Dogs antibiotics, can we give people antibiotics to dogs and how to you give the pills ? hard to hide in food ?

[abonsa]

hello,

 

Dogs antibiotics, can we give people antibiotics to dogs (amoxicillin) and how to you give the pills ?

 

They are big and hard to hide in food for small dogs. Do you open the caps and spread the powder on something to eat ?

 

Thank you.

 

 

[Eindhoven]

Personally, I did. For a larger dog that had a rather nasty facial infection. I crushed half a tablet and mixed it with lactose free milk.

Five day course. One a day I think. Infection cleared up and didn't return. 

 

[bendejo]

I know someone who did it the other way around: she had a flu so she took horse antibiotics because they were and cheaper and didn't require a prescription (in the U.S.).  I told her it was not a good idea.

 

 

[Crossy]

I wouldn't, it's not as if vets are terribly expensive here.

 

As to giving him the pills - 

 

[worgeordie]

  On 9/24/2020 at 5:58 AM, bendejo said:

I know someone who did it the other way around: she had a flu so she took horse antibiotics because they were and cheaper and didn't require a prescription (in the U.S.).  I told her it was not a good idea.

 

 

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Nay,nay not a good idea,

regards worgeordie

[Eindhoven]

  On 9/24/2020 at 6:05 AM, Crossy said:

I wouldn't, it's not as if vets are terribly expensive here.

 

As to giving him the pills - 

 

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Amoxicillin/Clavulanate—This antibiotic combo is related to Penicillin and is used to treat a broad spectrum of bacterial infections, including skin infections, infections in the respiratory system, gastrointestinal infections, and genitourinary infections

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https://www.wedgewoodpharmacy.com/blog/posts/common-antibiotics-for-dogs-and-cats.html

 

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Dogs: The recommended dosage is 5 mg/lb of body weight twice a day

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[pgrahmm]

Lazada has these for injecting/inserting pills into your pets mouth.....Works with pills or liquid....Maybe at a pet supply?

Instead of trying to deal with the canine/fangs/tongue from the front while they're trying to clench, you can angle through the rear/side of the mouth past the point of no return.....

Better than getting bit + not as distressing for the animal....

[Lacessit]

I don't know if it's a good idea to give human medication to dogs.

There is a simple technique to administer pills to dogs. Vets can do it on their own, they have the practice, better with two people involved.

Hold the top jaw of the dog so the flaps of the mouth are folded over the top teeth. It stops the dog from biting. Then pry open the bottom jaw on the front. When the mouth is open, the second person tosses the pill down the dog's throat. Release the top jaw, keep the mouth closed, and rub the throat gently. The pill won't be coming back.

Don't try it on a cat.

[2long]

As others have said, it's a bad idea and vets are both cheap & better skilled than us mere mortals.

Stop being a cheap Charlie!

[Eindhoven]

  On 9/24/2020 at 7:20 AM, Lacessit said:

I don't know if it's a good idea to give human medication to dogs.

There is a simple technique to administer pills to dogs. Vets can do it on their own, they have the practice, better with two people involved.

Hold the top jaw of the dog so the flaps of the mouth are folded over the top teeth. It stops the dog from biting. Then pry open the bottom jaw on the front. When the mouth is open, the second person tosses the pill down the dog's throat. Release the top jaw, keep the mouth closed, and rub the throat gently. The pill won't be coming back.

Don't try it on a cat.

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I don't know if it's a good idea to give human medication to dogs.

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Perhaps you should post when you actually know.

 

There is no difference between the 'human' medicine and the one for dogs. Which is the question that was actually posed.

Too much drama. I'm sure the OP knew about vets before you mentioned them.

 

In my case, the dog lived on the beach; no chance to take to a vet and certainly no chance to pry it's jaws open.

No need for convoluted feeding instructions needing two people; the tablet can be crushed. I crushed between two spoons; but if a capsule, can simply open it. Contents won't last long.

 

Dog was certainly grateful for the help.

 

 

[cleopatra2]

  On 9/24/2020 at 7:20 AM, Lacessit said:

I don't know if it's a good idea to give human medication to dogs.

There is a simple technique to administer pills to dogs. Vets can do it on their own, they have the practice, better with two people involved.

Hold the top jaw of the dog so the flaps of the mouth are folded over the top teeth. It stops the dog from biting. Then pry open the bottom jaw on the front. When the mouth is open, the second person tosses the pill down the dog's throat. Release the top jaw, keep the mouth closed, and rub the throat gently. The pill won't be coming back.

Don't try it on a cat.

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If you hold the bottom jaw the dog cannot bite. The dogs jaw action is all in the lower mandible.

 

As for human medication the general consensus would be not to give unless you know the maximum tolerance of the ingredients.

 

Certain breeds may react differently to not only the same medicine but also different doses.

 

 

 

[Eindhoven]

  On 9/24/2020 at 7:36 AM, 2long said:

As others have said, it's a bad idea and vets are both cheap & better skilled than us mere mortals.

Stop being a cheap Charlie!

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Who said it was a bad idea and why do you think it's ok to insult the OP?

[Eindhoven]

  On 9/24/2020 at 7:45 AM, cleopatra2 said:

If you hold the bottom jaw the dog cannot bite. The dogs jaw action is all in the lower mandible.

 

As for human medication the general consensus would be not to give unless you know the maximum tolerance of the ingredients.

 

Certain breeds may react differently to not only the same medicine but also different doses.

 

 

 

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As for human medication the general consensus would be not to give unless you know the maximum tolerance of the ingredients.

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Brand Names and Other Names of Amoxicillin & Clavulanate

This drug is registered for use in humans and animals.

Human formulation: Augmentin® (SK-Beecham)

Veterinary formulation: Clavamox® (Beecham), Clavamox-Drops® (Beecham)

 

The veterinary version is just to make it palatable for animals.

 

So if the OP knows that his dog is not allergic to Penicillin, all should be fine.

 

https://www.zoetisus.com/products/dogs/clavamox/#

[cleopatra2]

  On 9/24/2020 at 7:57 AM, Eindhoven said:

 

 

 

 

 

Brand Names and Other Names of Amoxicillin & Clavulanate

This drug is registered for use in humans and animals.

Human formulation: Augmentin® (SK-Beecham)

Veterinary formulation: Clavamox® (Beecham), Clavamox-Drops® (Beecham)

 

The veterinary version is just to make it palatable for animals.

 

So if the OP knows that his dog is not allergic to Penicillin, all should be fine.

 

https://www.zoetisus.com/products/dogs/clavamox/#

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The problem with giving human medication to dogs or other animals is the presence of other ingredients. Flavouring , preservatives. 

A common addition in human medicine that would be toxic to animals is Xyliton.

 

 

[Lacessit]

  On 9/24/2020 at 7:45 AM, cleopatra2 said:

If you hold the bottom jaw the dog cannot bite. The dogs jaw action is all in the lower mandible.

 

As for human medication the general consensus would be not to give unless you know the maximum tolerance of the ingredients.

 

Certain breeds may react differently to not only the same medicine but also different doses.

 

 

 

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When the flesh of the mouth is folded over the top teeth, the dog won't bite itself. I agree it's the lower jaw that is mobile.

If you can hold a dog's mouth open with just one hand, you are much more skilled than I am.

The proposition dog physiology is identical to human physiology w.r.to medications is somewhat fanciful.

[userabcd]

It would probably be better to see and get a vet to prescribe something.

 

www.certapet.com/amoxicillin-for-dogs/

 

And from the linked article:

''Human amoxicillin is not the same as veterinarian amoxicillin. Amoxicillin for humans might contain ingredients that are unsafe for dogs. Ingredients toxic to dogs include artificial flavorings, colors, preservatives, and xylitol. The dosing for humans and animals is also different.''

[herfiehandbag]

Mr Pom managed to get his paws on a bag of generic immodium which I had carelessly left on my desk the other week. 

He must have had about four capsules.

It seemed to work in reverse on him.

 

As you can see, he is quite partial to Cheddar Cheese as and home made cider as well!

[Grumpy one]

The vet we use put one of our chihuahua's on antibiotics, I looked them up same ones a doctor would give

Place the meds in the mutts mouth, lift his head so the nose it high up and hold mouth shut, also rub under his neck at the same time

He will swallow the meds

[Eindhoven]

  On 9/24/2020 at 10:42 AM, userabcd said:

It would probably be better to see and get a vet to prescribe something.

 

www.certapet.com/amoxicillin-for-dogs/

 

And from the linked article:

''Human amoxicillin is not the same as veterinarian amoxicillin. Amoxicillin for humans might contain ingredients that are unsafe for dogs. Ingredients toxic to dogs include artificial flavorings, colors, preservatives, and xylitol. The dosing for humans and animals is also different.''

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Why? Why not just buy the product for dogs if you are nervous.

 

You would need 220 mg of Xylitol per kg of a dogs weight to cause any harm to a dog. The posts here are verging on the ridiculous.

[scubascuba3]

  On 9/24/2020 at 5:58 AM, bendejo said:

I know someone who did it the other way around: she had a flu so she took horse antibiotics because they were and cheaper and didn't require a prescription (in the U.S.).  I told her it was not a good idea.

 

 

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Kramer did the same thing 

 

https://youtu.be/wXeV5cqb_3Y

[userabcd]

  On 9/24/2020 at 11:10 AM, Eindhoven said:

 

Why? Why not just buy the product for dogs if you are nervous.

 

You would need 220 mg of Xylitol per kg of a dogs weight to cause any harm to a dog. The posts here are verging on the ridiculous.

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Not ridiculous at all.

 

A vet would be the most qualified authority to diagnose a condition and dispense medications for pets.

[faraday]

  On 9/24/2020 at 10:59 AM, herfiehandbag said:

As you can see, he is quite partial to Cheddar Cheese as and home made cider as well!

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Is he from Somerset? 555!

 

Homemade cider sounds interesting.....????

[Asquith Production]

  On 9/24/2020 at 5:58 AM, bendejo said:

I know someone who did it the other way around: she had a flu so she took horse antibiotics because they were and cheaper and didn't require a prescription (in the U.S.).  I told her it was not a good idea.

 

 

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She said "Neigh"

[1FinickyOne]

  On 9/24/2020 at 5:58 AM, bendejo said:

I told her it was not a good idea.

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Just another 'neigh sayer.' 

 

Did it work? 

[DUNROAMIN]

Be careful with some drugs, sometimes not good to crush pill as they have special coating for ease into stomach. Best to research on google for specific problem and drugs.

[bendejo]

  On 9/25/2020 at 1:41 AM, kenk24 said:

Just another 'neigh sayer.' 

 

Did it work? 

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It made her hoarse.

 

 

[faraday]

  On 9/25/2020 at 1:48 AM, bendejo said:

It made her hoarse.

 

 

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C'mon mate, rein it in.

[Guderian]

Is this a wind-up, why not just ask if it's OK to feed dogs dark chocolate since people like it?

Stupid is as stupid does.

[Max69xl]

  On 9/24/2020 at 8:23 AM, cleopatra2 said:

The problem with giving human medication to dogs or other animals is the presence of other ingredients. Flavouring , preservatives. 

A common addition in human medicine that would be toxic to animals is Xyliton.

 

 

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Don't forget that antibiotics and other meds for humans are proportional to weight. Compare for example a person that weighs 60-80kg to a 8kg dog. Everyone doesn't have a great dane in the back yard. 

[Speedhump]

  On 9/24/2020 at 6:05 AM, Crossy said:

I wouldn't, it's not as if vets are terribly expensive here.

 

As to giving him the pills - 

 

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Drugs for animals can be expensive from a vet. If they're needed long term it's significant. Human remedies are sometimes effective and far cheaper, but close investigation must be made first for side effects, effectiveness and obviously correct dosage. Antihistamines for pruritus are a good example, safe in correct dosage but only some will be effective for dogs. Obviously better to find and eradicate the cause (usually an allergy of some sort but sometimes very difficult).