EU won't accept Britain going back on Brexit deal, Germany's Roth says - magazine

[snoop1130]

EU won't accept Britain going back on Brexit deal, Germany's Roth says - magazine

 

FILE PHOTO: German Minister of State for Europe at the Federal Foreign Office, Michael Roth gives a news conference after the General Affairs Council at the European Council Headquarters in Brussels, Belgium, September 22, 2020. Aris Oikonomou/Pool via REUTERS

 

BERLIN (Reuters) - Germany's Europe Minister Michael Roth has written an open letter to the British government saying that the European Union cannot and will not accept London questioning the Brexit agreement signed nine months ago.

 

"The British internal market bill would gravely violate key parts of the Withdrawal Agreement," Roth said in the letter published in Der Spiegel on Tuesday.

 

"The Withdrawal Agreement, which is after all an international treaty, was only negotiated and signed nine months ago and you're already throwing it into question again? The EU cannot and will not accept this," he added.

 

Roth said a fair deal would be possible if both Britain and the EU showed willingness to compromise but added that the EU was well prepared if it came to a no-deal Brexit.

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2020-09-29

 

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[Loiner]

The EU will have to accept that Britain has already left. They don’t get a say on the Internal Markets Bill. 

[twocatsmac]

They don’t like it up em ????????

[from the home of CC]

world - take note (as history has a way of repeating itself)

[mfd101]

26 minutes ago, Loiner said:

The EU will have to accept that Britain has already left. They don’t get a say on the Internal Markets Bill. 

Britain's 'internal' bill violates the terms of an international treaty Britain signed only a few months ago ...

 

Well, golly, doesn't matter, let's do that more often!

[fishtank]

Quote

EU won't accept Britain going back on Brexit deal

Of course they don't.

Why should they?

Once the world realises that UK cannot be trusted who would want to make any deal with bungling boris and co.?

Edited September 29, 2020 by fishtank

[nobodysfriend]

There will be no business at all if one of the involved parties has proven to be unreliable and not trustworthy .

Britain is just hurting it's own reputation and it's possible future relations with european countries .

A massive ' loss of face ' ... but who cares ...?

Edited September 30, 2020 by nobodysfriend

[Surelynot]

Johnson, the Tories and Brexiteers are destroying this once proud nation......the economy is shutting down, trade agreements will be reneged upon....we have already lost our standing in the world....how sad.

[Sydebolle]

........ Germany's Europe Minister ......... says it all. 

What is the opinion of the French Europe Minister, the Italian Europe Minister and the British Europe Minister? 

Good luck to Europe, honestly! 

[bannork]

The Conservative Party, party of no law and disorder. 

What a shambles 

[mfd101]

Populism looks much the same everywhere, UK, US, many democracies and most authoritarian regimes ... no clear policy direction, no ability to address underlying issues (poverty, education, health ... ), constant about-face depending on the political weather on the day.

 

In sum, lack of decent leadership - not to favour the favoured friends but to take the country as a whole forward.

[Surelynot]

Just now, mfd101 said:

Populism looks much the same everywhere, UK, US, many democracies and most authoritarian regimes ... no clear policy direction, no ability to address underlying issues (poverty, education, health ... ), constant about-face depending on the political weather on the day.

 

In sum, lack of decent leadership - not to favour the favoured friends but to take the country as a whole forward.

Spot on...a total lack of any principled approach.....even if you don't agree with the principles at least you know what you may be voting for or against.

[Jack Mountain]

Brittain takes the lead from France in unreliability ...

[nauseus]

2 hours ago, Surelynot said:

Johnson, the Tories and Brexiteers are destroying this once proud nation......the economy is shutting down, trade agreements will be reneged upon....we have already lost our standing in the world....how sad.

No destruction pre Johnson then? What a crass statement. 

[herfiehandbag]

The EU interpreted certain aspects of the withdrawal agreement ( those dealing with Northern Ireland) as allowing them to interfere in trade within the UK. That was not the intention of the agreement.

 

They openly considered using the threat of imposing such sanctions (on internal UK trade) as leverage in attempts to skew any post withdrawal trade deal in their favour.

 

The Internal Markets Bill is intended to counter that.

 

Completely unreasonable! The UK will not do what we told them to do!

 

A familiar refrain from German politicians!

Edited September 30, 2020 by herfiehandbag

[luckyluke]

14 hours ago, mfd101 said:

Britain's 'internal' bill violates the terms of an international treaty Britain signed only a few months ago ...

 

Well, golly, doesn't matter, let's do that more often!

I don't see a big deal the U.K. "violate" the terms of a treaty.

 

Of course  the U.K. must be conscious/agree this can also occur by the countries which have, or will have, an agreement/treaty with the U.K. out of the E.U.. 

[puipuitom]

18 hours ago, Loiner said:

The EU will have to accept that Britain has already left. They don’t get a say on the Internal Markets Bill. 

When the British ( or English) want to conclude a deal with the EU, then they have to think also of the demands of the other side. It is no longer that the British can dictate, and.. if the other side humbly accepts, they MAYBE will push a few other crumbs off the table... It is no longer as the Anglo-Irish Treaty in 1921.

But in fact, everybody could have known this already for a couple of years. The British are so overwhelmingly with their minds in the 19th century, the times of Kitchener, Gordon, Cecil Rhodes , no compromise from that side was, is and will stay impossible.

So face it... 1 Jan 2021 a HARD Brexit = Schengen visa, international driver's licence and insurances + WTO "third party" import duty for all goods into the EU.

Plus: the world knows now the value of a British signature: not even worth the ink used to sign.

Edited September 30, 2020 by puipuitom

[Loiner]

30 minutes ago, puipuitom said:

When the British ( or English) want to conclude a deal with the EU, then they have to think also of the demands of the other side. It is no longer that the British can dictate, and.. if the other side humbly accepts, they MAYBE will push a few other crumbs off the table... It is no longer as the Anglo-Irish Treaty in 1921.

But in fact, everybody could have known this already for a couple of years. The British are so overwhelmingly with their minds in the 19th century, the times of Kitchener, Gordon, Cecil Rhodes , no compromise from that side was, is and will stay impossible.

So face it... 1 Jan 2021 a HARD Brexit = Schengen visa, international driver's licence and insurances + WTO "third party" import duty for all goods into the EU.

Plus: the world knows now the value of a British signature: not even worth the ink used to sign.

We had a deal and the EU began to cheat again, even threatening to block food imports to Northern Island. The IMB sorts that out, and whether the EU humbly accepts it or not really does not matter to the UK. Our internal borders, our rules.

Bring on whatever else you want to ant about and threaten.

The rest of the world does not care about what goes on with our internal borders and your EU trickery.

[JonnyF]

58 minutes ago, puipuitom said:

Plus: the world knows now the value of a British signature: not even worth the ink used to sign.

Not unlike the EU then.

 

 

Look, we don't care about the EU threats. We've been hearing it for 4 years. Empty promises on trade deals as well. We're sick of them, let's just get out and sort out a trade deal later if/when they come to their senses and drop the unrealistic demands for continued control over us.

[luckyluke]

17 minutes ago, Loiner said:

The rest of the world does not care about what goes on with our internal borders and your EU trickery.

 

I think you are right here.

 

The "world' don't care about borders, broken agreements, trickeries or whatever.

 

It will continue, or start business, with the E.U. or/and the U.K., if it suits them ( if they expect some profit in it ).

[welovesundaysatspace]

14 minutes ago, Loiner said:

We had a deal and the EU began to cheat again, even threatening to block food imports to Northern Island. The IMB sorts that out, and whether the EU humbly accepts it or not really does not matter to the UK. Our internal borders, our rules.

Too bad that that’s not how international law works, so you will eventually get a bloody nose (again) and no one will give a damn about how you justify breaching contracts. You’re just shooting yourself in the foot again, and we can all have a good laugh about it. 

 

 

[JonnyF]

6 minutes ago, luckyluke said:

 

I think you are right here.

 

The "world' don't care about borders, broken agreements, trickeries or whatever.

 

It will continue, or start business, with the E.U. or/and the U.K., if it suits them ( if they expect some profit in it ).

Exactly.

 

Look at the human abuses in China and they seem to do a fair bit of trade around the world last time I checked. The coup in Thailand, the screwing over of the Australian mining company. Yet I don't see Thailand being shunned by the global community. The EU has broken plenty of laws, even it's own when it suits.

 

Tidying up an ambiguity/contradiction in a treaty that the EU planned to exploit for their own nefarious purposes is hardly going to have the rest of the world refusing to trade with us. It's not even a ripple in the grand scheme of things. They'll trade if it's profitable, as simple as that. Just more faux outrage from the Remainers. ????

[bodga]

8 hours ago, Surelynot said:

this once proud nation

not  according to the blm brigade

[luckyluke]

3 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Just more faux outrage from the Remainers. ????

 

I try to understand the Remainers, they seems to not want to accept that 52% will decide about the future of 100%, but that's the way it is with a simple majority.

 

Thus they present the future of the U.K. as somber and all negative.

To be honest I think the Brexiters here present the future of the U.K. as a bit too positive/optimist as well.

But time will tell.

 

However not an easy job for the U.K. government next year :

 

proving that the Leavers made the right decision;

proving the Remainers that they made the wrong choice.

 

This can only be reached with concrete decisions/facts which all can see and experienced.

[86Tiger]

6 hours ago, mfd101 said:

Populism looks much the same everywhere, UK, US, many democracies and most authoritarian regimes ... no clear policy direction, no ability to address underlying issues (poverty, education, health ... ), constant about-face depending on the political weather on the day.

 

In sum, lack of decent leadership - not to favour the favoured friends but to take the country as a whole forward.

Yes, if there were only a class of people that could take control and force on the people what is best, for their own good of course.  The entire world could live in harmony and prosperity.

 

But alas, there is always a pesky little thing called self determination and freedom that always thwarts the common good.

[Mavideol]

On 9/29/2020 at 5:19 PM, snoop1130 said:

The Withdrawal Agreement, which is after all an international treaty, was only negotiated and signed nine months ago and you're already throwing it into question again?

and when it was signed/agreed upon BJ (the head of UK government) and his gang were all happy jumping around claiming it was a great deal for both sides.... what happen, is BJ still head of government or is it a different BoJo 555

[Mavideol]

6 hours ago, luckyluke said:

I don't see a big deal the U.K. "violate" the terms of a treaty.

 

Of course  the U.K. must be conscious/agree this can also occur by the countries which have, or will have, an agreement/treaty with the U.K. out of the E.U.. 

correct, as the old saying goes..... what goes around comes around !!! just wonder or looking forward to see how the Tories/brexiters will react when that happen, it will be funny

[Mavideol]

1 hour ago, Loiner said:

We had a deal and the EU began to cheat again, even threatening to block food imports to Northern Island. The IMB sorts that out, and whether the EU humbly accepts it or not really does not matter to the UK. Our internal borders, our rules.

Bring on whatever else you want to ant about and threaten.

The rest of the world does not care about what goes on with our internal borders and your EU trickery.

always 2 sides to a story, it appears you chose the wrong one, be careful with what you wish for

[Mavideol]

1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

Not unlike the EU then.

 

 

Look, we don't care about the EU threats. We've been hearing it for 4 years. Empty promises on trade deals as well. We're sick of them, let's just get out and sort out a trade deal later if/when they come to their senses and drop the unrealistic demands for continued control over us.

don't you have anything better/more recent to post a fact, dated December 2 of  2019 you must be desperate 555

[Loiner]

2 minutes ago, Mavideol said:

always 2 sides to a story, it appears you chose the wrong one, be careful with what you wish for

And this advice coming from the other side of the 2 sides is supposed to be from the right one? I'm supremely confident that I am right, so will be quite happy with the results of my wishes.