webfact Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Prayut okays charter change, ending Senate’s power to vote for PM By The Nation Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha gave the green light to amending the Constitution on Wednesday, as Parliament’s two-day special debate on the political crisis wrapped up. Prayut said he agreed with many of the points made by MPs about the crisis, but said the main thing was to support charter amendment. However, Parliament must follow the current Constitution, since it would remain in effect until a new Constitution is established, he added. Charter amendment is one of three core demands being made by anti-establishment protesters. They have also demanded the resignation of Prayut and his government, and reforms to the monarchy. Prayut has insisted he will not resign but said he had no objection to “switching off” the unelected Senate’s power to vote for a prime minister. "I agree to amend the constitution,” said the premier. “As for the issue of senators choosing a prime minister, I don't want to emphasise it. I have no objection to them choosing or not choosing. It's a matter for debate in Parliament,” he said. Source: https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30396931 -- © Copyright The Nation Thailand 2020-10-29 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thaiwrath Posted October 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 28, 2020 56 minutes ago, webfact said: he had no objection to “switching off” the unelected Senate’s power to vote for a prime minister. It should never have been in <deleted> place originally ! Now amend the rest of it too. 12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pegman Posted October 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 28, 2020 A start. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Somtamnication Posted October 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 28, 2020 ""I agree to amend the constitution,” said the premier." Who's running the country, daddy? lol 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RJRS1301 Posted October 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 28, 2020 (edited) What are the administrative and constitutional steps required to alter the constitution ? He could delay the changes for as long as he wants, unless he places the matter as a high priority Seems like offering something with no guarantee of change, but looks like he is listening to the protesters. Edited October 28, 2020 by RJRS1301 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mr mr Posted October 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 28, 2020 all the na sayers can apologize now. a smart and calculated decision that will surely be noticed and accepted by thai people. 2 6 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RichardColeman Posted October 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 28, 2020 3 hours ago, webfact said: “As for the issue of senators choosing a prime minister, I don't want to emphasise it. I have no objection to them choosing or not choosing. It's a matter for debate in Parliament,” he said. So, a junta based parliament is going to debate whether a junta based senate can appoint a junta based PM ? Smoke and mirrors to me. 9 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post colinneil Posted October 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 28, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, webfact said: However, Parliament must follow the current Constitution, Thats a joke, Parliament must follow current constitution, they should have done that 6 years ago, bit late now. Just a case of making up the rules to suit themselves. Edited October 28, 2020 by colinneil 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post yellowboat Posted October 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 28, 2020 These kids are Thailand's future. They are making gains not seen before. Or there is descent in the ranks. Seeing cha cha finally leave office will help Thailand to compete. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rkidlad Posted October 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 28, 2020 Just trying to buy himself more time. He will lie through his teeth and do whatever he has to to keep his position. Protesters, don’t believe a word and keep pushing for his removal (they know this already). Reading more about dissatisfaction in important areas. The very people they have to rely on to execute their plans are beginning to realize that the direction the elite want this country to move towards doesn’t benefit them. Quite the opposite actually. Power to the people. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snawa Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 52 minutes ago, RichardColeman said: So, a junta based parliament is going to debate whether a junta based senate can appoint a junta based PM ? Smoke and mirrors to me. Unelected Senate (one half of Parliament) will vote on whether they will keep voting for PM......I have no objection to them choosing or not choosing. It's a matter for debate in Parliament,” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkidlad Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, snawa said: Unelected Senate (one half of Parliament) will vote on whether they will keep voting for PM......I have no objection to them choosing or not choosing. It's a matter for debate in Parliament,” Half of them are military appointed; therefore, will vote for a military PM. The other half consists of the opposition and ‘coalition’. Coalition meaning they have the numbers. Parliament is a lost cause. Hence protesters on the street. Edited October 28, 2020 by rkidlad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tonray Posted October 29, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 29, 2020 After amending constitution, next step would be to re-instate political parties that have been banned and schedule another election. Let's see how much he really believes in democracy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tropicalevo Posted October 29, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 29, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, webfact said: Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha gave the green light to amending the Constitution When the top dogs were sworn in all those years ago, they neglected to swear the oath to defend the constitution anyway. He doesn't care what the constitution states. Edited October 29, 2020 by Tropicalevo 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtls2005 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 5 hours ago, webfact said: "I agree to amend the constitution,” said the premier. Sheesh. Who died and made this guy queen? "Charter ammendments coming tomorrow" Yes, I pinched that from the sign often seen in bars: "Free Beer Tomorrow". The Senate gig is sweet: huge salary, four paid positions for "family". No work, plenty of time to snooze. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JusticeGB Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 Uncle Tu forgets that any amendment to the charter almost certainly needs approval by a referendum so parts of it can't just be switched on or off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 7 hours ago, webfact said: Prayut has insisted he will not resign but said he had no objection to “switching off” the unelected Senate’s power to vote for a prime minister. A very small carrot, I'll wait for the steak & spuds to follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post holy cow cm Posted October 29, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 29, 2020 8 hours ago, webfact said: Prayut has insisted he will not resign but said he had no objection to “switching off” the unelected Senate’s power to vote for a prime minister. Hog wash. How about completely eliminate the 250 hand picked regime members as this in itself is underhanded and corrupt.. The regime can push any agenda they like on a party that is backing them or make their ideology pushed as they also seem to control the courts and EC. He needs to get out with all his bozos. The more he stays the more the hatred for him and his groups and who they support and protect grows and festers. He and they are creating a potential civil war and a huge divide that will never be repaired between the generations. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwikeith Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 8 hours ago, pegman said: A start. Does this mean getting the guy that wrote the constitution back to re write it, which took a few years last time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khunPer Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 It's at least a small positive step in direction of trying to solve the crisis...???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newatthis Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 9 hours ago, webfact said: Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha gave the green light to amending the Constitution on Wednesday, as Parliament’s two-day special debate on the political crisis wrapped up. I've heard Aussie MP's tell some beauties over the years, but this man just leaves them for dead. How many years between coup and election? How much corruption really cleaned up? How's the healing and reconciliation going? Nah! Nothing's going to change. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJRS1301 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 40 minutes ago, newatthis said: I've heard Aussie MP's tell some beauties over the years, but this man just leaves them for dead. How many years between coup and election? How much corruption really cleaned up? How's the healing and reconciliation going? Nah! Nothing's going to change. Had there been steps (as promised) to cease the corruption, and to have a path towards reconciliation, then the protesters would not be on the streets. I guess having the tanks, water cannons, riot squads ( and submarines) gives him the upper hand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTuner Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 Helps sod all as the senate is a bunch of army puppets. Make it single chamber and free elections, then deal with the actual problem after the parliament has been voted in by the people, for the people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertson468 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 10 hours ago, mr mr said: all the na sayers can apologize now. a smart and calculated decision that will surely be noticed and accepted by thai people. Sorry to sound synical, but WHEN do you think this might happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Grossman Posted October 29, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 29, 2020 4 hours ago, kiwikeith said: Does this mean getting the guy that wrote the constitution back to re write it, which took a few years last time. Oh you mean Meechai? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ronaldo0 Posted October 29, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 29, 2020 It’s like a plot from a Star Wars movie ! He bought a Death Star yet ? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enoon Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 5 hours ago, holy cow cm said: He and they are creating a potential civil war and a huge divide that will never be repaired between the generations. The potential for civil war has existed for many years. But the great departure was the final click in the combination that unlocked the wind. There's no undoing that. The die is cast. There's no going back. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmitch Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 So, let me get this right. Although the article implies Prayut has agreed to the senate losing it's bloc in choosing the PM, firstly Prayut is in no position to agree this and secondly the charter remains unchanged until changes have been agreed both by Parliament, I assume without a senate vote, and then in a referendum. In other words, it isn't going to happen under this Government as they won't vote for the change, meaning the current senate will still be in a position to help choose the PM after the next election, whenever that is, meaning that regardless of the outcome of an election, unless there's an absolute landslide by the current opposition, which will never be allowed by the biased and probably corrupt EC, Thailand is likely to continue to have a military PM. That's Thai democracy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavideol Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 15 hours ago, webfact said: "I agree to amend the constitution,” said the premier. Just Do It.... actions speak louder then words or are you just blowing some hot air.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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