Artisi Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 2 hours ago, Bigz said: The brown envelopes can't help anymore. The case got too much worldwide media attention.. Do you really believe Thailand cares or is even aware of worldwide media attention? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobU Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 4 hours ago, NRGF said: We all know he will never come to any harm but what about the loss of face, not only to him but the whole family, that would be painful. I think 'loss of face' is vastly overrated. If you have enough money loss of face is irrelevant, 'Loss of Money' is more relevant in the modern world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobU Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 3 hours ago, Bigz said: The brown envelopes can't help anymore. The case got too much worldwide media attention.. I am in the UK there is no mention whatsoever of this case in UK media. Perhaps because he was last seen in London he is being protected by his wealthy peers over here. The wealthy Elite are an international group. Corruption and suppression occurs in every state in the world (including the UK) because the wealthy elite live in any state they want to and use their money to protect themselves and their 'friends'. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegman Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 25 minutes ago, RobU said: I am in the UK there is no mention whatsoever of this case in UK media. Perhaps because he was last seen in London he is being protected by his wealthy peers over here. The wealthy Elite are an international group. Corruption and suppression occurs in every state in the world (including the UK) because the wealthy elite live in any state they want to and use their money to protect themselves and their 'friends'. Yes, who can forget Pinochet. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinBoy2 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 49 minutes ago, RobU said: I am in the UK there is no mention whatsoever of this case in UK media. Perhaps because he was last seen in London he is being protected by his wealthy peers over here. The wealthy Elite are an international group. Corruption and suppression occurs in every state in the world (including the UK) because the wealthy elite live in any state they want to and use their money to protect themselves and their 'friends'. Ditto here in the US. There have been the occasional stories about Thailand, the protests, the Boss affair, but the idea that it has enraged overseas opinion is laughable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Tongue Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 13 hours ago, colinneil said: Wow so he has finally woke up, seeking Interpols help should have been done years ago. It never happened before, because those responsible for doing it were to busy extracting money from the family. Not at all. Simply a distraction from current political instability. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayhem11 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 When did he leave Meuang Thai? Yesterday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying Saucage Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 (edited) 40 minutes ago, Iron Tongue said: Not at all. Simply a distraction from current political instability. Agree. The powers that be feel some stress caused by public uproar already. They don't need and want the BS created by this little brat anymore. Now, they want to distract and they want to show the public that the rule of law can apply also to wealthy people. Needless to say, that this can only apply to those who are not members of the almighty number one faction in Thailand. It is helpful, but not sufficient to escape prosecution, if one belongs to another elitist faction. Neither this Red Bull brat belong to the new number one faction, nor his protector of the last 8 years Prayut (his group is indeed number two only now), nor (to give one more example) someone like Premchai the Panther-eater of Italthai. As a side note and a little bit off-topic, and to span the circle a even bit wider, also Taksin still leads his own faction, which some still see as number three, even today. But this does not help him much, as we all know. His hassles never had to do anyhing with corruption, as they are all corrupt, but only with power, networking, and the violation of some holy rules within the elite, which he committed. Edited September 22, 2020 by Flying Saucage 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgenon Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 Pronouncements always sound good. Why wouldn't i believe The General? A true gentleman of his word. ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthainess Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 20 hours ago, johng said: They did but something went wrong maybe they sent the request in written in Thai ? You are correct, and if my memory serves me well, there were delays because they spent weeks TRYING to translate it to English and I think the quote at the time was ''it is very difficult''. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthainess Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 20 hours ago, RotBenz8888 said: He's probably hiding in the safest country in the world where no one will ever find him.... Thailand. At his Mums house. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthainess Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 8 hours ago, pegman said: Yes, who can forget Pinochet. You mean Thatcher the witch's friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herfiehandbag Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 11 hours ago, herfiehandbag said: I don't know whether Interpol will act in the case of somebody tried "in absentia". I am pretty sure that the UK for example ( or for that matter most western countries) will extradite someone on that basis. Extradition is by no means a certain matter. The Red Bull family can afford the best of legal teams. The first question his defence will raise is why has the whole business taken so long. The various shenanigans surrounding the case up 'till know will give them plenty to work on. Thailand (the RTP) will have to submit evidence that would convince a court of his guilt, again in the face of stiff legal opposition. Para one: I meant will not extradite someone tried "in absentia". I hope that makes more sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chainarong Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 ???? Yeah Right ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthainess Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 Now evelly one will lub me to mut, pass the panther soup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henryford Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 It must be obvious where this guy is, do they really need interpol? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebell Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 Do Interpol extradite for traffic accidents? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikosan Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 18 hours ago, bluesofa said: An interesting last point. Does that mean that anyone arrested for murder based on a warrant to be tried in a US state which has the death penalty would not succeed? I don't know about Thailand, but in the UK they will extradite to a country with a death penalty for the offence, ONLY if they receive written and legally binding agreement that the death penalty will not be applied. However, as the death penalty is not relevant in this particular case, I don't see what the issue is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikosan Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 10 hours ago, pegman said: Yes, who can forget Pinochet. Pinochet was arrested in the UK on a red notice. I know, I was there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnarth Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 The look on the PM face says it all, Help me and I think there is a please voters in there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essox essox Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 23 hours ago, KhunKenAP said: Just hold the trial if is a no show and found guilty pass a lengthy sentence. The go for the Red Notice on a convicted criminal, before another statue of limitations passes. Quit screwing around. well put...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkady Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 With Interpol it is easy to follow on their website to see if a red notice has been issued which didn't happen the last time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesofa Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 24 minutes ago, Arkady said: With Interpol it is easy to follow on their website to see if a red notice has been issued which didn't happen the last time. Didn't it? I was sure someone posted a link/pic of our man in Ferrari on the site a year or so back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classic Ray Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 On 9/22/2020 at 1:47 PM, Hi Tea said: Interpol issues the Notices, it's the international police forces that either ignore them or act on them. Interpol is simply an intelligence gathering and recording body with no enforcement powers. The countries that are signatories simply assist each other by notifying Interpol of those they wish to interview. Interpol issues a Red Notice on receipt of credible information and the national forces try to arrest the subject. When arrested, evidence must be supplied to that country to justify extradition, sometimes quite difficult see Julian Assange etc. So let's hope he is arrested somewhere with a good extradition treaty with Thailand like the UK or US, where he won't be able to buy his way out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djayz Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 On 9/22/2020 at 11:35 AM, otherstuff1957 said: I wouldn't be surprised if the request to Interpol is written using invisible ink! OR worse yet, in Thinglish. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 6 hours ago, mikebell said: Do Interpol extradite for traffic accidents? Interpol don't extradite anybody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinBoy2 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 Well this seems to be following the same path as last time. Lots of hoopla, and no Red Notice, until they just couldn't ignore it. Red Notice issued then quietly withdrawn several weeks later. I just checked a few minutes ago, and the only Red Notice issued for Thailand was a Vietnamese national, Tran, Van Bac. This a well trodden lakorn, where you at the first episode you know the plot, struggle through 100 episodes for the conclusion you knew within the first 10 minutes of episode one 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebell Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 15 hours ago, Artisi said: Interpol don't extradite anybody. Deport then? If you don't know, just say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wealthychef Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 On 9/22/2020 at 10:53 AM, webfact said: the prosecutors in charge of the case have decided to indict the fugitive on charges of reckless driving causing the death of another person and illicit drug use These charges seem less serious than the implicit corruption that must have been in play to get him out of the country. If he is arrested and convicted on these charges it would be a miracle, but even then he won't go to jail. More whitewashing. The real problem is of course the impunity of wealthy elites from legal recourse when they hurt the powerless poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 1 hour ago, mikebell said: Deport then? If you don't know, just say. If you don't know, don't comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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