EU tells Britain to make up its mind as Brexit deal 'within reach'

[Foghorn]

On 10/22/2020 at 2:38 PM, RayC said:

Most MEPs and UK MEPs are honest and, among the few that aren't,  I doubt that there are any more 'bad apples' in Brussels compared to Westminster.

Most are corrupt, it should be a death penalty and confiscation of all assets for all civil servants , they wouldn’t do it again

[luckyluke]

7 hours ago, transam said:

the future U.S. of G...

Wonder if this will be of any significance for the man in the street of Belgium. 

Edited October 24, 2020 by luckyluke

[Loiner]

16 minutes ago, luckyluke said:

Wonder if this will be of any significance for the man in the street of Belgium. 

 

From the post we have seen here, I don't think the man in the street of Belgium has any idea of what goes on around him anyway. This one is oblivious to anything anyway. Can't he even find his way to the Belgian Social Security office. Is it really so good for everybody?

https://borgenproject.org/homelessness-in-belgium/ 

[Rimmer]

An inflammatory post has been removed

[luckyluke]

2 minutes ago, Loiner said:

Is it really so good for everybody?

 

Good for everybody is impossible to archive,

plus it is a very relative concept.

So, I am afraid Belgium isn't different than any other country worldwide in that matter.

 

And as written in the article, many of the homeless are migrants.

 

But what I, and many others, just want is that our live continue to be like it was before the E.U., like it is now as being a member of the U.E.,

and maybe in the future a member of the U.S.G..

 

 

[RayC]

1 hour ago, Loiner said:

 

From the post we have seen here, I don't think the man in the street of Belgium has any idea of what goes on around him anyway. This one is oblivious to anything anyway. Can't he even find his way to the Belgian Social Security office. Is it really so good for everybody?

https://borgenproject.org/homelessness-in-belgium/ 

Johnson has eradicated homelessness from the streets of the UK, of course.

[nauseus]

On 10/23/2020 at 10:46 AM, Matzzon said:

I do not have any fellow EU members. Left that sinking world over 20 years ago. ???? 

However, you deserve an answer. Ok 1 million out of a population of close to 450 million EU citizens is of course much. However, due to the free work and free movement inside EU, they will have a greater chance to find new occupation by looking at a wider area.

When you look at UK the UK population with about 68 million citizens, and that there is losses already of over 750 000 jobs. That as well as a very high risk of close to a million more jobs to go away. Yeah, then I think you realize who draw the shorter stick in this game. ????

 

You are confusing the effects of Brexit with those of the WuFlu and this error makes your claims and numbers even more ridiculous than they already are . 

[nauseus]

On 10/22/2020 at 4:16 PM, puipuitom said:

When you want to do business with the EU , it must be according the laws of the EU, and when disputes, under the courts of the EU. As with any country. Only the British still think, Britannia does not only rule the waves, but also the land around it.

 

If that was true the EU would not be 'doing business' with anyone outside it.

[Rookiescot]

54 minutes ago, nauseus said:

 

You are confusing the effects of Brexit with those of the WuFlu and this error makes your claims and numbers even more ridiculous than they already are . 

We have the damage of Brexit on top of the damage inflicted by corona. 

[pixelaoffy]

On 10/24/2020 at 5:31 PM, RayC said:

Johnson has eradicated homelessness from the streets of the UK, of course.

No one . No gov can eridicate homelessness !  The Labour gov didn't in 13 years ! 'Homelessness' is related to dug users and many other factors ! The wet socialist s have no answers 

[nauseus]

19 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

We have the damage of Brexit on top of the damage inflicted by corona. 

 

Er, yes. 

[pixelaoffy]

20 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

We have the damage of Brexit on top of the damage inflicted by corona. 

We have the long term benefits of Brexit to come ! Free from the corrupt failed mafia EU 

[melvinmelvin]

1 hour ago, pixelaoffy said:

We have the long term benefits of Brexit to come ! Free from the corrupt failed mafia EU 

 

if this Free from the corrupt failed mafia EU is your best desciption of EU, properly reflected within your intellectual horizon,

I struggle to see coming brightness for UK if there are many like you around

 

not solicited, but still, can't resist offering a quote of one of Kumbel's Gruks:

 

My intellectual horizon is like a circle

with radius zero

that I call my point of view

 

enjoy today's roast

 

 

[7by7]

On 10/23/2020 at 4:39 AM, vogie said:

Do you care about the 1 million EU citizens that will lose their jobs if it's a 'no deal', it seems your intense dislike of the British over-rides your concern for the welfare of your fellow EU members.

 

Those who are at the most risk of losing their jobs in a no deal Brexit are British!

 

1.2 million jobs to be lost in Europe with no-deal Brexit

Quote

The UK, inevitably, would suffer the most with 500,000 job losses

 It seems your intense dislike of the EU overrides your concern for the welfare of your fellow British citizens!

 

BTW, re your new signature; there are four nations in the UK, not just three.

[7by7]

On 10/23/2020 at 3:29 PM, evadgib said:

If you weren't on so many iggy lists there would no doubt be a few more negative ones.

 

Welcome to mine ????

 

On 10/23/2020 at 4:32 PM, vogie said:

Yes on my iggy list too, bragging about how many likes he has been given by the usual suspects, you couldn't make it up, anybody that insults the UK will get a like from these people. Still birds of a feather.

 Typical response from you both and your fellow travellers.

 

Vogie, you made a mistake and accused a poster of saying something which he didn't. As usual you refused to accept that and made a fool of yourself in your attempts to deny it.

 

Now you have resorted to the ignore list option so beloved of you lot when you cannot refute arguments made by others!

[vogie]

16 minutes ago, 7by7 said:

 

Those who are at the most risk of losing their jobs in a no deal Brexit are British!

 

1.2 million jobs to be lost in Europe with no-deal Brexit

 It seems your intense dislike of the EU overrides your concern for the welfare of your fellow British citizens!

 

BTW, re your new signature; there are four nations in the UK, not just three.

Is this is 'baiting direct' you have had two baiting posts at me now, are you shocked that other posters have enough of you now and refuse to play your games. Making libelous remarks about my concern of my fellow British citizens is a total lie and IMO you have made it to fuel the fire. How you get away with your caustic posts is a total mystery to us all I'm sure, but you do, which gives you an unfare advantage over the rest of us, that is the reason I don't want to exchange dialogue with you. Have a lovely evening.

And btw I know how many nations there are, but failed to find the NI flag.

 

[7by7]

2 hours ago, pixelaoffy said:

We have the long term benefits of Brexit to come ! Free from the corrupt failed mafia EU 

 Another use of 'we' from someone living in Thailand!

 

You are, of course, entitled to your opinion; but don't talk about how we here in the UK will be effected by Brexit when you won't feel those effects yourself!

 

Unless you rely on income from the UK, when the drop in value of Sterling will effect you!

 

[7by7]

4 minutes ago, vogie said:

Is this is 'baiting direct' you have had two baiting posts at me now, are you shocked that other posters have enough of you now and refuse to play your games. Making libelous remarks about my concern of my fellow British citizens is a total lie and IMO you have made it to fuel the fire. How you get away with your caustic posts is a total mystery to us all I'm sure, but you do, which gives you an unfare advantage over the rest of us, that is the reason I don't want to exchange dialogue with you. Have a lovely evening.

And btw I know how many nations there are, but failed to find the NI flag.

 

 

Baiting? No, simply pointing out that the UK will suffer most from a no deal Brexit; using the same forecast that you did!

 

My turning your "it seems your intense dislike of the British over-rides your concern for the welfare of your fellow EU members" remark back on you is no more libellous than when you first made it 

 

BTW, have this one on me

[evadgib]

1 hour ago, 7by7 said:

 Another use of 'we' from someone living in Thailand!

 

You are, of course, entitled to your opinion; but don't talk about how we here in the UK will be effected by Brexit when you won't feel those effects yourself!

 

Unless you rely on income from the UK, when the drop in value of Sterling will effect you!

 

'On a Perch in Thailand' again 49?

Have you forgotten how it went last time?

(I was doing 'the laughing policeman' for more than a fortnight! ????)

 

[Rookiescot]

4 hours ago, pixelaoffy said:

We have the long term benefits of Brexit to come ! Free from the corrupt failed mafia EU 

Please list the fiscal benefits which Brexit will deliver.

I mean actual benefits, not just some tired slogan or buzzword. Give us links to costed estimates showing how the UK will be better off.

Blue passports (printed in Poland) and calls of sovereignty (an abstract entity) will not count. 

[3NUMBAS]

4 hours ago, pixelaoffy said:

No one . No gov can eridicate homelessness !  The Labour gov didn't in 13 years ! 'Homelessness' is related to dug users and many other factors ! The wet socialist s have no answers 

they re champagne socialists and live in ivory towers in islington so havent a clue about homeless .many beggers do very well on their income which exceeds a job salalary in the city

[3NUMBAS]

11 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

Please list the fiscal benefits which Brexit will deliver.

I mean actual benefits, not just some tired slogan or buzzword. Give us links to costed estimates showing how the UK will be better off.

Blue passports (printed in Poland) and calls of sovereignty (an abstract entity) will not count. 

vat on rated goods for the eu for a start which will not have to be paid upon exit

[7by7]

1 hour ago, evadgib said:

'On a Perch in Thailand' again 49?

Have you forgotten how it went last time?

(I was doing 'the laughing policeman' for more than a fortnight! ????)

 

 

Really? Good for you.

 

I'm amused every time I remember your numerous risible posts of 'news' which could only have come from QAnon. Such as humiliating yourself with your prediction of an event of global significance happening within walking distance of my front door!

[englishoak]

Sky still about to fall in for the usual lot I see, Keep up with the whining and bleating, not long to go now, just 65 days or so... 

Well Barmier is staying in London for a few more days so a few more headlines this week then itll trip over into the following week, around first week in November. Personally I think Boris and everyone else in Europe are awaiting the US election results. It is neither a coincidence or insignificant that negotiations were/are concluding around the same time as the US POTUS election. It should and will have an impact on stance by both the UK and EU if negotiations are still incomplete. 

 

A faster and free trade deal is more likely between the UK and the US if Trump wins than with Biden who has made it clear he is EU bias ....A Trump win would support a more inflexible stance by Boris in favour of US trade value and a Biden win the reverse and flavors the EU.

 

The Anglophere isnt done just quite yet methinks. 

 

All fascinating stuff.  

 

 

[david555]

6 hours ago, englishoak said:

Sky still about to fall in for the usual lot I see, Keep up with the whining and bleating, not long to go now, just 65 days or so... 

Well Barmier is staying in London for a few more days so a few more headlines this week then itll trip over into the following week, around first week in November. Personally I think Boris and everyone else in Europe are awaiting the US election results. It is neither a coincidence or insignificant that negotiations were/are concluding around the same time as the US POTUS election. It should and will have an impact on stance by both the UK and EU if negotiations are still incomplete. 

 

A faster and free trade deal is more likely between the UK and the US if Trump wins than with Biden who has made it clear he is EU bias ....A Trump win would support a more inflexible stance by Boris in favour of US trade value and a Biden win the reverse and flavors the EU.

 

The Anglophere isnt done just quite yet methinks. 

 

All fascinating stuff.  

 

 

Yeah that is what the newspaper printed ....he is afraid Biden could / would win ...and that one is not liking Boris's brexit ...hence no U.S - U..K. deal as the big Irish lobby  support the peace treaty which is endangered by Boris treaty breaking bill....

He is in trouble for now ...untill USA election result....

Edited October 26, 2020 by david555

[Rookiescot]

9 hours ago, 3NUMBAS said:

vat on rated goods for the eu for a start which will not have to be paid upon exit

What?

Please give an example.

[vogie]

9 hours ago, 3NUMBAS said:

vat on rated goods for the eu for a start which will not have to be paid upon exit

You are wasting your time, it has been explained to this poster time and time again, nothing sinks in.

[nauseus]

3 hours ago, Rookiescot said:

What?

Please give an example.

 

The EU takes a cut of VAT and customs duties in the UK, in addition to our main contributions. The EU also sets minimum VAT rates for all member states.

 

The EU took £5.8bn from VAT & duties paid by UK consumers on goods & services in 2018. As such an avid EU fan, I thought you might have known that.

 

https://facts4eu.org/news/2019_aug_eu_taxes#:~:text=The EU then takes a,“a complex statistical process”.&text=the total for the UK,tax year ended Apr 2019.

[Rookiescot]

2 hours ago, nauseus said:

 

The EU takes a cut of VAT and customs duties in the UK, in addition to our main contributions. The EU also sets minimum VAT rates for all member states.

 

The EU took £5.8bn from VAT & duties paid by UK consumers on goods & services in 2018. As such an avid EU fan, I thought you might have known that.

 

https://facts4eu.org/news/2019_aug_eu_taxes#:~:text=The EU then takes a,“a complex statistical process”.&text=the total for the UK,tax year ended Apr 2019.

Right I am with you now.

OK so we are looking at two possible scenarios for Brexit. Either a deal whereby we retain access to the single market or no deal.

If we get a deal then those VAT and customs duties will remain in place therefor resulting in no financial benefit from Brexit.

If on the other hand we leave with no deal then those payments will no longer be made to the EU. We will however have to make payments to the WTO. Then we will have to pay tariffs on all the stuff we get from the EU. So all in all no financial benefit from Brexit.

 

[RayC]

16 hours ago, 3NUMBAS said:

they re champagne socialists and live in ivory towers in islington so havent a clue about homeless .

 

You've got me - and I suspect many others who give a thought about the homeless - wrong with your stereotype: I don't much care for champagne. Socialist? In many ways, I'd like to plead 'Guilty', but no. Ivory Towers? I'm not living the high life, but doing ok. Islington? 'Wrong' side of the river.

 

Given that you're so clued up about 

 homelessness, why not post the solution here?

16 hours ago, 3NUMBAS said:

 

many beggers do very well on their income which exceeds a job salalary in the city

If you are serious, then I'm not sure if this comment is laughable or sad (probably both)