webfact Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 Trump deserves 'fair chance' to challenge subpoena for tax returns - filing By Jonathan Stempel FILE PHOTO: U.S. President Donald Trump speaks to reporters during a news conference in the Brady Press Briefing Room at the White House in Washington, U.S., September 23, 2020. REUTERS/Tom Brenner NEW YORK (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump made a final push to keep his tax returns away from Manhattan's top prosecutor, saying he deserves a "fair chance" to show a subpoena for the returns was overbroad and issued in bad faith, according to a court filing on Thursday. Trump's lawyers made the filing with the federal appeals court in Manhattan. That court will hear oral arguments on Friday over whether Manhattan District Attorney Cyrus Vance can enforce a grand jury subpoena to Trump's accounting firm Mazars USA for eight years of his corporate and personal tax returns for a criminal probe. Trump is appealing U.S. District Judge Victor Marrero's Aug. 20 ruling to enforce the subpoena, following an unsuccessful effort this year to persuade the U.S. Supreme Court he was immune from criminal probes while in the White House. Vance is probing Trump and his businesses, which include the Trump Organization. The probe began after news that Trump's former lawyer and fixer Michael Cohen made hush money payments before the 2016 election to keep two women quiet about claimed sexual encounters with Trump, which the president denies. Vance has signaled the probe has a broader scope. He has said in court filings he might have grounds to investigate Trump and his businesses for tax fraud, insurance fraud and falsifying business records, and the probe also related to reports of possible bank fraud. But Trump's lawyers said the probe "is about the Cohen payments," and accused Vance of making it seem the grand jury was examining reported allegations about Trump and his businesses "no matter how baseless, how old, or how far beyond the District Attorney’s compass." They also said "fever pitch" tensions between Vance and the Trump Organization made Trump's allegations even more plausible. Vance's "apparent trepidation at having to defend this subpoena on the merits is not a basis for denying the President a fair chance to test its legality," Trump's lawyers wrote. All three judges on the appeals court panel were appointed by Democratic presidents, as was Marrero. Vance is also a Democrat, while Trump is a Republican. Trump could appeal again to the Supreme Court if he loses. Vance's probe is separate from New York Attorney General Letitia James' civil investigation into whether Trump and the Trump Organization overstated the value of some assets to obtain loans and tax benefits. A New York state judge on Wednesday ordered Trump's son Eric, a Trump Organization executive vice president, to answer questions under oath in that probe by Oct. 7. (Reporting by Jonathan Stempel in New York; Editing by Chizu Nomiyama and David Gregorio) -- © Copyright Reuters 2020-09-25 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Matzzon Posted September 24, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 24, 2020 (edited) It´s ridiculous! The guy has been fighting a simple thing like showing his tax returns for years. Clearly also showing that there is a lot to hide in those. Edited September 24, 2020 by Matzzon 16 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tug Posted September 24, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 24, 2020 More trump distraction he’s been hiding them for years trump SHALL obey the law enough of this clown show 12 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted September 25, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 25, 2020 Putting aside the legal arguments Trump made a campaign promise to release his taxes. 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post J Town Posted September 25, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 25, 2020 You have to admit, politics aside, anyone trying this hard to hide so many things to avoid jail is not a very smooth criminal. 10 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post spidermike007 Posted September 25, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 25, 2020 It is likely that the only ones with more skeletons in their closets, are Papuan Highlander cannibals. Why such fear? What is he hiding? It is likely he is hiding serial felonious tax evasion and bank fraud. We can only dream of a long prison sentence for Trump, once he is unceremoniously ushered out of the very white house come January. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post xylophone Posted September 25, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 25, 2020 8 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: Putting aside the legal arguments Trump made a campaign promise to release his taxes. Ah, using the words "Trump" and "made a promise" in the same sentence is one hell of an oxymoron. Since when has anything been "straight" and clean with this five times bankrupted crook, who used funds destined for charities to pay his own campaign bills. He couldn't lie straight in bed. 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post cjinchiangrai Posted September 25, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 25, 2020 Just a delaying tactic to hide the Russian money. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kelsall Posted September 25, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 25, 2020 His returns are squeaky clean. If they were not, he'd have been prosecuted by the feds long ago. This could well be the ultimate Trump troll! ???? The darling of the Trump-haters, Rachel Maddow, got ahold of one of his returns a while back. The verdict: Except for the numbers being quite large, there was nothing out of the ordinary. 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susco Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Kelsall said: His returns are squeaky clean. If they were not, he'd have been prosecuted by the feds long ago. You mean they were released to the feds. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wwest5829 Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 The Donald will have a, "fair chance" to defend in a court of law ... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post wwest5829 Posted September 25, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Kelsall said: His returns are squeaky clean. If they were not, he'd have been prosecuted by the feds long ago. This could well be the ultimate Trump troll! ???? The darling of the Trump-haters, Rachel Maddow, got ahold of one of his returns a while back. The verdict: Except for the numbers being quite large, there was nothing out of the ordinary. Then, no problem ... in fact it would support his narrative of being hounded unfairly. No need then to have refused to release them like all others having served as POTUS. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wwest5829 Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 11 hours ago, Tug said: More trump distraction he’s been hiding them for years trump SHALL obey the law enough of this clown show Point some to be going far over the heads of some ... if you have money, "justice" in the USA works far differently than if you are working middle class ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earlinclaifornia Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 2 hours ago, Kelsall said: His returns are squeaky clean. If they were not, he'd have been prosecuted by the feds long ago. This could well be the ultimate Trump troll! ???? The darling of the Trump-haters, Rachel Maddow, got ahold of one of his returns a while back. The verdict: Except for the numbers being quite large, there was nothing out of the ordinary. I debunked this same posting long ago. You are really a bit tiring to be kind. Now you seem tired always trying to support this fraud. Hopefully this will soon be the ending of a long tiring daily dribble of undying supporting posts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sujo Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 3 hours ago, Kelsall said: His returns are squeaky clean. If they were not, he'd have been prosecuted by the feds long ago. This could well be the ultimate Trump troll! ???? The darling of the Trump-haters, Rachel Maddow, got ahold of one of his returns a while back. The verdict: Except for the numbers being quite large, there was nothing out of the ordinary. Alternative facts? Maddow never had his tax return. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moe666 Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 Trump has been lying and cheating for years, he has cheated the contractors who work for him, he has cheated the people who sold him merchandise, cheated the people who have worked for him( one lady took him to court for past wages and won) and he has cheated the City of New York and the State of New York. The people who enable him and support him fall into the same level of life Loser 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Town Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, Sujo said: Alternative facts? Maddow never had his tax return. Actually, she did get a copy of his 2005 returns. He may have lied about the values of his properties, but I believe statute of limitations makes the 2005 return moot. The last six or so years that New York Federal Courts have their hands on - THAT'S a horse of a different color. One of the prosecutors let it slip a little that there may be fraud charges coming from them. And now poor little Eric has been told he will have to come before a grand jury by 7 Oct. The noose is slowly but surely tightening on the tangerine sack of sins. Lindsey Graham was recently on Fox and told Donald Jr to plead the 5th when it's his turn. Not a lot of positive feedback from THAT exchange! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Town Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 7 minutes ago, moe666 said: Trump has been lying and cheating for years, he has cheated the contractors who work for him, he has cheated the people who sold him merchandise, cheated the people who have worked for him( one lady took him to court for past wages and won) and he has cheated the City of New York and the State of New York. The people who enable him and support him fall into the same level of life Loser He has also cheated his family. Apparently Melania (aka The Third Lady) is just as bad as he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 14 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: Putting aside the legal arguments Trump made a campaign promise to release his taxes. Wasn't this just locker-room-talk? Or was that the other thing? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sujo Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 Trump deserves a fair chance to challenge releasing tax returns. what, saying he will do it, then failing at the supreme court isnt enough chance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Credo Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 2 hours ago, Sujo said: Trump deserves a fair chance to challenge releasing tax returns. what, saying he will do it, then failing at the supreme court isnt enough chance? The Supreme Court generally handles cases that are of a Constitutional nature. If it does not require an interpretation of the constitution, they are likely to reject it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plentyofnuttin Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 Appeals Court signals it’s out of patience with fight over President Trump’s taxes, calling his claims ‘highly contrived’ https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/ny-appeals-court-vance-trump-taxes-20200925-bqvnude2cnajhoc5mpu2bchalq-story.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 On 9/25/2020 at 9:22 AM, Tug said: More trump distraction he’s been hiding them for years trump SHALL obey the law enough of this clown show Especially since he's told all US citizens and the world a million times 'I am your president of law and order'. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plentyofnuttin Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 15 hours ago, Credo said: The Supreme Court generally handles cases that are of a Constitutional nature. If it does not require an interpretation of the constitution, they are likely to reject it. Well, Trump was claiming a Constitutional issue. The Supreme Court rejected that and sent the back to the state court system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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