Quarantine Incoming, Yet Allow Massive Crowds of Protesters

[bwpage3]

This makes no sense at all, unless of course the quarantine is a financial ploy to put money in someone's pocket.

 

Why close the country off, yet allow 10,000's of protesters face to face?

 

 

 

 

[Salerno]

Because there's negligible Covid in Thailand.

[Peterw42]

I think you will find the protests are not a Government approved or encouraged activity, 

Its not "allowed" as such, that is why they have riot police, water cannons, a state of emergency and arrest people.

 

It appears that most of the protesters and the police are wearing masks and even social distancing.

 

[Berkshire]

2 hours ago, bwpage3 said:

This makes no sense at all, unless of course the quarantine is a financial ploy to put money in someone's pocket.

 

Why close the country off, yet allow 10,000's of protesters face to face?

 

It actually makes perfect sense.  Thailand has done well to control the spread of COVID to the point of having almost no community spread.  Most new COVID cases are coming from outside the country.  So it makes sense to limit incoming international travel because that's where the risks are. 

[JAFO]

2 hours ago, bwpage3 said:

Why close the country off, yet allow 10,000's of protesters face to face?

Well when you do not have the Covid virus infecting your population, there is probably no or very limited risk plus in general Thai folks tend to adhere to wearing a mask as its not a problem for them. However letting tourists back in increases the risk significantly, especially western folks as they have a huge tendency to believe that wearing a mask and social distancing does not apply to them.  

 

 

Edited October 28, 2020 by JAFO

[Scott]

Off-topic, baiting post reported and removed.

 

[robblok]

What a load of dribble, comparing the covid quarantine with protesters. It goes wrong on so many fronts that I think the OP is a bit frustrated.

 

1 there is minimal COVID in Thailand and the government wants to keep it, why import it

2 the protest are not something the government can control if it was up to them there would be no protests.

 

Plus many protesters wear mask and there is not much COVID in country. So the risk is low. While on the other hand COVID is rampant in the US and Europe. So taking those people in without quarantine is importing COVID.

[essox essox]

3 hours ago, bwpage3 said:

This makes no sense at all, unless of course the quarantine is a financial ploy to put money in someone's pocket.

 

Why close the country off, yet allow 10,000's of protesters face to face?

 

 

 

 

great question....who is going to answer it ???

[robblok]

1 hour ago, essox essox said:

great question....who is going to answer it ???

Everyone has already its a foolish question that would not have been asked if the OP had used his brain a bit more. He made several wrong assumptions.

 

1 the government does not want the protests (so its not government procedure but quarantine is)

2 There is almost no COVID in Thailand opening up to the US and Europe both places with huge amounts of case you only import it.

 

Its so easy to understand, only those with vested interest have a bit of a problem with this. Us who are here in relative safety without having to worry about other lockdowns like in Europe an the US think this is a sensible approuch.

 

The protests are often using masks and there is not much COVID in Thailand so the risk is low. IT would be different if we opened up to other countries without quarantine.

[essox essox]

55 minutes ago, robblok said:

Everyone has already its a foolish question that would not have been asked if the OP had used his brain a bit more. He made several wrong assumptions.

 

1 the government does not want the protests (so its not government procedure but quarantine is)

2 There is almost no COVID in Thailand opening up to the US and Europe both places with huge amounts of case you only import it.

 

Its so easy to understand, only those with vested interest have a bit of a problem with this. Us who are here in relative safety without having to worry about other lockdowns like in Europe an the US think this is a sensible approuch.

 

The protests are often using masks and there is not much COVID in Thailand so the risk is low. IT would be different if we opened up to other countries without quarantine.

my comment was tongue in cheek....no need to reply in such detail !!!

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[baansgr]

10 hours ago, bwpage3 said:

This makes no sense at all, unless of course the quarantine is a financial ploy to put money in someone's pocket.

 

Why close the country off, yet allow 10,000's of protesters face to face?

 

 

 

 

Could say the same about any Western country...lockdowns and curfews yet airports and planes no social distancing....then wonder why there is a problem

[bwpage3]

10 hours ago, robblok said:

Everyone has already its a foolish question that would not have been asked if the OP had used his brain a bit more. He made several wrong assumptions.

 

1 the government does not want the protests (so its not government procedure but quarantine is)

2 There is almost no COVID in Thailand opening up to the US and Europe both places with huge amounts of case you only import it.

 

Its so easy to understand, only those with vested interest have a bit of a problem with this. Us who are here in relative safety without having to worry about other lockdowns like in Europe an the US think this is a sensible approuch.

 

The protests are often using masks and there is not much COVID in Thailand so the risk is low. IT would be different if we opened up to other countries without quarantine.

Has nothing to do with the government wanting protests and everything to do with 10,000's of people packed together.

 

You have no realistic clue how many cases of COVID is in Thailand. Do you honestly believe everything the Thai Government tells you?

 

Masks are not proven to prevent Covid.

 

See my other post. Man from France arrived in Thailand Friday, then tested positive for Covid on Monday.

 

1. How did he get on the plane in France? Did he not have current health and COE?

 

2. How did he NOT test positive upon arrival at the airport in Thailand?

 

3. How many people was he in contact with at the airport and on the way to quarantine?

 

4. How did he test positive for Covid in quarantine?

 

5. Covid usually shows up 7 to 10 days after contact. This means he must have been Covid positive before getting on the flight, yet he passed health inspection and COE was issued.

 

 

 

 

[robblok]

11 hours ago, bwpage3 said:

Has nothing to do with the government wanting protests and everything to do with 10,000's of people packed together.

 

You have no realistic clue how many cases of COVID is in Thailand. Do you honestly believe everything the Thai Government tells you?

 

Masks are not proven to prevent Covid.

 

See my other post. Man from France arrived in Thailand Friday, then tested positive for Covid on Monday.

 

1. How did he get on the plane in France? Did he not have current health and COE?

 

2. How did he NOT test positive upon arrival at the airport in Thailand?

 

3. How many people was he in contact with at the airport and on the way to quarantine?

 

4. How did he test positive for Covid in quarantine?

 

5. Covid usually shows up 7 to 10 days after contact. This means he must have been Covid positive before getting on the flight, yet he passed health inspection and COE was issued.

 

 

 

 

Of course it has but you just don't understand it. That is ok not everyone is equally bright.

 

You are talking about a government mandated quarantine, something a government can control. The protests are out of control. So how can you compare measures that under control of the government with those that are out of control.

 

The amount of COVID is far less in Thailand then it is in Europe and the US. I don't believe its zero but its far lower so people don't want to import covid. You quote a few cases while in Europe and the US it runs wild

 

Keep your eye blinkers on and moan all you want Thailand is doing it right.

[Virt]

On 10/28/2020 at 12:07 AM, bwpage3 said:

This makes no sense at all, unless of course the quarantine is a financial ploy to put money in someone's pocket.

 

Why close the country off, yet allow 10,000's of protesters face to face?

 

 

 

 

 

It's people rights to protest against their governments if they think they do a poor job. Well in most countries at least. 

 

Covid-19 shouldn't put protests on hold when it concerns the future of a country in my opinion, and governments worldwide shouldn't use covid-19 as an excuse to stay in power by taking away peoples rights to protest. 

[bwpage3]

10 hours ago, robblok said:

Of course it has but you just don't understand it. That is ok not everyone is equally bright.

 

You are talking about a government mandated quarantine, something a government can control. The protests are out of control. So how can you compare measures that under control of the government with those that are out of control.

 

The amount of COVID is far less in Thailand then it is in Europe and the US. I don't believe its zero but its far lower so people don't want to import covid. You quote a few cases while in Europe and the US it runs wild

 

Keep your eye blinkers on and moan all you want Thailand is doing it right.

Look where you are before calling yourself bright!

 

The government is hell bent about the spread of Covid on the outside. Yet they have no fear of 10,000's of people being close together, mask or no mask.

 

Also not testing incoming Thai's from Covid rampid locations like the USA.

 

You don't think for a minute some of these folks have figured out a way not to get in quarantine and might be out protesting? Sound very plausible.

 

You also have to ask yourself how people do a Covid test, negative, to get on a flight and arrive in Thailand positive, or test positive in Quarantine? 50,000 baht per person for quarantine is a lot of money for someone's pocket.

 

I sure would NOT trust the governments reporting. If COVID was that low, what exactly is the reason for financially shutting down Thailand to the reported loss of 1.7 trillion baht?

 

If you were bright, you might question these types of things.

[Traubert]

You dont worry your head about Thailand's problems.

 

Worry about Florida instead.

[JAFO]

10 hours ago, Traubert said:

You dont worry your head about Thailand's problems.

 

Worry about Florida instead.

 

Exactly.  He spends a copious amount of time posting and arguing about Thailand that really do not concern him.  He should be worried about Florida and the soaring unemployment along with rampant Covid cases with no end in sight. 

 

 

[Jeffr2]

11 hours ago, bwpage3 said:

Look where you are before calling yourself bright!

 

The government is hell bent about the spread of Covid on the outside. Yet they have no fear of 10,000's of people being close together, mask or no mask.

 

Also not testing incoming Thai's from Covid rampid locations like the USA.

 

You don't think for a minute some of these folks have figured out a way not to get in quarantine and might be out protesting? Sound very plausible.

 

You also have to ask yourself how people do a Covid test, negative, to get on a flight and arrive in Thailand positive, or test positive in Quarantine? 50,000 baht per person for quarantine is a lot of money for someone's pocket.

 

I sure would NOT trust the governments reporting. If COVID was that low, what exactly is the reason for financially shutting down Thailand to the reported loss of 1.7 trillion baht?

 

If you were bright, you might question these types of things.

Everybody gets tested before entering Thailand.  Thais included.  Amazing you don't know this.

 

And no, they're not getting out of quarantine and going to protests.  Wow. 

 

If you were bright, you wouldn't be asking these kinds of things.

[Peter Denis]

57 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said:

Everybody gets tested before entering Thailand.  Thais included.  Amazing you don't know this.

 

And no, they're not getting out of quarantine and going to protests.  Wow. 

 

If you were bright, you wouldn't be asking these kinds of things.

Contrary to farangs that need to show evidence of a negative covid-19 test taken less than 72 hours before boarding, Thai nationals are exempt from that requirement.

Yes, on arrival all passengers will be tested.  And if it turns out that on arrival one of those untested Thai passengers is then tested positive, that would be kind of a nice surprise for all the foreign passengers that have been seated shoulder-to-shoulder during the flight...

[robblok]

12 hours ago, bwpage3 said:

Look where you are before calling yourself bright!

 

The government is hell bent about the spread of Covid on the outside. Yet they have no fear of 10,000's of people being close together, mask or no mask.

 

Also not testing incoming Thai's from Covid rampid locations like the USA.

 

You don't think for a minute some of these folks have figured out a way not to get in quarantine and might be out protesting? Sound very plausible.

 

You also have to ask yourself how people do a Covid test, negative, to get on a flight and arrive in Thailand positive, or test positive in Quarantine? 50,000 baht per person for quarantine is a lot of money for someone's pocket.

 

I sure would NOT trust the governments reporting. If COVID was that low, what exactly is the reason for financially shutting down Thailand to the reported loss of 1.7 trillion baht?

 

If you were bright, you might question these types of things.

You obviously have no clue what is going on. Its ok educate yourself a bit and you might learn something. Thais incoming from the USA are also going into quarantine. Every Thai that comes back goes into quarantine just like foreigners. 

 

Again you don't seem to understand the distinction between a rule (the quarantine) government mandated and protest that the government does not want but can't control. Just because you can't control something does not mean you have to give up control on the other parts that you can control. Also the numbers in Thailand were low.

 

As for people who first do a test and get negative in quarantine, there are two options (the incubation time of the virus and time of the test). Do read up on that you might learn something. The virus has an incubation time, it differs between people. So its perfectly possible to be negative first and positive later. There is also a small chance to get it in quarantine. 

 

I have talked with people who have been through quarantine (have you ?) it was all done pretty professional. I guess you are a bit worried about paying money to enter Thailand. (i can understand then just don't come or leave Thailand then you dont have to pay)

 

Again they shut Thailand down before and now its open and the GDP drop is less then that of the UK. So Thailand is doing well. They only don't open it up to tourists as that means they would import COVID and have to shut down again as you see in many places in Europe.

 

Maybe you should stop being so bias and look at things and engage your brain.

[robblok]

19 minutes ago, Peter Denis said:

Contrary to farangs that need to show evidence of a negative covid-19 test taken less than 72 hours before boarding, Thai nationals are exempt from that requirement.

Yes, on arrival all passengers will be tested.  And if it turns out that on arrival one of those untested Thai passengers is then tested positive, that would be kind of a nice surprise for all the foreign passengers that have been seated shoulder-to-shoulder during the flight...

Yes that is the advantage of being Thai, and a risk you take. But even if someone tests negative it does not mean he or she can't infect anyone. So there is always a risk. But its normal for a country to give perks to their own people and repatriate them faster. 

[Peter Denis]

39 minutes ago, Peter Denis said:

Contrary to farangs that need to show evidence of a negative covid-19 test taken less than 72 hours before boarding, Thai nationals are exempt from that requirement.

Yes, on arrival all passengers will be tested.  And if it turns out that on arrival one of those untested Thai passengers is then tested positive, that would be kind of a nice surprise for all the foreign passengers that have been seated shoulder-to-shoulder during the flight...

@Jeffr2 > I agree that it is a SAD fact... but worth mentioning as it is fully correct and you were obviously not aware of it.

[Peter Denis]

30 minutes ago, robblok said:

You obviously have no clue what is going on. Its ok educate yourself a bit and you might learn something. Thais incoming from the USA are also going into quarantine. Every Thai that comes back goes into quarantine just like foreigners. 

 

Again you don't seem to understand the distinction between a rule (the quarantine) government mandated and protest that the government does not want but can't control. Just because you can't control something does not mean you have to give up control on the other parts that you can control. Also the numbers in Thailand were low.

 

As for people who first do a test and get negative in quarantine, there are two options (the incubation time of the virus and time of the test). Do read up on that you might learn something. The virus has an incubation time, it differs between people. So its perfectly possible to be negative first and positive later. There is also a small chance to get it in quarantine. 

 

I have talked with people who have been through quarantine (have you ?) it was all done pretty professional. I guess you are a bit worried about paying money to enter Thailand. (i can understand then just don't come or leave Thailand then you dont have to pay)

 

Again they shut Thailand down before and now its open and the GDP drop is less then that of the UK. So Thailand is doing well. They only don't open it up to tourists as that means they would import COVID and have to shut down again as you see in many places in Europe.

 

Maybe you should stop being so bias and look at things and engage your brain.

The information you posted is correct, but why the condescending tone?

You also wrote > the distinction between a rule (the quarantine) government mandated and protest that the government does not want but can't control.

Once again correct, but it would only be fair to also mention the mass pro-government and Deleted rallies that did take place by the Yellow Shirt bearers.  And in that case the government does not seem to have the urge to 'control' it, and indeed there is no reason to do so because Thailand is virtually covid-free.  But using the covid-argument to condemn the protests, but allowing other mass-gatherings if they suit you is rather hypocritical.

[Jeffr2]

1 hour ago, Peter Denis said:

@Jeffr2 > I agree that it is a SAD fact... but worth mentioning as it is fully correct and you were obviously not aware of it.

No, I was not aware of it.  I thought everybody had to test before getting on the plane.  But the tests are done at the airport on arrival.  Sure, a passenger could get infected on the flight.  Could happen from one who tested negative but is actually shedding the virus.  It happens.

 

So, great they test at the airport.  14 day quarantine.  About the best that can be done right now.  And right in line with many other country's requirements right now.

[7fish]

On 10/30/2020 at 12:00 AM, Jeffr2 said:

Look where you are before calling yourself bright!

 

The government is hell bent about the spread of Covid on the outside. Yet they have no fear of 10,000's of people being close together, mask or no mask.

for those trying to make sense of this nonsence scenario, listen to this eminent Thai physician: