EU won't accept Britain going back on Brexit deal, Germany's Roth says - magazine

[david555]

Just now, vogie said:

Brilliant,????????. The sniping the UK is receiving from our Euro friends is quite astounding, we make our own laws now and the EU don't like, one of the flock has wandered into the next field and they don't like it. It reminds of the song by Jilted John, 

 

"Oh, she is cruel and heartless

To pack me for Gordon
Just 'cause he's better looking than me
Just 'cause he's cool and trendy

But I know he's a moron, Gordon is a moron
Gordon is a moron, Gordon is a moron"

 

So you see Gordon is not a moron, but the jilted lover calls him names to make himself feel better.????

 

 

First of all I don't now who  the F$%^&ck is Gordon …

 

 Second make your own laws, follow them your own way …….but above all ….. only on your Island …!! ???? 

[Surelynot]

15 hours ago, Thingamabob said:

Good to see Brits have re-grown a pair, at last.

Sadly this is where they grew.....

[herfiehandbag]

25 minutes ago, david555 said:

First of all I don't now who  the F$%^&ck is Gordon …

 

 Second make your own laws, follow them your own way …….but above all ….. only on your Island …!! ???? 

That is exactly what we want to do.

The EU is however, insisting that it has the right to do so.

Edited October 1, 2020 by herfiehandbag

[david555]

5 minutes ago, herfiehandbag said:

That is exactly what we want to do.

The EU is however, insisting that it has the right to do so.

ONLY if you wish to have  all those  things you like ……???? ONLY if those ????…...else you are a free independent third country for us...

 

As we do not interfere with Zimbabwe's doing's neither ….????

Edited October 1, 2020 by david555

[Kwasaki]

2 hours ago, david555 said:

So why in heaven's name we would deal with this kind  U.K. goverment ....?

A NO is sufficient answer to it .

Good get out the way so UK can get on with it. 

EU will be and is already a mess with a Dictator country in charge IMHO glad UK is out. 

 

[david555]

Just now, Kwasaki said:

Good get out the way so UK can get on with it. 

EU will be and is already a mess with a Dictator country in charge IMHO glad UK is out. 

 

We are not in your way ….as you are out already ….forgot? …..just call your Lord Frost from the negotiation table away and it's done... All yours 

 

What is holding you ?????

[billd766]

11 hours ago, NeoDinosaw said:

 

Could you please tell us all what percentage the Remainers got and what percentage the couldn't be bothered to vote was.

 

If yyou are going to state one part then to be unbiased you need to quote ALL the figures.

 

The remainers got even less of a percentage than those who voted to leave,

 

Just to help you out here is a link.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Results_of_the_2016_United_Kingdom_European_Union_membership_referendum

 

Results

	Votes	%
Leave	17,410,742	51.89%
Remain	16,141,241	48.11%
Valid votes	33,551,983	99.92%
Invalid or blank votes	25,359	0.08%
Total votes	33,577,342	100.00%
Registered voters/turnout	46,500,001	72.2

[86Tiger]

How is it you Brits and Euros were able to get along as long as you did?

 

Last 5 pages of this thread read like a argument between an old married man and woman:  "Yes I will!", "No you won't!"

 

 

May as well face the facts, UK is gone and can/will do as they damn well please whether you like what they do or not.

 

 

[david555]

7 minutes ago, 86Tiger said:

How is it you Brits and Euros were able to get along as long as you did?

 

Last 5 pages of this thread read like a argument between an old married man and woman:  "Yes I will!", "No you won't!"

 

 

May as well face the facts, UK is gone and can/will do as they damn well please whether you like what they do or not.

 

 

Right ! ????..... but let them get out the way , and get on their island , arrange there their things at their wish ….always trying to get E.U. things done at their way ...

 

Looks like  another Brit blaming kettle ….????

Edited October 1, 2020 by david555

[Laughing Gravy]

1 hour ago, 86Tiger said:

How is it you Brits and Euros were able to get along as long as you did?

We never did that has always been the issue. Well with the EU which is not Europe, although they think they are.

 

That is the problem.

Edited October 1, 2020 by Laughing Gravy

[CG1 Blue]

7 hours ago, herfiehandbag said:

If the UK, outside the EU, is the dead duck floating gently away into economic and international obscurity that so many seem to gleefully predict, why are so many EU enthusiasts here so concerned about it?

 

Could it possibly be that they are wondering how to replace the money they will lose?

 

Could it be because they are not keen on having a competitive economy nearby?

 

Could it be because the great project is threatened?

 

Could it be through an altruistic concern for our future?

 

Just an idle thought.

Stockholm Syndrome? 

 

[david555]

19 minutes ago, Laughing Gravy said:

We never did that has always been the issue. Well with the EU which is not Europe, although they think they are.

 

That is the problem.

 "the EU which is not Europe, although they think they are."

 

 

 

Well using the conservatives opinion of a majority....????  we would be one with our 27 ones a majority on 44 country's… ????????

https://www.worldometers.info/geography/how-many-countries-in-europe/

There are 44 countries in Europe today, according to the United Nations. The full list is shown in the table below, with current population and subregion (based on the United Nations official statistics).

[herfiehandbag]

28 minutes ago, david555 said:

 "the EU which is not Europe, although they think they are."

 

 

 

Well using the conservatives opinion of a majority....????  we would be one with our 27 ones a majority on 44 country's… ????????

https://www.worldometers.info/geography/how-many-countries-in-europe/

There are 44 countries in Europe today, according to the United Nations. The full list is shown in the table below, with current population and subregion (based on the United Nations official statistics).

Absolutely, 27 nations which speak with one voice; Germany's!

[david555]

 (See you in court brexiteers ...... ????  E.C.J. court !...????  )

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/brexit/

By James Crisp
1 Oct 2020, 10:05am

Brussels launches EU lawsuit against UK over Brexit treaty breaches 

 

Britain missed EU deadline to cut provisions in the Internal Market Bill that override the Withdrawal Agreement 

The European Commission today launched legal action against the United Kingdom, after MPs passed the Internal Market Bill, which overrides parts of the Brexit divorce treaty. 

Brussels had set Britain an end of month deadline to withdraw clauses in the Bill relating to Northern Ireland, which it said broke the Withdrawal Agreement and international law. 
 

[Surelynot]

4 hours ago, 86Tiger said:

How is it you Brits and Euros were able to get along as long as you did?

 

Last 5 pages of this thread read like a argument between an old married man and woman:  "Yes I will!", "No you won't!"

 

 

May as well face the facts, UK is gone and can/will do as they damn well please whether you like what they do or not.

 

 

Forty years of Murdoch propaganda and the likes of third rate journalists (Johnson et al) putting out clickbait to con the public.

[3NUMBAS]

so the EU , is taking us to their puppet so called 'court' which is just a farce... the rancid corrupt criminal repugnant Reich is absolutely desperate, we just need ignore them, we owe them nil, in fact they owe us. we need to block them from our fishing waters too, what gives them the right to interfere in our internal matters?????

 

Lord Falconer, the remain backing Labour QC has said the EU can do what it wants , but it has no power to enforce any action against our government.

[david555]

End Quote out of former article https://www.telegraph.co.uk/brexit/

 

"The lawsuit begins a lengthy process that could ultimately end in the European Court of Justice in Luxembourg. The EU’s top court could then impose hefty, daily fines until the law was changed."  

[3NUMBAS]

no person can judge a case in which he or she is party or in which he/she has an interest.

Also known as:

• nemo judex in sua causa; or
• nemo debet esse judex in propria causa.

We have no reason to recognize that court. They have already shown themselves to have done that before and are therefore corrupt.

[Surelynot]

2 minutes ago, david555 said:

End Quote out of former article https://www.telegraph.co.uk/brexit/

 

"The lawsuit begins a lengthy process that could ultimately end in the European Court of Justice in Luxembourg. The EU’s top court could then impose hefty, daily fines until the law was changed."  

I have a feeling the Johnson approach to this will be to refuse to pay...dragging the country further into the mire.

[Mavideol]

4 minutes ago, 3NUMBAS said:

no person can judge a case in which he or she is party or in which he/she has an interest.

Also known as:

• nemo judex in sua causa; or
• nemo debet esse judex in propria causa.

We have no reason to recognize that court. They have already shown themselves to have done that before and are therefore corrupt.

no problem, will move it to ICA/ICC or PCA.... but all located within the EU (Paris and La Hague) make your pick

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permanent_Court_of_Arbitration

Edited October 1, 2020 by Mavideol

[david555]

15 minutes ago, 3NUMBAS said:

no person can judge a case in which he or she is party or in which he/she has an interest.

Also known as:

• nemo judex in sua causa; or
• nemo debet esse judex in propria causa.

We have no reason to recognize that court. They have already shown themselves to have done that before and are therefore corrupt.

Already ECJ has  ruled in a case in U.K. favor against E.U. ….. so there goes your just typed  defense to the sewer …...

Edited October 1, 2020 by david555

[david555]

Just now, Surelynot said:

I have a feeling the Johnson approach to this will be to refuse to pay...dragging the country further into the mire.

I don't think it shall come that far …… no Boris anymore in charge by that time 

Edited October 1, 2020 by david555

[3NUMBAS]

 

The EU wallahs can huff and puff to their hearts content.  They have negotiated in bad faith with all their demands and threats.  Perhaps they should be reminded of the times they have broken treaties an it suits them.

 

Even Theresa May acknowledged in her Chequers White Paper that Parliament would still retain sovereignty and the right to legislate or not legislate contrary to the UK's International obligations. 

 

[bannork]

News about the fishing dispute.

Boris has conceded and offered the EU 3 years continued fishing in UK waters whilst EU fishing rights are phased down.

He wants a deal with the EU to save his career. Expect more concessions soon 

[3NUMBAS]

The Political Declaration offered the prospect of a Canada plus FTA. That is why the UK passed the WA: To get to trade talks and conclude matters. However, once the UK passed the WA, the EU swiftly removed a Canada plus option and took an extreme and aggressive interpretation of the Protocol, in an effort to force the UK to adopt EU rules on matters such as state aid.

The EU betrayed the UK and has negotiated in bad faith. The EU has even threatened to stop food exports from GB to NI and impose tariffs between GB and NI; ie, the EU has threatened to chop up the UK for its own political convenience.

In the face of such aggression, what do former PMs (eg, Blair, Major and Treason) do when the government acts to protect the UK from the hostile position that the EU has adopted? Blame the UK. Is this some kind of joke?

All MPs have a moral responsibility to protect the UK from the extraordinarily hostile position that the EU has adopted. The Internal Market Bill must be approved

[Mavideol]

7 minutes ago, 3NUMBAS said:

 

The EU wallahs can huff and puff to their hearts content.  They have negotiated in bad faith with all their demands and threats.  Perhaps they should be reminded of the times they have broken treaties an it suits them.

 

Even Theresa May acknowledged in her Chequers White Paper that Parliament would still retain sovereignty and the right to legislate or not legislate contrary to the UK's International obligations. 

 

bad news for you....it's all a matter of opinion/interpretation

[david555]

2 minutes ago, 3NUMBAS said:

The Political Declaration offered the prospect of a Canada plus FTA. That is why the UK passed the WA: To get to trade talks and conclude matters. However, once the UK passed the WA, the EU swiftly removed a Canada plus option and took an extreme and aggressive interpretation of the Protocol, in an effort to force the UK to adopt EU rules on matters such as state aid.

The EU betrayed the UK and has negotiated in bad faith. The EU has even threatened to stop food exports from GB to NI and impose tariffs between GB and NI; ie, the EU has threatened to chop up the UK for its own political convenience.

In the face of such aggression, what do former PMs (eg, Blair, Major and Treason) do when the government acts to protect the UK from the hostile position that the EU has adopted? Blame the UK. Is this some kind of joke?

All MPs have a moral responsibility to protect the UK from the extraordinarily hostile position that the EU has adopted. The Internal Market Bill must be approved

keep your breath for the court I would say , as it gone by anyway a lengthy case...….. give the U.K. time enough to think abut how repairing the by Boris damage done

Edited October 1, 2020 by david555

[welovesundaysatspace]

5 minutes ago, 3NUMBAS said:

 

The EU wallahs can huff and puff to their hearts content. 

4 replies within 20 minutes — I’m wondering who’s huffing and puffing ???? 

 

5 minutes ago, 3NUMBAS said:

 

Even Theresa May acknowledged in her Chequers White Paper that Parliament would still retain sovereignty and the right to legislate or not legislate contrary to the UK's International obligations. 

And when parliament uses its sovereignty to break a contract, there will be repercussions. Whether you like it or not. 

[3NUMBAS]

Infringement proceedings take a long time to progress and are a relatively common tool used by the European Commission - there were around 800 open cases against member states last year alone.

so there you go up to their old tricks as usual

[Logosone]

5 hours ago, 86Tiger said:

May as well face the facts, UK is gone and can/will do as they damn well please whether you like what they do or not.

 

 

Oh no they won't!

 

If they want to sell their Brit-trash in our glorious European Union they will have to kiss our ring.

 

Our market. Our rules.