lopburi3 said:

In the not so distant past you would often be served street food in immigration forms that had all kinds of personnel data.  Junk paper was used before plastic took over.

 

A couple of years ago at a Cafe (attached to a hotel on Suk Soi 18) my son was given some scrap paper and crayons for some colouring etc (a nice touch). However the used side of the scrap paper had detailed information of the hotel guests (Name, Checkout date, Passport Number). Some of the guests were still in residence. 

 

I mentioned this to the Cafe Manager who really didn’t seem to recognise that this was an issue. 

 

 

15 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

I mentioned this to the Cafe Manager who really didn’t seem to recognise that this was an issue. 

 

not an issue for him

27 minutes ago, loong said:

I've noted that some of the immigration forms have somebody's passport copy on the reverse side occasionally.

Frequently in my experience. Also Tessabans use the blank sides of paper  forms with other persons personal details. I once asked for the procedure to apply for a Ye,low Tabien Bahn and they gave me a full copy of another farangs application containing all of his personal details. I burned it at home.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Just looked at my 90 day report. The back of it has a copy of another guy's passport with his date of birth etc. Brilliant for a person who wants to steal his ID.

Bloody hell. Shockingly lax. Isn't it against the law....if not, shouldn't it be?

They probably rejected his application = not a bank customer = no problem....

2 hours ago, Pedrogaz said:

Bloody hell. Shockingly lax. Isn't it against the law....if not, shouldn't it be?

Whether something is against the law has absolutely no relevance in Thailand.

On 9/20/2020 at 2:26 AM, theoldgit said:

I've shredded the paper, but I'm sure it might have been of use to somebody, maybe I'm over thinking. 

Yes, overthinking I'm quite sure. They only do this mountain of information collation, verification and extra due diligence to Americans because of this specific country's burdensome reporting requirements, snooping system and hypocrisy. That's why.

5 hours ago, mvdf said:

Yes, overthinking I'm quite sure. They only do this mountain of information collation, verification and extra due diligence to Americans because of this specific country's burdensome reporting requirements, snooping system and hypocrisy. That's why.

Everybody is subject to the same reporting requirements.

Same in the department of land transport and the registrar of motor vehicles; amazing what kind of notes on „recycled“ paper I was given over the years ....