Just now, thaibeachlovers said:

Looking at the results on Politico, it's noteworthy how close many of the results are . Given the pollsters saying how biggly Biden was going to win it's very interesting how they got it so wrong.

 

I have seen posts on here that Trump gonna win the popular vote and the electorate with a landslide.

 

Should i go through your post history???????????

14 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

When you have some actual facts about that get back to us.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/524164-deutsche-bank-seeking-to-offload-three-trump-loans-report

46 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

IMO he never expected to win in 2016 anyway, and he certainly seemed, to me at least, to be enjoying his time in the WH. If he loses this time he might even go for another term in 2024.

I doubt he'll be overly upset to lose and he can go back to playing golf and making deals for money if he wants. Of all the public people in the world, IMO he's the least worried about his "face". I can't see him losing sleep over it.

As for the debt, that's a problem for the accountants, and he could just sell a building or two to pay it off. It's not like he doesn't have assets.

Do you really think that when Trump has no 'presidential immunity' anymore, that all the lawsuits that are pending will be simply shelved and forgotten, and that the system will leave the poor loser to play golf until his next bid in 2024?

1 minute ago, Peter Denis said:

Do you really think that when Trump has no 'presidential immunity' anymore, that all the lawsuits that are pending will be simply shelved and forgotten, and that the system will leave the poor loser to play golf until his next bid in 2024?

Yes.

24 minutes ago, Peter Denis said:

Do you really think that when Trump has no 'presidential immunity' anymore, that all the lawsuits that are pending will be simply shelved and forgotten, and that the system will leave the poor loser to play golf until his next bid in 2024?

45 doesn't. He's worried!

He has openly mentioned leaving the country if he loses.

Nothing wrong with leaving the country as us expats know but fleeing prosecution is another matter.

 

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/11/donald-trump-post-white-house-prosecutions

 

REPORT: TRUMP IS TERRIFIED ABOUT GOING TO PRISON AFTER LOSING THE ELECTION, AS HE SHOULD BE

The president is said to be not only worried about “existing investigations” but new federal probes into matters we don’t even know about yet.

19 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Yes.

Deutsche bank want their money back, I wonder how many other banks (foreign?) feel the same

On 11/4/2020 at 4:11 PM, sucit said:

Why don't you ask yourself why polls have been very accurate for decades and all the sudden they are way off involving two elections with Trump.

 

Go figure that out, and btw it is not "hiding Trump voters", and get back to us with some better informed comments. 

Two reasons, I suppose. A person is embarrassed and will not be truthful or they lie so the results will be squed. 

1 minute ago, earlinclaifornia said:

Two reasons, I suppose. A person is embarrassed and will not be truthful or they lie so the results will be squed. 

Yes, it has been said that many Trump voters are ashamed to admit it openly, it's like many Americans abroad pretending to be Canadian because they are, rightly, ashamed of their president.

3 minutes ago, soalbundy said:

Yes, it has been said that many Trump voters are ashamed to admit it openly, it's like many Americans abroad pretending to be Canadian because they are, rightly, ashamed of their president.

I personally felt a "renewed" being knowing this President quite possibly is gone forever. I also feel if you are too "ashamed" you need to self reflect. 

1 minute ago, earlinclaifornia said:

I personally felt a "renewed" being knowing this President quite possibly is gone forever. I also feel if you are too "ashamed" you need to self reflect. 

I am, by the grace of god, not American, my dog in this fight is because of the harm Trump is doing to the whole world. In the UK we have our own populist idiot, Boris Johnson, commonly known as Bojo which shows how seriously he is taken but he isn't dangerous. Although British I am not a fan of the UK either but the British do have some admirable qualities, they can smell BS from down wind and they resist with humour, someone like Trump wouldn't have had a political life of more than one week. 

1 hour ago, Susco said:

 

I have seen posts on here that Trump gonna win the popular vote and the electorate with a landslide.

 

Should i go through your post history???????????

 

Don't think there are any pollsters posting on here, just peoples personal opinions.

2 minutes ago, PattayaJames said:

 

Don't think there are any pollsters posting on here, just peoples personal opinions.

Yes and they can be embarrassingly wrong, even worse is to admit to supporting someone who would be negatively portrayed in George Orwell's 1984.

"There’s no clear winner yet in the 2020 presidential election, but Democratic nominee Joe Biden has already made history by winning the most votes a presidential candidate has ever received in a U.S. election. Biden sets the record in an election that could very well have the highest voter turnout in 120 years. "

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/joe-biden-record-votes-2020-election_n_5fa3285ec5b660630aedf824?ncid= edlinkusaolp00000029

 

19 minutes ago, Opl said:

"There’s no clear winner yet in the 2020 presidential election, but Democratic nominee Joe Biden has already made history by winning the most votes a presidential candidate has ever received in a U.S. election. Biden sets the record in an election that could very well have the highest voter turnout in 120 years. "

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/joe-biden-record-votes-2020-election_n_5fa3285ec5b660630aedf824?ncid= edlinkusaolp00000029

 

Trump won't like that in fact he will deny it as he did when Clinton won the popular vote as he denied that the turnout at his inauguration was less than that of Obama, it's the little things that get to him if they don't match with his fantasy world. 

23 minutes ago, soalbundy said:

Yes and they can be embarrassingly wrong, even worse is to admit to supporting someone who would be negatively portrayed in George Orwell's 1984.

Well the polls were embarrassingly wrong. Again!

I do not know of anyone embarrassed to support Trump.

As to history, I think ultimately the left,  the establishment and media of this time will be exposed as totally corrupt dishonest and evil.

 

 

 

 

 

 

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

IMO he never expected to win in 2016 anyway, and he certainly seemed, to me at least, to be enjoying his time in the WH. If he loses this time he might even go for another term in 2024.

I doubt he'll be overly upset to lose and he can go back to playing golf and making deals for money if he wants. Of all the public people in the world, IMO he's the least worried about his "face". I can't see him losing sleep over it.

As for the debt, that's a problem for the accountants, and he could just sell a building or two to pay it off. It's not like he doesn't have assets.

Are you talking about Donald Trump? The person you are describing is not the Trump that the rest of us see. Look at the tantrums he is having already.

1 hour ago, PattayaJames said:

Well the polls were embarrassingly wrong. Again!

I do not know of anyone embarrassed to support Trump.

As to history, I think ultimately the left,  the establishment and media of this time will be exposed as totally corrupt dishonest and evil.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The polls weren't wrong, they projected a Biden win, and like it or not. he's on his way to his victory.

 

The ones who were embarrassingly wrong were the TVF members who are now deafening silent, probably because they sit crying in a corner somewhere, who predicted a landslide win for Trump.

 

Of course, you don't know anyone embarrassed to support Trump, because you choose your friends.

 

As for the corruption, only a blind and deaf-mute person would not be aware of the corruption that has happened in the past 4 years.

 

 

10 minutes ago, PattayaJames said:

Well the polls were embarrassingly wrong. Again!

I do not know of anyone embarrassed to support Trump.

As to history, I think ultimately the left,  the establishment and media of this time will be exposed as totally corrupt dishonest and evil.

 

 

 

 

 

 

So you believe that a supporter will tell the pollster the truth then, correct?

 

3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

If he loses this time he might even go for another term in 2024.

 

I don't think convicts are allowed to run for office

33 minutes ago, Susco said:

 

The polls weren't wrong, they projected a Biden win, and like it or not. he's on his way to his victory.

 

The ones who were embarrassingly wrong were the TVF members who are no deafening silent, probably because they sit crying in a corner somewhere, who predicted a landslide win for Trump.

 

Of course, you don't know anyone embarrassed to support Trump, because you choose your friends.

 

As for the corruption, only a blind and deaf-mute person would not be aware of the corruption that has happened in the past 4 years.

 

 

I don't think he is.

 

I'm sure Arizona will go red.

Trumps lead is shrinking in Pennslyvania. Now just 142,000. 

 

13% of the votes there to be counted which is approx 600,000 votes. These are all postal votes, 78% of these have gone to to Biden so far. If that trend continues then Biden will win Penns with a bit of space to spare.

 

5 hours ago, Neeranam said:

At least you, Jingthing and other Biden supporters are admitting it now. Strange how great he was a few days ago. 

I have stated before , and I'm certain many agree , that Bidens task was to beat Trump, job done !

5 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

LOL. From what other posters are saying, even if Trump is no longer president he's going to still be big on TVF world news.

Say what you will about him, he casts a very large shadow.

 

I wonder how CNN will deal with not having to talk about him all day. Might see a big drop in their ratings.

 

"he casts a very large shadow."  Yes, absolutely he does.

 

3 hours ago, Susco said:

 

The polls weren't wrong, they projected a Biden win, and like it or not. he's on his way to his victory.

 

The ones who were embarrassingly wrong were the TVF members who are now deafening silent, probably because they sit crying in a corner somewhere, who predicted a landslide win for Trump.

 

Of course, you don't know anyone embarrassed to support Trump, because you choose your friends.

 

As for the corruption, only a blind and deaf-mute person would not be aware of the corruption that has happened in the past 4 years.

 

 

Yes, lot of the polls were seriously wrong, depending on the region of the country. For polling, wrong means inaccurate. How far off the mark they were. For instance if one pollster predicts an 11 point victory for a candidate and another predicts a 1 point loss for her, but the candidate wins by one, who is the better pollster in this case? Obviously the more accurate one.

3 hours ago, owl sees all said:

I don't think he is.

 

I'm sure Arizona will go red.

And Pennsylvania?

6 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

even if Trump is no longer president he's going to still be big on TVF world news.

 

Yes for the same reasons as that COVID is big on this forum.

 

Maybe the will create a new sub forum for that purpose

3 hours ago, PattayaJames said:

Well the polls were embarrassingly wrong. Again!

I do not know of anyone embarrassed to support Trump.

As to history, I think ultimately the left,  the establishment and media of this time will be exposed as totally corrupt dishonest and evil.

And Jesus is ultimately going to return.

"Ultimately" is one of those flabby words that render a statement unimpeachable because unfalsifiable. 

We already have had a Horowitz investigation, a Huber investigation, and a Bash investigation turn up nothing. Now the true believers are pinning their hopes on the Durham investigation which so far has found one low level lawyer guilty of falsifying a document. I can remember not long ago when certain parties were claiming that there would be a huge number of indictments and convictions of traitorous Deep State criminals resulting from these investigations. You still have high hopes for the Durham investigation?

2 hours ago, Throatwobbler said:

Trumps lead is shrinking in Pennslyvania. Now just 142,000. 

 

13% of the votes there to be counted which is approx 600,000 votes. These are all postal votes, 78% of these have gone to to Biden so far. If that trend continues then Biden will win Penns with a bit of space to spare.

 

Yes, heard the same thing from my brother-in-law in Pennsylvania.  

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3 hours ago, owl sees all said:

I don't think he is.

 

I'm sure Arizona will go red.

And Pennsylvania?

 

To be honest, I would like to know why they called Arizona with such a small margin and only 88% of the votes counted.

 

3 minutes ago, Susco said:

 

To be honest, I would like to know why they called Arizona with such a small margin and only 88% of the votes counted.

 

Something wrong with their algorithm. Each state is individual. Their data may have shown that the remaining areas to count would be more heavily pro-Biden. Who knows?