PM orders Thai authorities to seek Interpol’s help to apprehend Red Bull scion

[ezzra]

What i want to know, had it been just a joe shmo that ran the policeman down would this saga also take 8 years to finally see the light and issue a APB on him? why did it take so many times to open and close, yes guilty, not guilty to finally come to this that he's guilty? what is wrong with the Thai police?...

[connda]

Oh wow!  Another Red Notice that will be ignored by Interpol.

[crazykopite]

Smoke screen to distract away from the demonstrations being held this past weekend ,of course we all know nothing will come of it he must think we are all idiots.

[madmitch]

Amazingly bad judgement by the Deputy Attorney General in dropping the case! He's made things much worse for his client the Red Bull Family.

 

 

[yellowboat]

Not sure how Interpol reacts to the political posing and posturing of a coup leader.   As much as this person represents some of the things we do not like about the stellar wealthy in Thailand, will he get a fair trial?  Why now and not when the good general usurped power from the country?  The man is an embarrassment to the nation. 

[Katipo]

This sudden change of tact could be related to the protests. Corruption is one of the major issues. If the Government finally achieves something with relation to this case, they might hope it takes pressure off the more sensitive/difficult part of protesters calls for reform. "Hey look, we are doing something, you can go home now". And who knows, if they successfully take action in this case (and hopefully on other issues too), it make be enough... at least for a while.

[otherstuff1957]

13 minutes ago, madmitch said:

Amazingly bad judgement by the Deputy Attorney General in dropping the case! He's made things much worse for his client the Red Bull Family.

 

 

I think that this was more a case of "business as usual".  He just didn't realize how social media has changed the world.  20 years ago the case could have been dropped without any problems.  Now, however, the peasants have been empowered by the fact that anybody can start a hashtag or create a meme.  The media power that was formerly reserved for Newspapers and TV is now available to anyone who has a phone!

 

 

[rumak]

32 minutes ago, Flying Saucage said:

Here my 2 cents to the current development in the Red Bull case:

 

In general, Thai justice is a very simple thing. Forget all the Thai legal codes, especially the criminal code with its laws similar to rubber bands. They are not worth the paper they are written on. The real law in Thailand is the unwritten law of Sakdina! The courts always decide in favor of the more powerful and more rich people. Very simple concept of law indeed.

 

However, it becomes more interesting when not only Sakdina is involved, which I call the "vertical dimension". One should be aware that the elite is only unified against all those they locate in a lower position of the Sakdina pyramide. Then they all speak the very same language. But there is a "horizontal dimension" as well! The elite itself is not unified. There are different factions, opposing each other, fighting harshly against each other for the pole position.

 

Till a few years ago, 2 or 3 years, the most powerful faction was the one in which Prawit and his adjudants PM Prayut and Anupong are members. Looking how the Red Bull brat was protected during the last 8 years, his family might (might!) also be a member of this faction.

 

In the meantime, another faction became the most powerful, in which the generals Apirat and Narongphan (see the coming reshuffle of the army), but also Anutin and his family (Sinothai), Thamanat (the convicted drug dealer), and the King Power-family are members.

 

Now as an interesting observation, if as an example you look at the hassles which Premchai (Italthai) has been facing after he shot the black panther, one can assume that he is neither member of the first nor of the second of the factions mentioned above. Remember how outraged the Prayut government was about Premchai, beginning of 2018? It was so convenient for Prayut and Prawit at this time, to distract the attention of the populace from the other big scandal at this time, which was related to expensive watches. But, also keep in mind that Italthai and Sinothai are competitors. So, not sure about the final sentence for Premchai. It will not be as harsh as for mushroom picking by commoners, however.

 

So, what will happen now to the Red Bull brat might depend also how the most powerful faction estimates the public outrage resulting from the different options of a verdict. At least it seems that someone else became quite aware of that issue of public outrage, and took over the steering wheel in this case a few weeks ago. Someone from a faction to which Red Bull is not so closely associated.

 

Interesting to observe this and its outcome from an alien perspective.

 

Netflix has just started production on Season 1  .    First Episode Titled  :    Did the Bull use his horn ? 

[miamiman123]

Ok General you get m vote on this effort

 

[Baerboxer]

20 minutes ago, yellowboat said:

Not sure how Interpol reacts to the political posing and posturing of a coup leader.   As much as this person represents some of the things we do not like about the stellar wealthy in Thailand, will he get a fair trial?  Why now and not when the good general usurped power from the country?  The man is an embarrassment to the nation. 

 

Total nonsense. 

[Hi Tea]

32 minutes ago, connda said:

Oh wow!  Another Red Notice that will be ignored by Interpol.

Interpol issues the Notices, it's the international police forces that either ignore them or act on them.

[Baerboxer]

16 minutes ago, Katipo said:

This sudden change of tact could be related to the protests. Corruption is one of the major issues. If the Government finally achieves something with relation to this case, they might hope it takes pressure off the more sensitive/difficult part of protesters calls for reform. "Hey look, we are doing something, you can go home now". And who knows, if they successfully take action in this case (and hopefully on other issues too), it make be enough... at least for a while.

 

Hopefully, action will be taken as you elude to. But this is only one of many many high profile well reported internationally cases that either have been left unsolved or reached somewhat unsatisfactory conclusions for many observers.

 

If this sets a new standard, terrific. If it's a one off sop then not so good.

 

[klauskunkel]

2 hours ago, webfact said:

PM orders Thai authorities to seek Interpol’s help to apprehend Red Bull scion

Have these authorities no initiative by themselves at all?

Will the PM have to supervise each single step for this case to progress?

I'm not complaining, I'm happy there is some movement here... But this shows how totally broken and mistrusted the justice system is, that even a country's PM has to be personally involved.  

Edited September 22, 2020 by klauskunkel

[DeepSea]

46 minutes ago, Flying Saucage said:

In general, Thai justice is a very simple thing. Forget all the Thai legal codes, especially the criminal code with its laws similar to rubber bands. They are not worth the paper they are written on. The real law in Thailand is the unwritten law of Sakdina! The courts always decide in favor of the more powerful and more rich people. Very simple concept of law indeed.

 

Astute observation to reference Sakdina... Ostensibly abolished but still very much alive throughout Thailand. If you don't know of this ancient hierarchical system, it's well worth the time to do a little research, as it explains a lot about the perspective of Thai's and they way they interact with each other.

[bluesofa]

1 hour ago, PatOngo said:

This whole case from beginning till now just screams "Look at us, we are idiots!"

But they do it so well.

[elliss]

2 hours ago, otherstuff1957 said:

I wouldn't be surprised if the request to Interpol is written using invisible ink!

 

     A do not open before date ...

[connda]

54 minutes ago, ezzra said:

What i want to know, had it been just a joe shmo that ran the policeman down would this saga also take 8 years to finally see the light and issue a APB on him? why did it take so many times to open and close, yes guilty, not guilty to finally come to this that he's guilty? what is wrong with the Thai police?...

If you were the heir of a Thai billionaire, you'd probably know.

[potless]

39 minutes ago, connda said:

Oh wow!  Another Red Notice that will be ignored by Interpol.

You are right to wonder how much importance Interpol would attach to a years old hit and run case. But apparently the Thais have heard of a brilliant French detective and have demanded that he be assigned to the case. Inspector Clouseau is being briefed right now.

[FritsSikkink]

2 hours ago, JAS21 said:

More likely a vote catcher ploy

There is no election.

[tifino]

The 'authorities were too scared themselves to make the decision on their own merit; 

- as they fear the 'boy who cried wolf' syndrome 

 

[metisdead]

Some off topic posts and replies have been removed. 

[hsovereign]

2 hours ago, bobbin said:

It's time for Vorayuth to take one for the team..

 

Less than 10 years sentence. Plead guilty gets 50% commuted. Special privilege confinement. Conjugal visits. Early parole.

 

Sorted.

He's too much of a snowflake to do that, run to China would be my guess and hide out with Jho-low ????????????????????

[agood1963]

And i though he could sort everything out by himself .

[bluesofa]

44 minutes ago, rumak said:

Netflix has just started production on Season 1  .    First Episode Titled  :    Did the Bull use his horn ? 

I'm guessing it will be billed as science fiction.

[webfact]

PM orders Thai police to work with Interpol to bring Boss home

By The Nation

 

 

In a Facebook post on Monday (September 21), Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha instructed Thai police to collaborate with Interpol to bring Vorayuth “Boss” Yoovidhya home to face punishment.

 

On September 18, the Office of the Attorney-General (OAG) announced that the prosecutors had decided to indict Vorayuth on charges of using cocaine and reckless driving causing death.

 

Vorayuth, a scion of a billionaire family, hit the headlines again when CNN reported in August that the prosecutors had dropped the last charge against him over the 2012 killing of a motorcycle cop.

 

News of the prosecutors’ decision generated suspicion and questions began being asked.

 

Meanwhile, on his official Facebook page, Prayut said Thai police were calling on Interpol to help locate Vorayuth and bring him back to Thailand for prosecution.

 

“I ask every officer to handle this matter correctly and effectively,” Prayut’s post said, in which he also demanded an update within a week.

 

Source: https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30394933

 

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[bluesofa]

37 minutes ago, potless said:

You are right to wonder how much importance Interpol would attach to a years old hit and run case. But apparently the Thais have heard of a brilliant French detective and have demanded that he be assigned to the case. Inspector Clouseau is being briefed right now.

I think he's been involved in this case before, hasn't he?

I was sure it was A Shot In The Dark.

[RichardColeman]

Think If were Interpol, I'd want some clarity first. Namely.

1. Why did you let him go.

2. Who was responsible for letting him go and what jil terms are they serving now.

3. Are you - or other bribable people - going to let him go yet again.

 

Mute point really anyway. No country would deport him to a military based country who's election was rigged by the junta and who carries the drath penalty

[British Bulldog]

So how will the extradition work ? .. A Thai Police team go and get him ? ... then after 14 days in isolation in that Country, bring him back ... via what airline ? ... and then to the team and Redbull go into another 14 days isolation ... phew ... just the thought of it all ???????

[Jimbo2014]

3 hours ago, JAS21 said:

More likely a vote catcher ploy

Unlikely since votes dont count for much in Thailand these days.  More likely a smoke and mirrors stunt and nothing more.

[JusticeGB]

The order will go into immediate effect in 8 years time as many of our finest would complain if they had to hand back the contents of empty brown envelopes.